Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: bhodges5 on September 26, 2006, 04:51:15 PM
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OK, HERES MY DEAL
I'M HAVING A CUSTIM GUITAR MADE BY GIBSON,
BASICLY ITS A FIREBIRD STUDIO MEETS THE FIREBIRD VII, ITS GOING TO HAVE DUAL FULL SIZED HUMBUCKERS. NOW HERES THE COOL PART AFTER YEARS OF PLAYING SEYMOUR DUNCANS I HAVE DECIDED TO PUT BK IN THIS GUITAR, I PLAY MOST HIGH GAIN BLUES ROCK WITH HEAVY TO HARD ROCK EVERY ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE. I PLAY WITH A FULL BAND WITH KEYS AND ALL. I NEED SOMETHING THAT WILL REALLY CUT THROUGH THE MIX. WHAT I WANT IS ALMOST LIKE A SUPER HOTT PAF, OR SOMETHING THAT IS MORE MODERN AND STILL HAS THAT PAF FLAVOR AND FEEL TO IT.
THE BODY AND NECK OF THIS GUITAR WILL BE MAHOGANY AND A ROSEWOOD FINGER BOARD
THANKS FOR ANY SUGESTIONS
DO YOU THINK THE REBELL YELLS MIGHT BE IN THE BALL PARK OF WHAT I WANT?
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would imagine ;
Rebel Yell
Cold Sweat
Mule
They are all in ballpark, some bit more modern edge then others.
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OOPS
BTW, WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'M HAVING A CUSTIM GUITAR MADE BY GIBSON,
Wow, i bet thats set yu back a bit.
Welcome, and yes i think the Rebel Yells might be just what you're looking for 8)
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Yep, welcome!
With all that Mahogany, I'd go Rebel Yells to give it some bite.
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OK, HERES MY DEAL
I'M HAVING A CUSTIM GUITAR MADE BY GIBSON,
BASICLY ITS A FIREBIRD STUDIO MEETS THE FIREBIRD VII, ITS GOING TO HAVE DUAL FULL SIZED HUMBUCKERS. NOW HERES THE COOL PART AFTER YEARS OF PLAYING SEYMOUR DUNCANS I HAVE DECIDED TO PUT BK IN THIS GUITAR, I PLAY MOST HIGH GAIN BLUES ROCK WITH HEAVY TO HARD ROCK EVERY ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE. I PLAY WITH A FULL BAND WITH KEYS AND ALL. I NEED SOMETHING THAT WILL REALLY CUT THROUGH THE MIX. WHAT I WANT IS ALMOST LIKE A SUPER HOTT PAF, OR SOMETHING THAT IS MORE MODERN AND STILL HAS THAT PAF FLAVOR AND FEEL TO IT.
THE BODY AND NECK OF THIS GUITAR WILL BE MAHOGANY AND A ROSEWOOD FINGER BOARD
THANKS FOR ANY SUGESTIONS
DO YOU THINK THE REBELL YELLS MIGHT BE IN THE BALL PARK OF WHAT I WANT?
dude, why you shouting ???
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cos he lives a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way away!
Sheesh :roll:
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Oooooh Firebirds,
I think Dakine got it right with eith the Rebel Yell or even the Mule.
A Missippi queen might make the neck position interesting too.
Rob...
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Would a Rebel Yell in the bridge with a mule in the neck work pretty well together? It's a combination i've been considering for my new les paul...
Pretty versatile 8)
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You know i kinda like that idea, a Rebell Yell in the bridge and a Mule in the neck position, i wonder what that would sound like, lots of tonal opitions i would think
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You know i kinda like that idea, a Rebell Yell in the bridge and a Mule in the neck position, i wonder what that would sound like, lots of tonal opitions i would think
I think this combo would pretty much rule the '80s hard rock. You'd get billy idol, motley crue etc. from the bridge position and guns'n'roses etc. from the neck position. Obviously both of these pickups are far more versatile than this and will cover pretty much any other base very well between them...
