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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: LiamH on August 27, 2006, 07:21:52 PM

Title: reverb pedal
Post by: LiamH on August 27, 2006, 07:21:52 PM
I have a laney lc15. Ok nothing spectacular but it does for me. I am reverb-less, can anyone recommend a reverb pedal. I stupidly bought a boss dd-3 hoping I could get away with using it as a reverb as well as a delay. Big mistake,it sounds too artificial when used in a reverby-way. I am thinking of trying the Holy Grail, any other thoughts?
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: hunter on August 27, 2006, 07:31:42 PM
I've got the Room Mate of T-Rex, veery nice, veery expensive :(
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: LiamH on August 27, 2006, 07:39:40 PM
I saw that I am probably not good enought to justify such a lovely bit of kit. I hear it is the best out there.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: hunter on August 27, 2006, 07:52:29 PM
Since when does one have to be a good player to have fun with a great sound? Look at it like this: You buy a holy grail today, tomorrow a boss reverb, the next amp needs the reverb option, then you try a 19" one ... all because you're not happy with the reverb. Got that all behind me and wasted a big deal of money throughout my years, you can save that hassle by getting the best right away :)
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: LiamH on August 27, 2006, 07:58:49 PM
You know I think that is the root of some of my problems: I buy cr@p thinking I am not worth it, problem is I buy a lot of it. Maybe I should be selective, a few good things rather than a lot of mediocre stuff.  Very sage advice.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: willo on August 27, 2006, 08:04:41 PM
Quote from: LiamH
You know I think that is the root of some of my problems: I buy cr@p thinking I am not worth it, problem is I buy a lot of it. Maybe I should be selective, a few good things rather than a lot of mediocre stuff.  Very sage advice.


It's hard in a way. I sometimes think I am sacrificing certain parts of my punk/rock sensibility if I cart around loads of expensive kit, but hey, if it sounds good and I have saved up for it, I've earned it, why not buy it? That's what it's there for, after all...
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: LiamH on August 27, 2006, 08:08:16 PM
Quote from: willo

It's hard in a way. I sometimes think I am sacrificing certain parts of my punk/rock sensibility if I cart around loads of expensive kit, but hey, if it sounds good and I have saved up for it, I've earned it, why not buy it? That's what it's there for, after all...


he he I suppose that means you're a guitarist first and a punk/rocker second. Good choice.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: Skybone on August 28, 2006, 04:56:30 PM
The new Marshall Reflector (RF-1) is a pretty good little reverb pedal, it offers 6 different types of reverb, with loads of range in the controls, all for about £60 RRP (cheaper in the shops though I would have thought). Plus the fact that it uses a "BOSS" barrel type adaptor.

I got one a while ago and had no problems with it, and it sounds really sweet.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: downfader on August 28, 2006, 10:37:54 PM
I quite like the reverbs on the Boss ME8 I have. Theres only three, hall room and something else IIRC, but they are good.

I tend to use rack FX if its been recorded, and use the amp dry. I've use Behringer, Zoom and TC Electronic. The TC is the best I've ever used without a doubt. Cost me close to 500 at the time though.  :lol:
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: Peter Antal on August 29, 2006, 12:07:01 AM
Quote from: LiamH
You know I think that is the root of some of my problems: I buy cr@p thinking I am not worth it, problem is I buy a lot of it. Maybe I should be selective, a few good things rather than a lot of mediocre stuff.  Very sage advice.

I agree, although I'm sure you cannot appreciate the best, if you haven't gone through lots of mediocre gear.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: hunter on August 29, 2006, 05:20:56 AM
Quote from: Peter Antal
I came back, signed up @ the forum and finally bought that damn Mule set! :lol:

And you think you wouldn't have appreciated it two years ago?

Hey re this reverb again, if pedal isn't a must, maybe a Lexicon rack unit - even their cheapest one will most likely be superior to most pedals, and they combine delay and reverb, incl the possibility to tap the tempo via remote FS ...

Costs almost nothing: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lexicon-MPX-100-Dual-Channel-Processor_W0QQitemZ170021881587QQ
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: downfader on August 29, 2006, 04:49:13 PM
And if a rack unit is used these two are superb:

This one is designed for guitar:
http://www.dv247.com/invt/32869/

This one more for studio use (so you may need a DI box to input, and some kind of impetance unit for back into the amp IIRC?)
http://www.dv247.com/invt/8690/ Still this is great for any studio on a budget!
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: hunter on August 29, 2006, 07:30:09 PM
In an amp FX loop no DI boxes will be required.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: downfader on August 29, 2006, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: hunter
In an amp FX loop no DI boxes will be required.


sorry 'bout that, I'm getting forgetful in me old age.  :lol:
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on August 29, 2006, 08:32:16 PM
lol

Line 6 do a reverb pedal called the verballiser, and i'd definitley get that if I was you, because it has reverse pitchshifting reverb that's found on very very expensive gear, aka eventide H3000 rack units, what steve via used on passion and warfare.

