Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: fps_dean on September 21, 2006, 08:57:06 AM
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Anyone ever play one of these?
I hear their cleans are pretty good, but how do they do metal?
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Anyone ever play one of these?
I hear their cleans are pretty good, but how do they do metal?
They do a killer overdrive from my limited experience :evil:
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They are great, i am going to get the 212 version as my next amp probably.
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Tried the 112 combo with some metal guitar in a shop, even at low volume I could get some really good death metal tones. No grind core madness but enough for my taste :twisted: It sounds even better when pushed (but the shop owner didn't really liked that :lol: )
A little overdive stomp will get you to extreme territories I think.
The thing is so cheap and versatile I don't understand how those cr@p solid state Marshall still sell :lol:
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depends what you mean by metal. it'll do stuff like maiden and megadeth grand... something mor modern like killswitch engage would be a bit more of a struggle...
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Good for the price.
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Good for the price.
seconded (in addition to what I already wrote). it won't compete with boutique, though.
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Very true
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^ yup, I'm agreeing with you, mark, no need to worry. I'm just used to having to clarify everything. I must be too used to UG... mention something's good, and the next day about 40 new guys are proclaiming that the valveking is better than engl/splawn/whatever.
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How about the more thrash side of metal?
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I must be too used to UG... mention something's good, and the next day about 40 new guys are proclaiming that the valveking is better than engl/splawn/whatever.
:lol: The thing is with that place, is that everyone promotes the gear they own as better than everything else - even if they've never heard of the everything else involved (which they usually haven't). I think the only reasonable reccommendation i got from there was when you told me to buy my Engl :drink:
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^ :drink:
i guess the valveking would do thrash not too bad, most thrash metal isn't too gainy at all... i'm guessing an EQ pedal might persuade it to get a slightly more authentic tone...
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All those low gain comments makes me wonder if I'm not getting old :? When I tried it, it had enough gain for anything I tried when maxed. Maybe it was the low tuning I don't know :?
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^ it had plenty of gain- i just thought that at low volumes adding gain increased the "mud" factor. so yeah, plenty of gain, but a lot of it wasn't really usable, IMO.
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The Peavey Ultra Tube was a better amp (if you can find one second hand) but they have one thing in common; shitety Chinese valves. If you're gonna buy one I'd recommend talking to Derek at Watford Valves about the sound you want and re-tube it straight away. You can always keep the others as emergency replacements.
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^ it had plenty of gain- i just thought that at low volumes adding gain increased the "mud" factor. so yeah, plenty of gain, but a lot of it wasn't really usable, IMO.
That's what Guitar Player said in a review.. the low volume gain was a bit too fizzy, but I can name tons of boutique amps that cost ten times the price and have the same problem.... I mean as long as low volume is considered 2 and not 4 or 5....
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The Peavey Ultra Tube was a better amp (if you can find one second hand) but they have one thing in common; shitety Chinese valves. If you're gonna buy one I'd recommend talking to Derek at Watford Valves about the sound you want and re-tube it straight away. You can always keep the others as emergency replacements.
Some of the chinese preamp tubes have a lot of gain... but some of them are made of plastic too!
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[That's what Guitar Player said in a review.. the low volume gain was a bit too fizzy, but I can name tons of boutique amps that cost ten times the price and have the same problem.... I mean as long as low volume is considered 2 and not 4 or 5....
that may be true, but I can name tons of boutique amps where it's nowhere near as fizzy at low volumes.
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[That's what Guitar Player said in a review.. the low volume gain was a bit too fizzy, but I can name tons of boutique amps that cost ten times the price and have the same problem.... I mean as long as low volume is considered 2 and not 4 or 5....
that may be true, but I can name tons of boutique amps where it's nowhere near as fizzy at low volumes.
I can name some that aren't too fizzy at low volumes too, but there are also those that are much fizzier than your much cheaper Marshalls and Peaveys too, and I should note not much is fizzier than the current line of Marshalls even turned way up....
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yeah, like krank...
I mean, it's all preference. you wouldn't buy a cheapo amp just because boutique amp X is fizzier, when boutique amp Y might be 100 times better...
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yeah, like krank...
I was thinking bogner actually, but there's a lot of them.
But yeah, if you judge how it sounds with the MV low, then you aren't buying for the best overall tone anyway. Some of those amps that sound really good at low volumes wont ever sound much better than that, where some amps that sound too fizzy to use at low volumes sound absolutely killer with the volume cranked.
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my shop's been selling loads of them, i really like them for what they are, a cheap all valve combo.
as for doing metal, the lead channel with a tubescreamer in front of it (or actually a mxr zakk wylde works well) and you can get very usable high gain sounds.
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yeah, like krank...
I was thinking bogner actually, but there's a lot of them.
But yeah, if you judge how it sounds with the MV low, then you aren't buying for the best overall tone anyway. Some of those amps that sound really good at low volumes wont ever sound much better than that, where some amps that sound too fizzy to use at low volumes sound absolutely killer with the volume cranked.
that's true. I still say my engl sounds awesome at all volumes (obviously better up full, but sounds better than most amps I've tried at lower volumes, unless you're comparing it to like a 0.5 watt amp)...
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ENGLs do sound pretty good at lower volumes too... not ideal still, but they slay when you turn them up!
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I tried it once. It was really easy dial in lots of sustain but I thought it sounded kinda sterile in general. It was one of the first tube amps I tried so I was amazed at the time but once the honeymoon period passed it was just ....meh..
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ENGLs do sound pretty good at lower volumes too... not ideal still, but they slay when you turn them up!
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