Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: daveirl1 on August 31, 2006, 07:51:48 PM
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I bought an wasabi (danelectro) overdrive pedal recently, but i'm not really into its tone, its very good and all, but i'm looking for something more bluesy to got with my country boy tele, any recommendations?
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I have a Ibanez Tube Screamer TS-9. They are very common, cost about £90 and I really like mine. Stevie Ray Vaughan, used the TS808 which was a predecessor. I think it is very commonly used by modern blues players.
There are some people who say it's not as good as earlier versions, I would not know as I have never really heard them apart from on SRV records.
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Klon Centaur will do what you want.
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I'd suggest something like a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 myself.
Very versatile pedal that lets the natural sound of the guitar shine through (imo at least).
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I'd suggest something like a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 myself.
Very versatile pedal that lets the natural sound of the guitar shine through (imo at least).
I have a Ibanez Tube Screamer TS-9. They are very common, cost about £90 and I really like mine. Stevie Ray Vaughan, used the TS808 which was a predecessor. I think it is very commonly used by modern blues players.
There are some people who say it's not as good as earlier versions, I would not know as I have never really heard them apart from on SRV records.
You can modify an SD-1 into both of those and further. SD-1s are cheap and easily modified to suit what you want.
I <3 SD-1s ;)
Site: http://www.geocities.com/overdrivespider/SD1/sd1.htm
-Will
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Klon Centaur will do what you want.
booyah!
(that's an agreement, by the way. it is a lot of cash though, but it's fricken' awesome.)
EDIT: for cheaper:
i don't think the ts9 is what you want, the ts808 is better for mellower stuff.
the trex alberta is quite nice, as is the black box x-ray.
depends on your budget, obviously.
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Klon Centaur will do what you want.
booyah!
(that's an agreement, by the way. it is a lot of cash though, but it's fricken' awesome.)
EDIT: for cheaper:
i don't think the ts9 is what you want, the ts808 is better for mellower stuff.
the trex alberta is quite nice, as is the black box x-ray.
depends on your budget, obviously.
TS-808s are great but just buy one of the cheaper Ibanez Tube Screamers for around £40 and modify it - we're talking the difference of a couple of resistors and caps here. Trust me, the reissue TS9 and TS808 are not worth the money.
Best deal is on a used TS5 or TS10. You could even get a pre-modded one like this for £20... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ibanez-TS5-modded-to-TS808-spects-brown-mod-39-00_W0QQitemZ190026405333QQihZ009QQcategoryZ64418QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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It is even cheaper to buy an SD-1 and mod it to TS808 specs. It is the same circuit basically.
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I think that the TS-9 is getting a bit of unfair treatment. Henry Garza of the Los Lonely Boys uses a bog standard TS-9 and he has a great tone. saying that he uses a modded fender twin too. I use my TS-9 after my wah and before a 1980's Chandler Tube Driver. I love the tones I get. Maybe other people would think they are poop - they might be. Perhaps the best thing is to try a stack of pedals out and see which suits. My mate has a Wylde Overdrive which he loves but I think sounds too artificial, I think that is based on the SD-1 (?); the proco vintage rat is not to my taste but I have heard a reutz modded version (one capacitor on the pcb is clipped) and it sounds lovely.
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it think i'll mod something then, where could i get parts? the chip etc?
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I get mine from http://www.smallbearelec.com/home.html
Capacitors you will need low voltage poly film:
http://www.smallbearelec.com/Categories.bok?category=Capacitors%2C+Low+Voltage+Poly+Film
Resistors;
http://www.smallbearelec.com/Categories.bok?category=Resistors
As for chips, there are a few choices; http://www.geocities.com/overdrivespider/SD1/opamps.htm but I would recomend the RC4558p:
http://www.smallbearelec.com/Categories.bok
Dont forget to buy a chip holder:
http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=100
Any problems let me know and I'll help you out! :)
-Will
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I highly recommend THIS!
http://www.ts9deluxe.com/index.html
and this!
http://www.robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=14
both are great bluesy/od pedals.
For a more richer, fatter, rock vibe go for this one below!
http://www.robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=13
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+1 to the above! I really like Keeleys SD-1 mod, the only thing I like better is the mod I have in development :twisted: http://www.geocities.com/overdrivespider/SD1/stepfour.htm
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marshall Guv nor the original black one!
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On the MXR Wylde O/D I could hear a metallic sound at the end of some notes, it's almost like a slapback sound. I sometimes get that with my boss delay (not slapback, but a metal chinging). it makes the guitar sound a bit artificial. Anyone know what causes that?
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marshall Guv nor the original black one!
Have to say that pedal is awesome, I have the v2. The only limitation is that I would never use it on anything other than humbuckers as I think personally it sounds better that way. Its more rocky sounding than blues though... and they can really make a speaker shift air :P
On the MXR Wylde O/D I could hear a metallic sound at the end of some notes, it's almost like a slapback sound. I sometimes get that with my boss delay (not slapback, but a metal chinging). it makes the guitar sound a bit artificial. Anyone know what causes that?