I'd say they should balance fine aswell. Well, i think i may have made up my mind :P
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What you need is a Crawler set. It totally does what you described in your post. It's designed to do high gain blues rock, it truly IS a hotrodded PAF.
I used to play in a full band with keys and everything. The Crawlers cut through the mix like nothing else.
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What you need is a Crawler set. It totally does what you described in your post. It's designed to do high gain blues rock, it truly IS a hotrodded PAF. I used to play in a full band with keys and everything. The Crawlers cut through the mix like nothing else.
I'm with Ratrod -- based on the requirements, it sounds like the Crawlers could be just the thing. If not, then the Rebel Yells.
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bhodge5:
Based on my own experience with Crawlers in an all-mahogany Carvin CT3, I'd be a little careful with this choice in all mahog guitar. I've found the combination to be pretty fat. Not that it doesn't have highs, and not that they don't sound sweet, but the lower end dominates. In my combination at least, this would not give you the cut you indicated you wanted. To further qualify my conditions of use, I'm using a Rivera combo that has EL34's in it.
Something like a Crawler or Mule in the neck with something a bit brighter in the bridge (RY?) sounds pretty intriguing, though.
As usual, best to call or email Tim and have a detailed discussion of what you want, what amp you're using, etc.
Brian
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THANKS FOR THE ADVISE, SO MANY OPTIONS
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If you went for a Rebel Yell in the bridge, I would still be tempted to put a Crawler/Abraxas in the neck. I think that would sit pretty well. ('Course, I ain't heard many RY neck samples yet, but they would indeed have to be smokin' to overturn m love affair with the Crawler/Abraxas neck! :))
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If you went for a Rebel Yell in the bridge, I would still be tempted to put a Crawler/Abraxas in the neck.
That's the combo I've got, or will have if I ever get round to installing them. Hopefully this week!
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Ok well i think ive got a few desions to make, but one more questions if i use humbuckers with covers will this really affect there tone and volume. That what ive been told, any insight into this ? \
Thanks for the advice everyone
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Conventional wisdom is that uncovered humbuckers sound somewhat brighter than their covered counterparts, but my understanding is that BKP compensate for this when winding the pickups.
I think you should definitely go for covers - I have a Firebird Studio and it just wouldn't look right with uncovered pickups.
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YEA I THINK COVERS DIFFENTLY MAKE THE LOOK OF THIS GUITAR, I THINK IT MIGHT LOOK KINDA COOL WITH THE LITTLE RAY GUNS ON THE COVERS IF I HAVE REBEL YELLS PUT IN.
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If I recall correctly you can have the rayguns on whatever covers you like, not just the Rebels :P
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dude, why you shouting ???
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Cause he turned his full stack to 10 and can't hear anything now?
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bhodges5, what you want I believe is a Rebel Yell set. I wouldn't personally change the neck pup too. The neck pup in the RY set is wonderful.
I have a Rebel Yell set in my Les Paul, and it's absolutely great. It fits your description (overwound PAF) and style of music perfectly. Their clean tone is great and gained up they do great. I've even got them to do thrash, although they are a tad too low output to get MY amp to the proper distortion level for most thrash without a boost, but I am sure with some higher gain amps (ENGL, Peavey, Mesa), they would work fine for that too.
The Crawler also comes to mind but I would heed BrianG's advice about it if you are not getting a maple top on this Les Paul - mahogany alone is the worst , IMO to find pickups for without sounding too bass heavy or muddy... plus the Rebel Yells seem like a better match... they are brighter and more mid heavy like one would expect from an "overwound PAF." Search the Players forum for "Rebel Yell" and take a listen to all our clips... I did some but only two short ones are revelant IMO because I used a cabinet with some speakers I greatly dislike that wrecked the other clips.
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Hey Thanks for the advice man.