Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Siadern on September 09, 2006, 10:51:14 PM
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Just took my Warpigs out of my Les Paul and replaced them with a Black Dog bridge and MQ neck, best thing I ever did, they sound awsome. I was going to stick the Warpigs in the drawer till I got something that would suit them better than the Les Paul (always fancied getting an Explorer and thought they'd work well in that).
Anyway, to cut a long story short, I decided to try them in my rather beat up 1988 Ibanez RG550. WOW! What a sound. Much smoother sounding than I expected, and surprising capable of blasting out some seriously cool lead lines as well as some meaty riffs.
I still wouldn't recommend Warpigs to anyone with a Les Paul, but if you've got a guitar made from basswood, they definately get the thumbs up from me.
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the warpig totaly SLAYS in my charvel fusion. though i still dont know 100% if it's poplar or baswood.. dont care realy cos it sounds amazing
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Yeah, my warpigs in a basswood/maple jackson. Its very well ballanced in there eq wise; plenty of lows but not overbearing, crisp highs but not too sharp (I dont think a pig can be, really), rich mids.
Makes a kickass lead sound in it.
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Normally basswood sounds kinda cr@p but it works great with a Warpig. Nice deep metal tone.
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Basswood is toneless, Mahogany FTW!
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Kinda beg to differ,
Petrucci,Vai,Satriani, to mention just 3, ALL use Basswood guitars!
My Petrucci is ANYTHING but dead, and when I get it BKP'd 'Watch Out'! :twisted:
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imo, it's just like any other tone wood.
if it's cheap, it suxxx!! if it's good quality it's pretty damn good.
it's ibanezs' fault that basswood deteriorated into cr@pwood territory, because it grows in VERY large quantities and is therefore ultra cheap. then they make the high end guitars from the good pieces, then glue the rest together and make the entry models. the one/two piece bodies are cheap, soft baswood, and not very resonant.
so there.
my guitar sounded pretty damn good even with the duncan JB, but with the warpig, like said, it's a totaly diferent beast
EVO is alder. the sig JEMs mean absolute shite
satch for me never had amazing tone
and everybody knows petrucci is using ancient chinese oak for body wood LMAO
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Seem to be arguing against basswood when you might have a basswood yourself???
Point is, to others, knock what ya don't own etc. but knock with 'experience', not to follow 'the IN crowd'.
Could'nt care less if it was made of chipboard if it plays well :twisted:
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yea i do lol
if it's sucky basswood it sucks.
and i dont sacrifice tone for playability, i want both.
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My Squier JV is basswood and it has amazing tone.
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I've always thought Warpigs sounded amazing in basswood-I've even had a set in a prototype resin guitar and they were blinding.I personally don't like them in LPs though as I think it all gets a little too much but that's just a personal observation.
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another vote for basswood sounding good (again, if you have a decent slab of it, like davey says)- you can get an excellent shreddy lead tone a la satch with it. i guess the people who don't like it don't dig that 80's shred tone?
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If it's sucky Koa or rare barzillian it sucks.
Point is a good guitar (INC. tone) is what matters IMO, NOT what the kind of tree it came from.
Was simply stating that opinions are best when 'informed' is all.
Sheesh, this board gets VERY heated at times over nothing!
Heck, am SURE Tim could make an MFI plank sound good if he put his time/mind to it with appropriate pups :twisted:
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i think the only one that is heated is you.
i'm just stating what i came across thus far.
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Alright alright! :o
Thanks for bringing this Basswood/Warpig thing up as I would have never of known!
See you did good. 8)
I still bleed for a WarPig and got sidetracked with all the others! Have you seen those Schecters with the ahem, 1940's themed paint jobs? They would do a Warpig a good turn in the wrong hands!
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Davey glad to hear you have your Warpig in your guitar at last! Having fun with it? :twisted:
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Davey, must not be reading your posts right as am confoosed as heck.
Seem to be going round in circles.
I was initially stating that IMO many woods (if not indeed all) can/are fine (if of good standard) and not just 'so and so wood is king and all else is poop' deal (as stated by someone before).
