Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: guitargod1 on October 15, 2006, 06:58:07 PM
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can someone help me with getting the dimebag sound?
what effects does he use on songs like 'walk'
basically what is his set up?
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He used Solid State Randall amps, a Whammy pedal, a Dunlop Cry Baby (i think), Dean & Washburn guitars, that's all i know really.
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Bill Lawrence 500XL bridge, Seymour Duncan 59 Neck
Randall Warhead Amps.. mahogany bodied dean guitars.
switched over to washburn for a bit but imo they were never as good and i don't even think dime was really happy, fact he used his "Dean From Hell" for pretty much every pantera recording even when he was endorsing Washburn.
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I'd say you want a solid state amp with lots of gain, quite a bit of compression and, if you're trying to emulate the rhythm sound he got in the studio a noise gate, I believe that the gating that you hear on Vulgar display was actually added to the signal at the mixing desk rather than in front of the amp. :)
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Bill Lawrence 500XL bridge, Seymour Duncan 59 Neck
Randall Warhead Amps.. mahogany bodied dean guitars.
switched over to washburn for a bit but imo they were never as good and i don't even think dime was really happy, fact he used his "Dean From Hell" for pretty much every pantera recording even when he was endorsing Washburn.
A quick addition I've heard he kept using the Bill Lawrence 500XL after the Duncan Dimebucker was released.
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Went to Washburns after Dean got bought out, returned to Dean when Zelinski returned.
Also used Digitech whammy pedals.
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I think I read that his neck pups were DM not SD but I'm sure they put SDs in the guitars now cos of the dimebucker bridge.
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Theres something very special about the Dimebucker.........
I think Dimebag was the "only" one who cold make it sound WICKED!
R.I.P
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Theres something very special about the Dimebucker.........
I think Dimebag was the "only" one who cold make it sound WICKED!
R.I.P
lol... he never used it. He kept using Bill Lawrence L-500s even after the Dimebucker came out. I'm not sure if he even owned a Dimebucker.
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i'd also just like to add, Dime was $%&#ing mint!.. one of the strongest metal guitarists i've ever heard, im pretty sure any mahogany bodied guitar with a miracle man and a solidstate amp would dime the dime sound ;)
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i'd also just like to add, Dime was #$%!& mint!.. one of the strongest metal guitarists i've ever heard, im pretty sure any mahogany bodied guitar with a miracle man and a solidstate amp would dime the dime sound ;)
It's worth bearing in mind that it's another classic case of "it's mostly in the fingers". Who else could make that godawful tone sound so good? :lol:
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oh yea totally fubar, it's like how many people nail the brown sound.. i mean it's not a hard sound to get imo.. it's just the people can't play like evh thats where it goes wrong.. i mean that "el strada" dude from the van halen tribute band nails van halens playing style..
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Hi 'famous' lightning guitar had Bill Lawrence XL-500 in bridge and different PAF type neck pups. Mostly an SD '59.
Interestingly he did'nt have anything to do with the graphics or XL-500.
Darrell pestered his father for a guitar for along time and eventually his father bought him a Dean ML. That very same day Darrell won a Dean ML (later to become the 'lightning guitar).
Darrell sold the 'won' guitar as he needed money and did'nt want to offend his doting father.
Later he re-encountered the guitar in it's lightning painted/XL-500 glory and after a looooooooong time managed to procure it back :)
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Dime also used an old MXR distortion+ (3-band eq model) and of course those Randalls are essential to the Dime tone. You can pickup an old Randall like the ones he used pretty cheap if you're willing to ship one over from the US.
I'd imagine he used an EQ in his rig somewhere too in order to tune in that crushing low-end.
There are various stories on whether he used the Bill Lawrence L500-XL made by THE Bill Lawrence or the ones made by the guy that owns the brand name 'Bill Lawrence'. They are supposedly very different sounding pickups.
If I were to guess, I'd say they were made by THE Bill Lawrence since it was in his old Dean. The newer guitars 'may' have got the 'other' BL pickups.
:twisted:
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Bill Lawrence 500XL bridge, Seymour Duncan 59 Neck
Randall Warhead Amps.. mahogany bodied dean guitars.
switched over to washburn for a bit but imo they were never as good and i don't even think dime was really happy, fact he used his "Dean From Hell" for pretty much every pantera recording even when he was endorsing Washburn.
Washburn and Randall are part of the same company
I reckon it was a convenient tie in when Dean stopped being the company it once was.
Once Dean Zelinsky came back on board he renewed his endorsement of the Dean brand
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and he switched to kranks, since the deal with washburn was over, so i guess so was the deal with randall..
about the L-500XL. yes it was the original Bill Lawrence one.. not the other screwup
as for the dimebucker, the vice prey of SD says he did use it. probably not in all of his guitars, but in quite a few. i dont know why i shouldnt believe it, since i didnt know darrel personaly, nor have i worked on his guitars, so it's him (dimebag) and his tech, that know exactly what he had in which guitar... the rest is just hearsay and wishfull thinking IMO.
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Darrell went to Krank through a friend.
That is Krank was/is an emerging Texas company which Darrell invested in.
Texan's, big generalisation but true often, are VERY pro. Texas and loyal to friends/family, even if not always best/most pertinent move.
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I want a Krank.
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i AM a crank...
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The other common rumour about the BL pickup is that Dime installed it upside down for a different sound.
He also used a ton of EQ's in his rig, which is why people often find it hard getting his tone with the Warhead.
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He also used a Furman PQ-4 and a MXR Blue six-band EQ. Not sure if they were in the effects loop or not. Check out the gear page at the unofficial Japanese DP site for some more pics and info. http://www.damageplan-jp.com/
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dig in (http://www.deanguitars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6346) :twisted: