Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on October 01, 2006, 05:09:44 PM
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Heard sound clips of this on Musiciansfriend.com and it sounds amazing!
Rave reviews about it, everyone loves it.
Check the clips out:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-Metal-Muff-with-Top-Boost?sku=153339
Gotta get me one of these!
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^ just add the cost of the metal muff to your amp fund...
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^ just add the cost of the metal muff to your amp fund...
yeah, everyone seems to want to buy everything all the time, and no one buys anything in the end
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haha i didn't say i was getting it.
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They're great pedals but they really need a great amp to work IMVHO. The original muffs are cheaper, and TRex do much better versions of the Metal Muff if you ask me.
Personally I think this is one for EHX collectors :roll:
Keep saving for that amp :wink: BTW I tried the Rivera Chubster the otherday - bloody marvellous little combo for the money! :P drools :P
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I can already afford the amp. I just havn't bought it yet because i'm not completely sure on what to get.
Also this isn't an expensive pedal, i found it on Gak for £55.
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I can already afford the amp. I just havn't bought it yet because i'm not completely sure on what to get.
Also this isn't an expensive pedal, i found it on Gak for £55.
Thats about a tenner less than the local shops here.. :D
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I think this pedal was reviewed in Guitarist magazine recently???
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I think this pedal was reviewed in Guitarist magazine recently???
Was indeed, and if I recollect they said there are better pedals out there but at cost. :D
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haha i didn't say i was getting it.
Gotta get me one of these!
:roll:
:lol:
:drink:
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I can already afford the amp. I just havn't bought it yet because i'm not completely sure on what to get.
Also this isn't an expensive pedal, i found it on Gak for £55.
that's true, it's unlikely the £55 will buy you any meaningful increase in amp quality...
problem is, if you see three or four pedals around that price that you'd like...
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some BKP's would be much better idea :twisted:
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some BKP's would be much better idea :twisted:
+1 :D If you have a decent sounding and guitar and a buy decent amp for metal straight away, why would you need a distortion pedal?! (says the guy looking for an overdrive pedal :lol:)
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walk BEFORE ya can run an all that? ;)
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Yeah but nobody has answered me to say if Ashdown is good for metal, it's the Ashdown or the Randall.
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go searching on youtube and metcafe to see if theres any demo vids of them. I did that with some guitars and fx and its amazing what turns up :D
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I know the Randall will get me some good metal, but i searched youtube and nobody has an Ashdown Fallen Angel lol
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Yeah but nobody has answered me to say if Ashdown is good for metal, it's the Ashdown or the Randall.
the ashdown is good for a very specirfic type of metal- namely, bass-heavy nu-metal.
the randall is ok for metal, but is better at a wider range of metal.
neither are amazing, they're both pretty much budget tube amps, and at low volumes with lots of gain, both can get muddy.
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I wasn't planning on using it at low volumes. And you could say the same about every budget tube amp.
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so what are ya gonna use to practice with at home?
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That Metal Muff sounds way too boxy to me. Nice chunk but it doesn't sound very full.
I think my Tube Factor will kick the cr@p out out of that box.
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so what are ya gonna use to practice with at home?
My Marshall MG.
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If I were you I would get the Krank Distortus Maximus
5 Stars in Total Guitar Magazine :)
Whos it for?
Fans of dimebag, Shadows Fall, Arch Enemy etc; lovers of loud guitar, basically
Information
Origin: USA
Type: Solid State distortion stompbox
Controls: Master Volume, Gain, Bass, Midrange and Treble
Sockets: Guitar input ; output and power adaptor
Additional Features: On/off footswitch , LED status indicator,
Power: Single PP3 9-Volt Battery or 9 Volt DC mains adaptor,
Contact: Sounds Great, 0161 436 4799
Web: www.krankamps.com
Alternatively
Digitech DHH
Hot Head
Retroman Lola
Review Quotes:
"We came to rock. You'll no doubt remember the fun we had with a pair of krank stacks - the Revolution Seris One and Dimebag Krankenstein - not too long ago. Well, the Distortus Maximus took us back to those halcyon days."
"It has the old school rock charm of The Revolution, but whack up the gain and you can get those Dimebag sounds that many other pedals cant deliver."
" We do miss the trouser-flapping bottom end that we got from the Krank 4x12 cabs, but even through our 60-watt combo we managed to put an evil grin on our faces."
"Distortion pedals dont get any better than this"
"This pedal kicks ass"
"Dimebag fans will sleep with it ; others wont be able to sleep without it."
"The Distortous Maximus offers a great range of tones - including vintage rock sounds - but its at its best punishing eardrums."
" As its Gladiator namesake once said, "I am required to kill, so I kill. That is enough." We couldnt have put it better ourselves!"
"For: F*ucking Rocks"
"Against: Two words: Battery Access"
The only downside I can see for it reading the review in terms of against the Metal Muff is the price, which is £140 :? but I think it would be worth it by the sound of things.
I hope this helps someone out because it took me a while to type out :wink:,
RorySRV,
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lol I've heard good things about the Krank Dist. pedal, though it is a bit pricey for my liking!
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I actually thought the topic heading was EVH metal muff (with the other threads going on). Though metal isn't my thing I do like Muffs (snigger).
Personally the 10 minutes I spent with one dissapointed me and agree with Ratrod, and I thought the tube factor (I think it was) somebody else was playing was amazing in comparason.
Rob... (prepares for the comments)
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fwit, I have heard that the Digitech Bad Monkey is a 'cheap surprise' and is very very good for the price and trounces alot of higher priced pedals.
Hell, for the price, if it's no good, ya can always use it as a paperweight or 'cat projectile' ;)
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fwit, I have heard that the Digitech Bad Monkey is a 'cheap surprise' and is very very good for the price and trounces alot of higher priced pedals.
Hell, for the price, if it's no good, ya can always use it as a paperweight or 'cat projectile' ;)
Every time I hear a distortion pedal mentioned it's always the Bad Monkey (i was recomended it for my Blues Jr), Though I have never been sure if it's an digital or analogue pedal (not that it matters too much if it sounds good)
I would use it as a cat suppostory but only if it had sharp edges and is poisionous.
Rob...
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it's a NASTY green color so would be kinda 'in place' in a cats throat hacking up ;) JK'ing
http://www.digitech.com/products/BadMonkey.htm
it's like £30, so not much as have rarely heard anything but great praise for it.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Digitech-Bad-Monkey-Tube-Overdrive-Effects-Pedal_W0QQitemZ330035064286QQihZ014QQcategoryZ22669QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Hell, imagine the fun if it's cr@p or cr@ps out, standing there looking down and screaming 'Bad Monkey, Bad Bad Monkey' ROFLMAO, worth it for the stares alone!
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Hell, imagine the fun if it's cr@p or cr@ps out, standing there looking down and screaming 'Bad Monkey, Bad Bad Monkey' ROFLMAO, worth it for the stares alone!
If that happened to Sam he would spank it
Seriousky though, Theres a few tube amp nuts that recomed it for getting a real dirty sound
Rob...
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Dirty Bad Monkey :lol:
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Yea but assuming you want this pedal for metal hence the topic involving a Electro Harmonix Metal Muff and a Krank Distortous Maximus I dont think the 'Bad Monkey' will do what they do.
It was made to boost your amps tone and guitar signal thus, pushing your amp to distort its clean signal to get that nice natural tube amp overdrive, not for metal etc.
I mean listen to the sound samples...
It it was made for metal it would show some evidence of metal being played on the sound samples. They are titled:
Punchy Drive,
Warm Rhythm,
Lead Boost,
Texas Tone,
Does that sound very metalish to you :P
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Yep it does, pends on your definition of metal I guess.
I personally think too many people use way too much gain thinking 'thats METAL!!!!!!!!!'.