Having confusing day today here , phew. Roll on tomorrow.
As an aside, have played an aluminium (aluminum for my US friends) guitar and was cool (not my taste/tone but very good anyways) and used to have a Status (carbon) bass which was fantastic.
Many materials, wood of course as a rule, are great for instruments. How they are put together and then set-up, now thats another story.
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Davey, how 'thick', (so difficult in words and online) is the Pig in the Chavel? I ask as not gotten to play my SG with pig, just thick bodied (compared to Charvel) Custom Pig in Explorer.
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Why have wood when you can have aircraft aluminium struts? 8)
http://rksguitars.com/new/hollow/poplime.php
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On the basswood subject, I personnaly think this wood is cr@p for guitars. It's no tone wood, too sterile for that. People using basswood guitars do it for a reason, they rely mostly on pickups for tone and basswood is good for that.
My next guitar will be a baritone 7 strings made of basswood. Why? because it'll be tuned ultra low (F/F# territory) and I need something neutral. If I use something like mahogany the bass response would be insane for any kind of distortion and I'm not an EQ freak.
So yes basswood is cr@p as a tone wood, but if I you need neutrality for a "mostly pickups" driven sound it's the way to go.
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As both Dakine and Davy have pointed out (each in their own way) not every piece of basswood is created equal.
From some les pauls people could take the attitude that mahogany is cr@p (others have said that poplar is complete cr@p) which isn't quite the case (even if I do prefer ash) ;)
Rob...
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On the basswood subject, I personnaly think this wood is cr@p for guitars. It's no tone wood, too sterile for that. People using basswood guitars do it for a reason, they rely mostly on pickups for tone and basswood is good for that.
My next guitar will be a baritone 7 strings made of basswood. Why? because it'll be tuned ultra low (F/F# territory) and I need something neutral. If I use something like mahogany the bass response would be insane for any kind of distortion and I'm not an EQ freak.
So yes basswood is cr@p as a tone wood, but if I you need neutrality for a "mostly pickups" driven sound it's the way to go.
Interesting stuff, thanks for that! 8)
I was always thinking that Mahogany with a Warpig for internal organ mashing riffs was the way to go! I've got an ultra low speaker dampening switch on my amp and thought it would be a laugh to give it some with that wood/Pup combo!
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... it'll be tuned ultra low (F/F# territory) ...
Just curious, how did your bass player react when you told him this :wink:
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he plays ultralow F/F# with a 35" scale haha (that bass player is me btw :lol: I'm already tuned to F on my baritone 6 strings)
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does the warpig sound muddy or dark or anything in that rg550?
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does the warpig sound muddy or dark or anything in that rg550?
i'd say it would sound similar to mine, and no. unless you got a real cr@p amp, that would mud things up
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No, not muddy at all, not even the neck pickup.
As for dark, depends what you mean. You can get a great Black Sabbath sound (hence the name), and I'd call that pretty dark :twisted: I certainly wouldn't call them bright sounding.
They'll do smooth 'For the Love of God' type stuff, down and dirty thrash metal, clean up nicely if you want them to, and can even be made to do some raunchy classic rock (though if that's your bag there are better options).
Basically all the power you could ever want plus a bit of extra flexability for your calmer moments :)
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oh, it's definately not bright-bright...
it's got a very smooth, yet pissed off sound to it. i for one wouldnt call it dark though.. but heck, i'm not very good at 'splainin things.. i'd rather play em
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Oh ok i was just asking cuase i currently have a ibanez rg570 with 12-56 guage nickel wound strings tuned to D and i currently have adimarzio tonezone in it and it flabbs out on teh low e string and sounds reallly gross no matter how i seem to fool around with amp settings but i like mean sounding pickups still just wondered how it could sound in my guitar i guess hence the question originally hehe.
Originally i had a seymourduncan dimebucker, but it didnt have enough mid's for my tastes, the duncan custom is what i had next, it was a little better but was too dark, the tonezone was alot better but has problems with low string flab.