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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on August 25, 2006, 09:43:50 PM

Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 25, 2006, 09:43:50 PM
What is their prime function?

I mean what style are they at their best in?
And what style do BKP users who have them use them for?
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 25, 2006, 10:07:08 PM
absolutely NO idea what you are getting at here.

I have them (calib. set) in my Gibson Explorer.
Wanted a good rythm chug with dynamics and a 'defined' tone, ala early Hetfield.
That help any?
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: chrisola on August 25, 2006, 10:10:40 PM
i have a bridge one.

I like the same music as you do Crazy_Joe ;)
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 25, 2006, 10:16:42 PM
Oooo Hetfield tone ay! That's what i'm looking for, but by the sounds of 'Ceramic Warpig' it sounds a bit too powerful to be doing early Hetfield, or am i wrong as usual.
By the way how are cleans on them?

I like where this thread is going, it sounds like i may have found the pickup for me :D

Most people who have them i have heard have Explorer's, which is good for me because i just bought one :P
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on August 25, 2006, 10:18:27 PM
I've noticed that people with warpigs here tend to like mid range, so I'm sure if you turn down the mids you can get a near exact Hetfield tone. But I've always though the Miracle man is better for the Hetfield tone, since he uses EMG 81's and MM's sound similar.
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 25, 2006, 10:22:25 PM
Had looong conversations with Tim on phone about this and he suggested Custom Warpigs.
Course, ALOT depends on your amp, BKP's do not maketh tone alone :).
Anyway, like the early, say MOP, Hetfield tone and this is what I got (through the ENGL, Explorer at 'axe health spa' so not tried through Mesa yet  :twisted: ).
The WP is NOT just a chug/mud pup. I have gotten blues to jazz outta it and of course BRUTALLITY.
I rate it, but have a norm set and Custom set will opt for summit diff. next time.
Have Shure mic now, so fingers crossed, can record and 'finally' post clips when the lazy beeatch gets back from the 'guitar health spa' ROFLMAO.
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 25, 2006, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: OD-Black_Fire
I've noticed that people with warpigs here tend to like mid range, so I'm sure if you turn down the mids you can get a near exact Hetfield tone. But I've always though the Miracle man is better for the Hetfield tone, since he uses EMG 81's and MM's sound similar.


Bit too close to call with Custom (Ceramic) pigs there I reckon. Although MM will prob. be my next set (for the 'pet').
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 25, 2006, 10:28:52 PM
Thanks Dakine, the tone i want is exactly as you described it! The MoP Hetfield era. All i need now is a good amp.

I have to say though i have been working on my downpicking and it is getting closer to Hetfields standards (well not that good but i can downpick all of the song MoP)
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 25, 2006, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
Thanks Dakine, the tone i want is exactly as you described it! The MoP Hetfield era. All i need now is a good amp.

I have to say though i have been working on my downpicking and it is getting closer to Hetfields standards (well not that good but i can downpick all of the song MoP)


Don't buy on my sayso though as (and NOT trying to be judgemental here at all!!!!) you might not get too close with your amp.
I mean, Explorer great, WP's great, your present amp - bit lacking. We ALL know tallica has a very distinct early tone. Just don't want ya thinking I just gave ya MOP in a BKP box :)
Custom Pigs are DEF. great though, and VERY versatile!
Can't wait to get my expl. back to test the Mesa now  :D

and BTW, James upsweeps alot in MOP, sorry :) Kinda trademark, me thinks he just gets cramp but who knows lol.
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 25, 2006, 10:48:41 PM
Yeah i know what your saying, i'm getting a new amp before pickups anyway.

