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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: JJretroTONEGOD on August 21, 2006, 11:24:41 PM
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this is just a vote really to kind of gather your views on fuzz and fuzz pedals only. It's open to dicussion. What fuzz pedals do you currently use and why?
I'm posting this after getting the Keely Fuzz head which is my favourite fuzz pedal.
Gimme your opinions.
from uncle Ben.
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I like listening to it, it sounds pretty good when Page uses it at least.. but when I play with it, I get bored of the sound after about 10 minutes. Then again I havent played with a "proper" fuzz, only my Rat, which doesnt get really fuzzy I guess..
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The great thing about fuzz is that there are SO many different pedals out there with distictive tones... Fuzz Face, Big Muff, Tone Bender, Supafuzz, Shin Ei Duo Fuzz.
When you look deeper there are variants on the circuits over the years too - Germanium-transistor Fuzz face or Silicon-transistor Fuzz Face. They both sound great, but not alike.
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I have a Big Muff and I hate it :D Though its realy not to suitable for the kind of music that i play. However I have heard alot about fuzz pedals being used to get that 'stoner/doom' sound. What kind of fuzz might be good for that?
EDIT: HTH, Like your avatar :D
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I have a Big Muff and I hate it :D Though its realy not to suitable for the kind of music that i play. However I have heard alot about fuzz pedals being used to get that 'stoner/doom' sound. What kind of fuzz might be good for that?
EDIT: HTH, Like your avatar :D
Cheers, Pentagram f'in rule!!! For a stoner/doom tone you (ideally) want less overall fuzz than a stock Big Muff will give you. I've modded Big Muffs so that they have more mids - this really opens them up for a ballsy tone.
The best (stock) Doomy fuzz pedal is the Russian Green Big Muff (imo) set with the volume on full and just enough gain to make things cook.
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^ Is the russian version any differnt circuit-wise from the NY USA version? Yeh Pentagram do F'in rule m8 though im more into the 'Victor Griffen-era', especialy there first LP. Love every song on that disc.
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FUUUUUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ FACTORY
so good you can pick up radio on it :D:D:D:D
even better through an acoustic simulator :twisted:
fuzz factory:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4890
acoustic sim with a fuzz factory kicked in at the end:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4792
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I never really liked fuzz boxes until I tried them with single coils.
Currently using a Frantone 'sweet' and a fuzz factory- both having their own unique tones, but like any effect ita all about finding their sweet spots.
Mothers Milks, Frantone, Chorus, Delay and you can't stop sounding like Steve Hillage- which is nice....
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The EH pedals have wandering specs, both circuit wise and componands.
In the case of the early russian ones I thing they chucked in whatever transistor they had around. Many people use the russian one in preference to the US but they did shop around for a good sounding one in the first place (same as hendrix did for the original fuzz faces).
Look around here for a fuzz sound that you like.
http://www.runoffgroove.com/salvo.html
http://home-wrecker.com/salvo.html
http://www.tonefrenzy.com/audio_demo.html
Rob...
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I use a Fuzz Factory i find it to noisy on the standard setting, problem being i got a laney gh50l basicly a one channel amp and i like the gain turned up. The Fuzz Factory needs to go into a clean amp. I like sum of the crazier sound i can get tho.
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For all your fuzz needs/wants/desires... Follow the link for some British hand made fuzz-topia...
http://www.stompboxes.co.uk
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checkout this pedal I'm making at the minute...
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I have a Big Muff and I hate it :D Though its realy not to suitable for the kind of music that i play. However I have heard alot about fuzz pedals being used to get that 'stoner/doom' sound. What kind of fuzz might be good for that?
Big Muff. Seriously. Particularly the Russian due to it's increased bottom end.
That said, just about any fuzz pedal will work. Electric Wizard uses a Boss FZ-2 (extremely scooped), Fu Manchu was using a Fuzz Face (extremely not scooped), Kyuss/QOTSA changes all the time and trys to keep what he's using a secret (run through a bass cab so the top end is bled off) and Boris uses just about anything through a cranked Orange head, though I've been seeing alot of Muff alot on her pedalboard lately (Russian, Triangle, and NYC).
Myself, I use a Muff. Honestly I don't like a Muff into a clean amp....it's not that interesting sounding IMO. But if you run it into a clean amp that's being pushed for huge overdrive it sounds awesome. Mine's run into an Orange that's permanantly on 10.
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I've been seeing alot of Muff alot on her pedalboard lately (Russian, Triangle, and NYC).
Myself, I use a Muff. Honestly I don't like a Muff into a clean amp....it's not that interesting sounding IMO. But if you run it into a clean amp that's being pushed for huge overdrive it sounds awesome. Mine's run into an Orange that's permanantly on 10.