I know what you are saying but it was just a suggestion. It seems a great deal and is touted as a cheap Tubescreamer orig.
For my money, if ya want that ott no Gain no Metal then the new 'Bloody Mary' is a better bet. However, ALL of this relies on what amp is used.
Horses for courses but the B.Monkey I tried made excellent overdrive metal tones with my Custom Warpigged Explorer.
With the amps talked about (in other thread) I think he wants a def. good gain channel and is pondering wether the ones he is looking at can get it. A pedal in front of a dirty (not clean) channel (ala Mr.Wylde) could indeed illicit the required results.
We can only suggest tools, the user has to make em work :P
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A pedal in front of a dirty (not clean) channel (ala Mr.Wylde) could indeed illicit the required results.
Was what I was thinking as so many people where complaining that the MXR wylde pedal wasn't extreme enough.
Damn plug a Rat, mxr blue box or standard muff into the dirty channel and use it to create mayhem.
Into a clean amp you could look at any pedal based on hex inverters as they filth the signal up big time.
Rob...
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Do you reckon a Boss Metal Zone or a Digitech Metal Master put in front of a 'Nu Metal' or 'US High Gain' distortion amp model on a Vox Valvetronix amp would get good enough gain :) :?:
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would'nt know, hav'nt tried one.
Have you tried a Bad Monkey?
Hav'nt tried a Vox valetronix. Have a Roland Microcube (useful for it's battery power) in Texas but thats all have had to do with modelling amps. Although the Boss GT8 kicked ass on all settings through that.
Have however played a Bad Monkey through a Fender and a valve Marshall.
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The Nu Metal and US High Gain amps arent really amps they just refer to tone that could be created by an actual amp.
I would say Nu Metal would probably be a Peavy, but as for the US High gain I have no idea.
Anyway how did the bad monkey sound through the vox and marshall?
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basically like a orig. tube screamer. And yes, an orig. was a/b'd at same time.
Of course the 'highly sought after' orig. was better, but price for price it was kinda irrelevant.
It can/did overdrive nicely on all channels and although was not 'marketed' as a dirty channel gain monster, it does a nice tube screamer job, and as we all know many Metal artists did/do use tube screamers.
I brought it up as a price thing.
Distortion pedals are a HUGE market and it seem's every company sell's 'the best'.
However, if price is a concern, which it often is, then a Bad monkey is not bad at all.
Sure, T-Rex,Z-vex et all make classier pedals but young Joe is not really in a position to pay beacoup for a pedal right now.
I personally prefer my gain to come from my amp (although I do own a HBE Power Screamer) but there are 'hidden gems' out there they do not have 'blood,skulls,spikes' painted on em (enticing the Metal crowdsters) that do a darn good job.
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So you havent had a chance to try a Boss Metal Zone or Digitech Metal Master at all? :?:
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Metal zone (or summit like) is in the GT8.
Its not my cup of tea and hav'nt played it for a looooooooooooooooong time.
Metal master?, sorry, even the name puts me off.
So, to answer your question, no, not really. Would be more inclined to buy a Boss sd-1 myself.
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If I am reading ya right ya might like one of these;
http://www.line6.com/tonecore/uberMetal.html
which can now be bought as a module too.
I did play one in a guitar centrer once, and it was a rather insane thing. In fact cannot help but hear em in a guitar center as every lil bendy person seems to be cranking em to deth.
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LoL
I think you did read me right Dakine!!
I am into Metallica, Pantera, Iron Maiden, Black Label Society, a bit of Anthrax :twisted: , a bit of dragonforce, Vai, Satriani, Malmsteen etc
Not to heavy stuff. Nothing insane like Mayhem, Cradle of Filth, Nine Inch Nails, Arch Enemy etc :wink:
I am guessing your into older metal stuff.
From your picture (which looks like the Death on the Road by Iron Maiden Cover) I would say you like Maiden, a bit of Metallica?, Megadeth etc maybe? Original 70s and 80s thrash maybe?
