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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Muzzzz on August 25, 2006, 02:51:56 AM

Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Muzzzz on August 25, 2006, 02:51:56 AM: The RG570EX has a floyd rose, which are good until you break a string :x

Personally, I can't stand them - I mean, they stay in tune, but restringing can take hours.

Once the novelty of a whammy bar has worn off, and you stop using it completely (not saying you will, but most people eventually do), you'll still have to put up with restringing those pain-in-the-arse floyd roses.

Though it could be annoying wanting to play Eruption or something and having a guitar without a whammy bar... :? :? :?
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Muzzzz on August 25, 2006, 02:54:35 AM: oops.. that was supposed to be a reply to someone else's topic.

:oops: how embarrasing :oops:

OK, you'd best ignore this topic.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 25, 2006, 02:57:44 AM: i feel like replying anyway, just cos i can :D:D:D:D

hee hee
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Muzzzz on August 25, 2006, 03:14:28 AM: That's the spirit! :wink:
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Searcher on August 25, 2006, 03:24:49 AM: I think we should sticky this thread.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Afghan Dave on August 25, 2006, 03:41:56 AM: I was gonna spend a few hours restringing my floyd but now I've gotten too involved with this thread and the times flown by...

I'll have to put aside another day..

Damn...
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on August 25, 2006, 04:14:13 AM: Huh?!

*Looks at all his OFR-equipped guitars*
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: b0ng0 on August 25, 2006, 08:39:25 AM: It might take hours to restring the first time or two you try, but I can restring mine in about 45 minutes if i'm not watching TV while I do it.

I wouldn't say the whammy bar is a novelty, it's just another tool to use while making music with your guitar. Obviously you have to be into the kind of music that utilises it, but I know I have created some unholy sounds using my bar :twisted: which you couldn't get without a FR.

But I see what you mean. Personally it's probably best just getting a decent liscened one instead of paying through the nasal passageways for one.

I just realised that the original poster meant this as a reply to some other topic :lol:
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on August 25, 2006, 09:47:04 AM: Do it one string at a time and use a stringwinder and you'll be done in under 10 mins
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Sifu Ben on August 25, 2006, 10:02:24 AM: Now that's good advice! I was always warned off using stringwinders on my fixed bridge guitar because it doesn't wind it tight enough (and lets face it, if you go for it you can restring a tune-a-matic in about 6 minutes), but I suppose with a double locking system it's not an issue.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: screamingdaisy on August 25, 2006, 12:47:41 PM: It takes me about 15 minutes to restring a Floyd.....
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Kilby on August 25, 2006, 01:03:59 PM: Even for somebody as inept as me a floyd is ok to string (15 to 20 minutes).

Unless I'm using a different string brand from normal or (even worse) changing gauge, it's horrible then :(

My 12 string is an hour minimum, cos I can't ever seem to get the same brand of strings twice (I'm glad I have never seen a 12 string floyd ;) )

I found changing strings one at a time (rather than removing them all at once) makes things a little easier on the floyd (without doing that on the 12 it takes a whole afternoon to change strings)

rob...
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: dave_mc on August 25, 2006, 01:33:38 PM: Quote from: Muzzzz
oops.. that was supposed to be a reply to someone else's topic.

:oops: how embarrasing :oops:

OK, you'd best ignore this topic.

haha, awesome.

hard luck, man.
:lol:
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 25, 2006, 01:51:45 PM: The RG570EX is actually a Lo-Pro Edge i think.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on August 25, 2006, 02:22:35 PM: You can also wedge something under the back of the Floyd to stop it moving temporarily. Do one string at a time, use a string winder - do it on a clear table with a towel or something soft under the guitar.

Put on a long song that you like on the stereo and get stuck in
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: blue on August 25, 2006, 02:27:07 PM: i got one of those tremol-no things, and it makes changing strings SOOOO much easier! just lock it and it's like changing on a hardtail guitar. release it, fine tune and you're away.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: n_mountain on August 25, 2006, 03:58:10 PM: Quote
Do it one string at a time and use a stringwinder...

Yeah, stringwinders rule !!! :twisted:
I always thought if I would get tendon problems it wouldn't be by playing but by restringing :P but now with my cute blue stringwinder my life is intact again ;)
(oh, you wanted us to ignore this post...) 8) :lol:
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Davey on August 25, 2006, 04:18:23 PM: n00b
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Afghan Dave on August 25, 2006, 10:12:29 PM: Ohh, the Planet Wave stringwinder/cutter changed my life - Genius!!!!
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Muzzzz on August 27, 2006, 06:28:03 AM: wow.. this thread is really popular for one i didn't actually intend to make... :roll:
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Guitarzan on August 27, 2006, 06:56:19 AM: I restrung my first floyd today....

I don't see why its so hard, only took me 15 min

Hey are they saddles prearranged? becasue if they are then I messed them up
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: JamesHealey on August 27, 2006, 09:22:07 AM: 2 Point Fulcrum Trem, LSR Roller Ball Nut, Schaller Locking tuners..

Who needs a floyd??
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: maliciousteve on August 27, 2006, 12:17:12 PM: only takes me about 20 minutes to change strings on a floyd. Actually takes me longer to restring my PRS due to those locking PRS tuners.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Searcher on August 27, 2006, 01:52:20 PM: Quote from: Guitarzan
Hey are they saddles prearranged? becasue if they are then I messed them up

You moved the saddles? That's gonna effects your intonation.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: lp_man on August 27, 2006, 02:35:57 PM: If you don't use it why don't you block it? 8)
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Guitarzan on August 27, 2006, 04:47:46 PM: Quote from: Searcher
Quote from: Guitarzan

Hey are they saddles prearranged? becasue if they are then I messed them up

You moved the saddles? That's gonna effects your intonation.

Basically the whole bridge of my Guitar was coated in dirt and grime. I had to take it apart to get it all clean. I had it in ablut 30 pieces at one point. I "preset" my intonation similar to another of my Guitars, and it was actually almost spot on!

But I do notice some slight height differences in the saddles, that I can feel as well as see. I was just wondering if there was an easier way to tell where they go.

Sorry for the Hijack!
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Searcher on August 27, 2006, 05:50:19 PM: Well, height differences won't effect the intonation as much moving the saddles forwards or backwards will.

There are guides to know roughly how high each saddle should be, dependinng on the guitar's neck radius, which you can find online with a search (I don't have the figures in memory). But the way I set them is just by what feels right, according to the action and curvature of the fretboard.

As far as intonaiton goes, get yourself a tuner and do a search on how to set that, too. It's really not difficult. :)
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Guitarzan on August 27, 2006, 06:40:01 PM: As far as I know the Height on floyds is already pre-set to about 14" radius.

So I'm just concerned that there might be a certain way to have the saddles set, Because the base plate else is flat.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: gingataff on August 28, 2006, 02:22:44 AM: ^
Are the saddle blocks different heights? if so you need the tallest to in the middle, the shortest on the outside and the other two in between. I haven't had an OFR but on an Edge the blocks are the same height and the plate is staggered.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: Guitarzan on August 28, 2006, 02:37:36 AM: Quote from: gingataff
Are the saddle blocks different heights? if so you need the tallest to in the middle, the shortest on the outside and the other two in between.

They look to be slightly different, and the plate isn't staggered. But I don't think that it is an OFR either. the allen bolts that lock the strings are very short. i.e. you have to adjust them in front of the fine tuners.

I was just wondering if there was any way to tell a difference.
Title: floyd rose.. yuk
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on August 30, 2006, 09:36:14 PM: cant be aresed with floyd rose's anymore, I hate them now I've got use to a fixed bridge, I'm a miles better player than I used to be now. It used to take me about 20 minutes to change the strings, I had a squire stagemaster with a floating floyd rose, NEVER EVER take all the strings off! always change them one by one, it's vital ; ) cos when it's a floating trem, the balance needs to be perfect.