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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on September 03, 2006, 06:56:21 PM

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 03, 2006, 06:56:21 PM

Dumb question, but can you get a normal chorus sound out of a phaser, i'm trying to get a 2 pedals in one kinda thing here.

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: hunter on September 03, 2006, 07:05:23 PM

Only if you buy a pedal that explicitly does Chorus/Flange/Phase.

The biggest difference is that the Phaser normally has only one stage and is voiced for distorted sounds (as its reduced complexity doesn't wash out the drive so much).. Choruses live from the multiple stages (2, 4, 8, ...) that have different delay times and feedback levels and are modulated against each other, more complex and washy, less ideal for driven sounds (unless you want a breaking up sound a la Police).

Maybe if you don't care for subtleties, you maybe don't need different pedals and can buy a combi pedal (e.g. choralflange or even to finish it once and for good: the line 6 modulation modeler)...

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Sifu Ben on September 03, 2006, 07:41:02 PM

Yeah, if you want both you need a modulation pedal.

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Kilby on September 03, 2006, 10:20:42 PM

I know that some of the classic Police chorus sounds where actually done using the EH Electric Mistress flanger (dunno which version as there are several), and I beleive the same is true for Dave Gilmour.

You could view the chorus as being a flanger without any sweep taking place.

Rob...

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Sifu Ben on September 03, 2006, 10:25:51 PM

Get a decent modulation peddle, chorus, phase and flange all together (and any messed up combination you care to create).

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Brow on September 03, 2006, 10:41:49 PM

I thought it was Phasers that were either in 4, 8 or 16 phases?

Chorus is basically a delayed version of what you played and then mixed back in. So is Phase and Flange, but there's differences in Mix/Rate etc which creates the different effects.

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Sifu Ben on September 04, 2006, 09:29:43 AM

http://www.line6.com/products/detail/34/
http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FCatalog%2F01%5FNew%5FProducts%2F14%5FFlanger%5FHoax
http://www.damagecontrolusa.com/gnx.htm

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 04, 2006, 01:19:06 PM

That Damage Control one looks quality!

I saw it before but it's way out of my price range.

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Sifu Ben on September 04, 2006, 01:28:49 PM

I'm giving serious thought to trading in my V-amp pro and getting one.

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Bainzy on September 04, 2006, 01:45:31 PM

MXR Flangers give a wicked chorus sound, but there's no way of getting one out of my MXR Phase 90.

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 04, 2006, 02:59:54 PM

So a flanger is easier to get a chorus sound out of than a phaser?

Title: Can a Phaser make a chorus sound?
Post by: Bainzy on September 04, 2006, 06:11:20 PM

Most definately - I don't even think you can get one out of a phaser.