Would I be reading you right?
RorySRV
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NOT being cheeky but think you are showing ya age (if not in that thread).
The pick/avatar is Judas Priest Painkiller, ala my latest BKP's.
I indeed like most of the mentioned bands along with softer stuff like 'Anouk' and newer like 'Stone Sour' 'Disturbed' 'Tool' 'Mudvayne'.
BTW, if ya don't call Pantera heavy ya need ya ears checked :twisted:
This was a thread by Joe on Metal Muff. What exactly are you looking to create soundwise?
Thing is this, to my knowledge, very few if any of the bands you mention use the kind of pedals you have mentioned. Yes, they have $$$ valve setups (cept Darrell of course) but still.
Are you looking to make a vox valvetronix go INSANE?
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Judging by the bands he mentioned i would say Line 6 Uber Metal, also i saw you mentioned Anthrax, so why no Scott Ian's sig. pedal?
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Judging by the bands he mentioned i would say Line 6 Uber Metal, also i saw you mentioned Anthrax, so why no Scott Ian's sig. pedal?
Try it out, it's the only way you will know.
I know that Sambo had one of those Uber Distortions before he bought the pod xt, so he should be able to shed more info.
Theres 100s of little boxes out there and everybody has a different preference. If it sounds the way you want then it's the right box for you.
Rob...
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NOT being cheeky but think you are showing ya age (if not in that thread).
The pick/avatar is Judas Priest Painkiller, ala my latest BKP's.
I indeed like most of the mentioned bands along with softer stuff like 'Anouk' and newer like 'Stone Sour' 'Disturbed' 'Tool' 'Mudvayne'.
BTW, if ya don't call Pantera heavy ya need ya ears checked :twisted:
This was a thread by Joe on Metal Muff. What exactly are you looking to create soundwise?
Thing is this, to my knowledge, very few if any of the bands you mention use the kind of pedals you have mentioned. Yes, they have $$$ valve setups (cept Darrell of course) but still.
Are you looking to make a vox valvetronix go INSANE?
Well stuff like the sound samples of The Ian Scott Signature Pedal and I would get it but I think the tonal possibilities are a bit to restricting and plus, it costs a bit more.
And yes I wouldnt mind making the Vox go insane although I would probably get a better metal amp such as a Peavy :twisted:
Anywho I would be interested to know what you mean by showing my age :)
So what pedals would you suggest then?
And BTW I cannot deny that Pantera is heavy.
These posts in my terms stemmed from me trying to recommend other pedals and then kinda questioning my own choices :wink:
And I apologise if I have slightly strayed off topic but this happens when I get into a debate.
Me + Debate = Angry People :)
RorySRV,
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Judging by the bands he mentioned i would say Line 6 Uber Metal, also i saw you mentioned Anthrax, so why no Scott Ian's sig. pedal?
Try it out, it's the only way you will know.
I know that Sambo had one of those Uber Distortions before he bought the pod xt, so he should be able to shed more info.
Theres 100s of little boxes out there and everybody has a different preference. If it sounds the way you want then it's the right box for you.
Rob...
I have an Uber Metal by the way, and those wern't recommendations for me they were for the other guy lol
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ok,
if not before am truly bloody lost now.
OK, for whats it's worth, IMO, to feck and back with distortion pedals!
Get an amp with enough distortion and use an overdrive pedal if needed.
Heck, patience guys. An Engl screamer head went for silly money on evilbay tother day! Heck, got my half stack for silly money (may sell it soonish too, if another GAS attack comes to fruition).
Orange make kickass amps and can find em cheap'ish.
By Peavey I take it you mean a XXX or 5150/6505? Not my bag but there ya go.
And age, I thought you may have noticed it's Priest 'Painkiller' sheesh, JK ;)
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Why are Peavy's not your bag?
And if not could you recommend a good, cheap, solidstate amp for playing the kinda of metal I enjoy?
Thanks in advance,
RorySRV,