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Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: CaffeineJunkie on October 16, 2006, 06:48:18 PM

Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 16, 2006, 06:48:18 PM
it's making a weird buzzing sound when any of the pots are on, but as soon as one of the active pots is changed to 0, the buzzing stops, is it just the wiring, or something else (i didn't wire it up, i got the local shop to do it)

also, my bridge is royally $%&#ed, but i've already sent a message to jonathon about a new one, so that's not really a problem atm, i just felt like ranting about it :evil:



Cheers

James
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: Deadstar on October 17, 2006, 12:18:08 AM
Seems obvious but it sounds like a faulty connection, I'm not a complete expert but I've fixed a few problems similar to that on my own guitar. Take the backplates off and take a picture of the wiring/switches might be easier to figure out.
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 17, 2006, 01:20:00 AM
OK, this isn't the best photo in the world, as it is from my phone, but i hope it helps a bit....
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: sgmypod on October 17, 2006, 11:23:40 AM
whats the white plastic connecter in there for....
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: PhilKing on October 17, 2006, 12:50:47 PM
I guess you have a BK bridge and a Duncan neck from the wiring.  It looks like the white connector goes from the pots to the switch and back.  Not sure about the blue covered wires to the jack.

Also you seem to have way too much wire in there!!

Do you have a multimeter?  if you do check the earth/ground connection on the jack against the back of both pots, you should have zero resistance on it.

Can you move some wires (especially the white connector) and take another picture.  That might let me see something else.
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: sgmypod on October 17, 2006, 01:15:04 PM
how do you test the earth resistance know how to test everything else
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: sgmypod on October 17, 2006, 01:17:07 PM
should I say what do you turn you multimetre to
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 17, 2006, 02:36:40 PM
Quote from: PhilKing
I guess you have a BK bridge and a Duncan neck from the wiring.  It looks like the white connector goes from the pots to the switch and back.  Not sure about the blue covered wires to the jack.


nope

Black Dog and Mississippi Queen

but the bloke who did it isn't the smartest guy in the world, i'll take another pic when i get back from work this evening
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: PhilKing on October 17, 2006, 08:19:54 PM
Looking at it, it looks like he wired the switch strangely, but it could just be the angle.  What I think you should have is this:

pin 1 or 4  red from MQ
pin 2 or 5  wire to vol pot
pin 3 or 6  white from MQ

The black and screen should be soldered to the back of the vol pot.

It looks like the green was cut back at BK, but if all is wired as above and the solder joints are good, then you could try swapping the white for the green.

To check the earth you can basically set any resistance because you want the circuit to register 0 (to show it is grounded correctly).
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 17, 2006, 10:34:52 PM
OK, i've looked through the wiring, and taken some more pictures in the hope that you can easily spot something which is amiss... the switch only has one wire going to it, with three smaller wires coming out of it as in the pic below...

the pots i can't make out what is going on, except that i've been able to track where the big white connector is from, its on the same colour wire as is going to the switch, and connects the four small wires from that and it goes to one of the blue wires going to the jack and red wire going to neck volume

as for the rest i'm completely lost, i'm usually dealing with computer parts where everything can just plug in and it'll work....


Cheers for your help
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: sgmypod on October 17, 2006, 11:47:08 PM
ta phil
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 18, 2006, 12:15:31 AM
Quote from: sgmypod
ta phil


......lost me....
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: PhilKing on October 18, 2006, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: CaffeineJunkie
Quote from: sgmypod
ta phil


......lost me....


He asked about checking the grounding.  I answered at the same time I answered you.

I think that I can see the problem with the MQ, there are 2 ways to wire coil split, one is to short one coil to ground, the other is to drop the live to the coil.  He has wired using  the short to ground.  He has wired the MQ the same way, however this doesn't work with a coil tap, because when you short to ground you are just left with the small number of turns.  if you wire the switch the way I said above and take off any other wires that go to the switch, then I think it will work.

If it doesn't I'll study the pictures a bit more and I might need you to take one of the jack socket's wiring.
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 18, 2006, 12:27:52 PM
i wouldn't worry about it mate, i'm taking it into Feline next saturday anyway, and looking into a new bridge at the same time, but thanks for your help :D


Cheers

James
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: sgmypod on October 18, 2006, 10:16:16 PM
so bridge pickup for sale?
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 18, 2006, 10:21:55 PM
... nope, new bridge, i broke it the other day
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: _tom_ on October 18, 2006, 10:23:35 PM
So how'd you manage that then  :lol:
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 18, 2006, 10:28:15 PM
lol, it was a slightly Pete Townshend moment (i put my back out doing this a couple months back) was jumping on my bed playing guitar - bare with me - and as i finished the song i was playing (think it was won't get fooled again) i jumped off my bed, and played a slightly harder-than-usual A chord, and it snapped the top string, which then took half the bridge with it, and a couple months ago when i screwed up me back, my strap slipped up to my neck, and it kinda screwed it up a touch :?

:D
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: Kilby on October 18, 2006, 11:05:56 PM
Sounds like an insurance job to me ;)
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 18, 2006, 11:07:44 PM
:lol:
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: Elliot on October 19, 2006, 09:26:36 AM
Jumping on your bed - Pete Townshend moment   :P you can buy blow up guitars for that malarky
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on October 26, 2006, 02:14:16 PM
What is your guitar??? maybe it's more to do with that? anyway, get some George L leads and it'll get rid of ground hum forever.
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 26, 2006, 08:24:37 PM
Quote from: JJretroTONEGOD
What is your guitar??? maybe it's more to do with that? anyway, get some George L leads and it'll get rid of ground hum forever.


how can it be more to do with my guitar that the electronics in my guitar?? i had pretty much everything between the strings and the jack changed, and thas when it started humming
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: RorySRV on October 26, 2006, 08:29:59 PM
Isnt it true that Pete Townsend got electricuted by his guitar once??
Title: OK, why is my guitar doing this....
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 26, 2006, 09:19:03 PM
thas a achievement, how the hell do you do that??