The muff is a great starting point for fuzz, plus theyre cheap so you can mod the hell out of them without worrying too much (and theres a lot of mods out there)
My home built uses lower gain transistors than stock and run into a little overdriven fender (pretty good through marshalls too) it's the business.
Also certain guitars seem to suit certain guitars, as my the muff I use sounded best with a Tokai firebird and a friends Epi casino. It's also brilliant with my strat (and it does obcene things with the 12 string (obcene in a good way)). But just didn't seem to get along with the Peavey I have (a set of mules should fix that).
Whereas the Danelectro French toast, suits the Wolfgang much better (to my ears.) Perhaps Muffs suit single coil pickups better.
So try them all with a guitar similar to the one you normally use.
Rob...
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I have a Big Muff and I hate it :D Though its realy not to suitable for the kind of music that i play. However I have heard alot about fuzz pedals being used to get that 'stoner/doom' sound. What kind of fuzz might be good for that?
Big Muff. Seriously. Particularly the Russian due to it's increased bottom end.
That said, just about any fuzz pedal will work. Electric Wizard uses a Boss FZ-2 (extremely scooped), Fu Manchu was using a Fuzz Face (extremely not scooped), Kyuss/QOTSA changes all the time and trys to keep what he's using a secret (run through a bass cab so the top end is bled off) and Boris uses just about anything through a cranked Orange head, though I've been seeing alot of Muff alot on her pedalboard lately (Russian, Triangle, and NYC).
Myself, I use a Muff. Honestly I don't like a Muff into a clean amp....it's not that interesting sounding IMO. But if you run it into a clean amp that's being pushed for huge overdrive it sounds awesome. Mine's run into an Orange that's permanantly on 10.
Muff for DOOM?! I always found mine responded very poorly to palm muting and pinch squeals (I kno those arent common techniques for doom metal, but im more into traditional, early Pentagram type stuff). Im actualy considering selling mine because I havent used it for months but for a while I was considering having it modded.
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Muff for DOOM?!
Depends on what kind of tone you're going for. Obviously any fuzz is not going to give you that heavy amp overdrive sound, but you're not going to get a wall of fuzz sound out of an plain old overdriven amp either.
Plus, Pentagram aren't really doom, they're heavy metal....just like Sabbath. Doom has plenty of fuzz going on.....particularly the slower, more ambient and experimental stuff.
Myself, I use a Muff for some out of control wall of fuzz type stuff but most of the time I rely on a dimed Orange.....the two mixed together is awesome, but it's not a sound you can use all the time.....particularly since it doesn't plam mute worth cr@p.
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The best (stock) Doomy fuzz pedal is the Russian Green Big Muff (imo) set with the volume on full and just enough gain to make things cook. :twisted:
Yeah, I've got one of those -- though, alas, mouldering in my parent's garage in the States! It did get a very fat stoner-ish sound with my LP (which, when I was a poor student, I played through the Big Green Muffski and a big ol' Peavey bass amp!), and I sometimes used it with my bass as well. Good stuff.
Heh, it's over 10 years old now -- maybe it's a "vintage collectable" in it's own right! :lol:
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For all your fuzz needs/wants/desires... Follow the link for some British hand made fuzz-topia...
http://www.stompboxes.co.uk
Ah, I want that Ezekiel 25:17 bass pedal. Then I want to notch it up to to the Great Vengeance setting and let 'er fly! :twisted: (Hmm, "Great Vengeance" ain't a bad name for a band ....)
The Sonic Titan looks cool, too ... though I keep mentally adding in the cost of the amps I would need to go with these, the cost of the house and/or soundproof bunker I would need to put the amps in ..... :P
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Muff for DOOM?! I always found mine responded very poorly to palm muting and pinch squeals (I kno those arent common techniques for doom metal, but im more into traditional, early Pentagram type stuff). Im actualy considering selling mine because I havent used it for months but for a while I was considering having it modded.[/quote]
I recommend the fuzz head, because it can get stupidly heavy and saturated, AND you can even control the amount of gain you want! there's an internal gain control. The main point being, with my Keeley Fuzzhead you can play anything and it'll retain all articulation and delicacy in your playing, whilst being extremley heavy (if you want it to be) here's a usefull link for you all http://www.robertkeeley.com/fuzzhead/
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Carl,
There's a Titan with my name on it coming soon, have to record something with it... ;)
Check out the Meathead Deluxe as well. Awesome beast! ;)
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I have a penchant for my home made fuzz ...
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j23/overdrivespider/fOXX%20TM/S5300001.jpg)
http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j23/overdrivespider/fOXX%20TM/?action=view¤t=S5300003.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1
http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j23/overdrivespider/fOXX%20TM/?action=view¤t=S5300002-1.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch2
-Will
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I love the fox tone machine (if your file description is lying I still love the fox tone machine but it's become a very irrevelent statement)
Rob...
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I love the fox tone machine (if your file description is lying I still love the fox tone machine but it's become a very irrevelent statement)
Rob...
Nope you are quite right! Foxx tone machine replica with 100HFE transistors and a 3 way toggle to select between either germanium, sillicon or no clipping diodes! :D
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I thought I didn't like fuzz until I saw this demo of the Skreddy Mayo:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6873804936502540473
Now I want one baaad.
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Ahhh fuzzzzz..... :D
I have a Muff Pi and a Dod Classic Fuzz as the more traditional units. I use the Pi more and get great stoner/sabbath sounds through my marshall with my SG. Then I get anything from great bluesy stuff to angular riffage out of the strat. A very versatile pedal.
I only really used the Dod with the Palm Bay.
I'd quite like to get some Monkey FX (http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/) fuzzes as they're pretty cool. :P
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I thought I didn't like fuzz until I saw this demo of the Skreddy Mayo:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6873804936502540473
Now I want one baaad.
Yeah, the Mayo is on my list of potential pedals, although I love my current fuzz the Catalinbread Teaser Stallion. I'm worried that the Mayo may just be a case of Emperor's New Clothes and the fact I've listened to Smashing Pumpkins all summer...
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for vintage fuzz, you should check this out everyone. These pedals are very nice! http://www.mjmguitarfx.com/mjm_soundsamples.html
click on the London Fuzz (silicon) - A clip, now that's what I call fuzz!
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for vintage fuzz, you should check this out everyone. These pedals are very nice! http://www.mjmguitarfx.com/mjm_soundsamples.html
click on the London Fuzz (silicon) - A clip, now that's what I call fuzz!
Very Hendrix. 8) A little thin at times, though. The germanium version is just a little smoother. I love the name "Foxy Fuzz" though, sounds dead mucky that! :wink:
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for vintage fuzz, you should check this out everyone. These pedals are very nice! http://www.mjmguitarfx.com/mjm_soundsamples.html
click on the London Fuzz (silicon) - A clip, now that's what I call fuzz!
Very Hendrix. 8) A little thin at times, though :wink:
mmmh, I dont know about that? can u explain what u mean by 'thin' maybe it's just me but it's actually one of the thickest fuzz pedals I've ever heard, glad u checked them out anyhow. They're very good pedals and more people need to know about them. I'm gonna go for the 60's vibe pedal once I get my next cash load through ; )
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The lovetone big cheese is the king of fuzz pedals, but mine died many moons ago, possibly never to return. Sadly, they don't make 'em any more either, and the £300+ cost of the last run of the Cheese Source (Big Cheese and Brown Source COMBINED) is beyond my means....
I am, however, getting fuzzy excellence from maxing out my VC-30 and running a cheap behringer "Clean" boost (PB100) into the front end.
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i think that all fuzz pedals sound slightly 'thin' when you drop the volume on the guitar, adds to the character of the fuzz
i use it to get very twangy sounds out of my guitars - works wonders
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Yeah it was a bit thin, eg a lot of top end frequencies and a few missing mids (could be my PC speakers though, now I think about it... :( )
The Foxy sounded the best IMHO. :P Even though it was silicon it did have a germanium sound PDT_022 I would love one of those but I am currently a bit skint :roll:
Hmmm I wonder how I could order without a credit card? They do seem to be US based, wonder if they need a US mains supply?
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^ debit card
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Does the EH English Muffn count as a fuzz? - it gets pretty Muff like with the gain turned up - if so I love fuzz - with my Power Screamer feeding it juice I can get a great early Zepplin sound with my MQ and Mule.
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Hmmm I wonder how I could order without a credit card? They do seem to be US based, wonder if they need a US mains supply?[/quote]
I own the roctavios, and that does not need a U.S power supply, so I doubt any of the other pedals will, they're all very similar, nearly identical in design, just with a differnent sound in each box, armadillo, soft on the inside hard on the outside, or even tortoise like? (it's debatable)
p.s. the rocavios is a beautifull sound, unlike most pedals it's WARM, analogue and has some very strange but gorgeuows tones in it!
haha I'm on the dole lol, no money but great pedals and guitar hehe.
sometimes u have 2 sacrifice everything you've got to get the best equipment ; )
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p.p.s the roctavios is only n-o 404, that's impressive in todays age! when u think how many pedals boss make every day and all the slaves working for them in japan and china.
I'll never use a boss pedal again unless it's keeley modded, I am 'officially' a snob but hey, who cares?