This verballiser pedal seems to do pretty much everthing that you'd need, for recording AND live, I own the liqua-flange and it's that good that I'm considering getting more of the tone core pedal range.

the liqua-flange does things I never even imagined flange can do, it's amazing value.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on August 29, 2006, 08:35:56 PM
totally forgot, the absolute HOLY GRAIL for me has to be electro harmonix reverb pedals, because of their analogue warmth! they're expensive but trust me here, they really are the holy grail of reverb pedals. I mean, Radiohead use them for reverb on thier tracks, have u ever noticed how nice the reverb sounds on all thier stuff?!
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: downfader on August 29, 2006, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: JJretroTONEGOD
totally forgot, the absolute HOLY GRAIL for me has to be electro harmonix reverb pedals, because of their analogue warmth! they're expensive but trust me here, they really are the holy grail of reverb pedals. I mean, Radiohead use them for reverb on thier tracks, have u ever noticed how nice the reverb sounds on all thier stuff?!


Holy Grail, great pedal, but you may need a noise gate.  :roll:  I remember when they came out, I tried one in Fret Music and thought it was a bit noisey. I hope they've rectified that since....
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on August 30, 2006, 05:32:51 PM
[/quote]Holy Grail, great pedal, but you may need a noise gate.  :roll:  I remember when they came out, I tried one in Fret Music and thought it was a bit noisey. I hope they've rectified that since....[/quote]

noise is only a problem when you use shite leads and amps, they wont give u the best leads and amps in a little shop, they dont care about quality, they're in it for the money and it pays low.

Now that I use George L leads there is no noise whatsoever on any amp or effects that I've used. Electro harmonix pedals are not noisy at all from my experiences, as long as you use a decent adaptor, aka one that isnt noisy, or a 9v battery. the actual pedal wont make the noise, it's what's connected and how. That's for sure, that's how electonics work! look out for ground looping, a major cause of most hum in the world.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on August 30, 2006, 05:35:41 PM
besides if you use a noise gate with it, you'll sound like phil collins in the 80s only on guitar. Gated reverb sound rubbish on guitars, but ok on snare drums and percussion. dont get a gate, get better leads to stop the noise so you wont even need a gate in the first place. spend your money wisely.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: DeanS on August 30, 2006, 06:20:01 PM
For me it was a toss up between the holy grail and the verbzilla - I chose the verbzilla due to its low noise and extra versatility.
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: downfader on August 30, 2006, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: JJretroTONEGOD
Holy Grail, great pedal, but you may need a noise gate.  :roll:  I remember when they came out, I tried one in Fret Music and thought it was a bit noisey. I hope they've rectified that since....[/quote]

noise is only a problem when you use shitee leads and amps, they wont give u the best leads and amps in a little shop, they dont care about quality, they're in it for the money and it pays low.

Now that I use George L leads there is no noise whatsoever on any amp or effects that I've used. Electro harmonix pedals are not noisy at all from my experiences, as long as you use a decent adaptor, aka one that isnt noisy, or a 9v battery. the actual pedal wont make the noise, it's what's connected and how. That's for sure, that's how electonics work! look out for ground looping, a major cause of most hum in the world.[/quote]

Hey mate!  :D

Been using Van Damme cables for years (top of the line oxygen free that I could afford, cost about 15 quid for 2 meters) and I still get noise from EHM. I'm not the only one who has noticed this, I've read in various guitar mags over the years that they experience the same, and they use much better amps than mine (mines still a great amp - I've shocked a lot of people with it and the sounds I get)

Like I said before though, this was a couple of years back (the reviews as well) so it may all be cleared up by now.  :wink:

I am a massive EHM fan though, I've got to say, and nobody makes chorus like them.  :P
Title: reverb pedal
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on August 30, 2006, 09:27:10 PM
Van Damme are not the most noiseless leads though, that's my point. I'm not exagerating when I say that George L leads are actually noiseless. I've just been around to a mates house today and with his leads and effects his Vox AC30 sounds like a hum monster. As soon as I pluged my guitar in with the George L lead, there was literally no hum and noise whatsoever, which just shows you really that leads really do make a big difference, he still thinks his leads are better but mine are quieter. George L are very expensive but well worth the price, like all the best things in life.

I wouldnt be surprised if there is hum there, another issue is wheather the pedal by ehx is true bypass or not, this can also alter noise levels. It must be in the circuit and the way it was designed perhaps, recently I've got into boutique effects pedals and noise is never an issue anymore, but the downside is how much they cost!