Could be a number of things: pickups too close to the strings, harmonics, microphonic feedback on cheap pickups. Single coils will sometimes do that, even on the best of pickups. Someone else might be able to narrow it down a bit more. :wink:
EDIT: sorry, nearly forgot. If anyone has a spare 150 quid the Carl Martin Hot Drive N Boost mk3 is a superb pedal that is bluesy enough. :wink:
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Here's a retraction: I just tried the Wylde OD with my new strat...very nice indeed. At low overdrive level it is as smooth as a buttered fart and nice and warm, rolling the tone off the bridge pickup with half on the strat almost gets into humbucker (well maybe not quite almost but near enough) territory.
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marshall Guv nor the original black one!
i have that, it's brill, but it doesn't keep the guitars natural tone, which is what i want. not bluesy enough.
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Worth checking out the Xotic BB pre-amp- very transparent and has up to 30db of gain!
http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/xotic/effects/bb_preamp/
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TS-808s are great but just buy one of the cheaper Ibanez Tube Screamers for around £40 and modify it - we're talking the difference of a couple of resistors and caps here. Trust me, the reissue TS9 and TS808 are not worth the money.
Best deal is on a used TS5 or TS10. You could even get a pre-modded one like this for £20... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ibanez-TS5-modded-to-TS808-spects-brown-mod-39-00_W0QQitemZ190026405333QQihZ009QQcategoryZ64418QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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to be fair, i was talking about the maxon ones, which are a bit cheaper than the ibby ones... but yeah, you have a point.
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TS-808s are great but just buy one of the cheaper Ibanez Tube Screamers for around £40 and modify it - we're talking the difference of a couple of resistors and caps here. Trust me, the reissue TS9 and TS808 are not worth the money.
Best deal is on a used TS5 or TS10. You could even get a pre-modded one like this for £20... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ibanez-TS5-modded-to-TS808-spects-brown-mod-39-00_W0QQitemZ190026405333QQihZ009QQcategoryZ64418QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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to be fair, i was talking about the maxon ones, which are a bit cheaper than the ibby ones... but yeah, you have a point.
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Yeah, i've heard that maxon are pretty good, and that they actually used to make the ibanez ones (not sure if this is true or not) they look cool anyway.
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There is a new one from ZVEX BOX OF ROCK!
veeery nice indeed
http://media.zvex.com/boxofrock.mov
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NOT a pedal afficiendo but do have a H.B.E. Power Screamer which is like a pedal equiv. of a BKP in quality,sound,design,service.
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There is a new one from ZVEX BOX OF ROCK!
veeery nice indeed
http://media.zvex.com/boxofrock.mov
Wow that does sound good! Even onto the totally clean amp its awesome. Pity there doesnt seem to be anywhere to try out Zvex pedals, or is there?
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There is a new one from ZVEX BOX OF ROCK!
veeery nice indeed
http://media.zvex.com/boxofrock.mov
Wow that does sound good! Even onto the totally clean amp its awesome. Pity there doesnt seem to be anywhere to try out Zvex pedals, or is there?
http://www.zvex.com/dealers.html#England, you'll find a couple of places there, but remember the amp he is using it with is a jcm45 from the 1960s (that belonged to pete townsted). maybe i'll save up a bit of money and buy the bor.
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i have that, it's brill, but it doesn't keep the guitars natural tone, which is what i want. not bluesy enough.
that's exactly why me thinks the Keeley TS9 mod is perfect for you, it's the most natural sounding OD pedal I've ever heard yet! very bluesy, SRV used one, his would've been an original Ibanez TS808. Keeley also do a great true bypass version of this too!
Also I must mention, if you havent already got Bare Knuckle pickups, spend the money on this instead, the best £180 I've ever spent in my entire life! tone, comes before effects, after all the p/ups are the engine of the guitar!
www.robertkeeley.com
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i have that, it's brill, but it doesn't keep the guitars natural tone, which is what i want. not bluesy enough.
that's exactly why me thinks the Keeley TS9 mod is perfect for you, it's the most natural sounding OD pedal I've ever heard yet! very bluesy, SRV used one, his would've been an original Ibanez TS808. Keeley also do a great true bypass version of this too!
Also I must mention, if you havent already got Bare Knuckle pickups, spend the money on this instead, the best £180 I've ever spent in my entire life! tone, comes before effects, after all the p/ups are the engine of the guitar!
www.robertkeeley.com
Already done, i got a pair of country boy pups (i hate the name) but my f*&k they are brilliant!
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Yeah, i've heard that maxon are pretty good, and that they actually used to make the ibanez ones (not sure if this is true or not) they look cool anyway.
yeah, they did.
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the maxon 8080 costs 125 (euro) in the places i've looked which is pretty good, only if i could try it out!
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Try the marshall blues breaker I tried both a TS-9 and the Blues Breaker and bought the marshall.
It's also got a clean boost option.
Rob...