And Hetfield upsweeping surprised me! He always plays it downpicked live though i thought, anyways i'm still going to downpick it because i need to improve my downpicking just a bit more and i think it sounds better downpicked.
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 25, 2006, 10:51:08 PM
LOL, no worries, just ragging on ya.
He does some funky stuff live.
'Cunning Stunts' he does alot of upsweeps , good dvd to watch actually. Actually, when tried you can see the tonal nuances on some of his riffs :)
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 25, 2006, 10:56:42 PM
I was going to pick Cunning Stunts up in a store in Portugal, but it was extremely overpriced there, so i just decided i will get it from Play.com or somewhere when i got home, never did buy it though because i had a guitar to save for, but i've heard that huge Live shite: Binge and Purge is a great box set for their earlier works, which is more what i'm into.
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 25, 2006, 11:34:22 PM
Cunning Stunts was filmed in Fort Worth Texas :) and has much better filming due to 'in the round' stage.
I have both though :)
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 25, 2006, 11:40:16 PM
I can't find the huge 'Live shite' box set anywhere in the UK though,i really want it!
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 25, 2006, 11:41:38 PM
bought new edition in London two weeks ago for £25 I think and cunning DVD in wirgin for a tenner. Darn NTSC!
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 25, 2006, 11:45:22 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0000V6ZQW/ref=pd_ecs_m_h__d_h__a/202-6432934-5848663?ie=UTF8

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0007KVAZM/202-6432934-5848663?v=glance&n=283926&s=dvd&v=glance


hey presto  :D
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Fubar on August 26, 2006, 12:25:53 AM
I really regret selling my Live shite box set nowadays, i've still got the stencil somewhere tho, all my schoolbooks ended up covered in little metallica blokeys* when I got that!  :lol:


*Can't remember what they used to call it now for the life of me.
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 26, 2006, 12:56:56 PM
Quote from: Dakine
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0000V6ZQW/ref=pd_ecs_m_h__d_h__a/202-6432934-5848663?ie=UTF8

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0007KVAZM/202-6432934-5848663?v=glance&n=283926&s=dvd&v=glance


hey presto  :D


Cool, but for some reason that is not in the dvd section it's in popular music, that's probably why i didn't see it!
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 26, 2006, 01:48:40 PM
your welcome  :orcass:

LOL

seriously, I just did a quick search, sheesh, kids today LOL

And it's 3 cd's and 2 dvd's. Therefore cd's win = popular music I guess  :P
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 26, 2006, 02:56:35 PM
lol Quiet you! I might get this if i have money left over from the guitar purchase.
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: DeathEngine on August 27, 2006, 03:05:14 AM
Quote from: OD-Black_Fire
I've noticed that people with warpigs here tend to like mid range, so I'm sure if you turn down the mids you can get a near exact Hetfield tone. But I've always though the Miracle man is better for the Hetfield tone, since he uses EMG 81's and MM's sound similar.


Actually Hetfield uses the EMG 60...
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 27, 2006, 11:40:19 AM
Quote from: DeathEngine
Quote from: OD-Black_Fire
I've noticed that people with warpigs here tend to like mid range, so I'm sure if you turn down the mids you can get a near exact Hetfield tone. But I've always though the Miracle man is better for the Hetfield tone, since he uses EMG 81's and MM's sound similar.


Actually Hetfield uses the EMG 60...


Don't think so, not in this case.
He started by using 81/81 config. Then experimented with 81's and 60's and combos of both. Around the Black Album time he had 81/60 in his axe's (so earlier tone was not just 60's).
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on August 27, 2006, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: Dakine
absolutely NO idea what you are getting at here.

I have them (calib. set) in my Gibson Explorer.
Wanted a good rythm chug with dynamics and a 'defined' tone, ala early Hetfield.
That help any?


Dakine, can you post a ceramic X Regular warpig clip?!
please.
Q:p
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: Dakine on August 27, 2006, 05:53:25 PM
Quote from: WITH FULL DISTORTION
Quote from: Dakine
absolutely NO idea what you are getting at here.

I have them (calib. set) in my Gibson Explorer.
Wanted a good rythm chug with dynamics and a 'defined' tone, ala early Hetfield.
That help any?


Dakine, can you post a ceramic X Regular warpig clip?!
please.
Q:p


Sorry mate, not for while.
My Explorer will be back (having some tweaking done) next week but my Std. Warpig loaded axe is still in Texas :(

Will do what I can as soon as I can though.

Got a Shure Prologue 10L now (courtesy Mr.Boulton) so soon as get phantom power supply will try with my Zoom to record some Explorer/Custom 'pig clips using the ENGL and Mesa.

Trust me, am as anxious to record as you are to hear :)
Title: Ceramic Warpigs
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on August 27, 2006, 08:45:41 PM
hahaha Thank“s Man