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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ratrod on October 26, 2006, 12:52:22 PM

Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Ratrod on October 26, 2006, 12:52:22 PM
I have to say, that Gibbo hot rod '58 looks awesome.

but where did they get the idea to burn the chrome covers?

http://www.gibsoncustom.com/hotrod58/
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: dave_mc on October 26, 2006, 01:10:16 PM
haha pwnt.
 :lol:
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Kilby on October 26, 2006, 01:25:16 PM
no no no, it must have been Gibson who came up with the idea as theyre an american company and own the rights to everything that ever has or ever will exist.

After all it wasn't Swan that invented the lightbulb, the British that invented the computer, and don't forget it was the US who cracked the Enigma cypher too.

They are probably preparing the legal case as we speak.



Rob...
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: dave_mc on October 26, 2006, 01:27:55 PM
"your honor (it's an american judge), even though we're selling guitars, we feel that under the bright stage lights that a bareknuckle covered miracle man with burnt chrome covers could be misconstrued as a Gibson '58 hot rod..."
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: headtheball on October 26, 2006, 06:01:20 PM
"In contest, your honor, said person would also need to be deaf to make such an error"
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: broken cord on October 26, 2006, 06:38:11 PM
Please, please, please, as a Proud American I must say I am a little taken aback by some of the hostility shown here towards the US of A...I mean sure our commander in cheif may be somewhat removed from forign policy, aside from saying they (the bad forigners)may be hiding WoMD, he really thinks he and his right wing agenda know whats best for the world.  :lol: but to pick on poor defensless Gibson for BK's uht uht "Their" burnt 58 PU, common. It's just a simmilarity. I mean they dont sound alike now do they? :roll:  :wink:  :P
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: RorySRV on October 26, 2006, 08:25:01 PM
Yea.

If you look at the burned chrome cover of BKPs and the gibson covers to me they look different...

Does it to anyone else?

RorySRV,
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: _tom_ on October 26, 2006, 08:38:46 PM
Yeah I thought the gibson ones on the pic on that link looked a bit cr@p compared to the BK ones I've seen pics of.
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: sambo on October 26, 2006, 08:50:05 PM
^i quite like em both tbh... just slightly different styling...
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Dakine on October 26, 2006, 09:20:22 PM
Quote from: broken cord
Please, please, please, as a Proud American I must say I am a little taken aback by some of the hostility shown here towards the US of A...I mean sure our commander in cheif may be somewhat removed from forign policy, aside from saying they (the bad forigners)may be hiding WoMD, he really thinks he and his right wing agenda know whats best for the world.  :lol: but to pick on poor defensless Gibson for BK's uht uht "Their" burnt 58 PU, common. It's just a simmilarity. I mean they dont sound alike now do they? :roll:  :wink:  :P


Exactly, and they cannot buy BKP's anyway cos as G W'ya said 'Too many of our imports are coming from overseas' ;)

JK, I lived in Texas for toooooooooo long and am marrying a Texan :)

If only UK immi. get their ass in gear so we can be together again and I can sell my Texas house and buy mo' gear! ;)
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Kilby on October 27, 2006, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: broken cord
Please, please, please, as a Proud American I must say I am a little taken aback by some of the hostility shown here towards the US of A...I mean sure our commander in cheif may be somewhat removed from forign policy, aside from saying they (the bad forigners)may be hiding WoMD, he really thinks he and his right wing agenda know whats best for the world.  :lol: but to pick on poor defensless Gibson for BK's uht uht "Their" burnt 58 PU, common. It's just a simmilarity. I mean they dont sound alike now do they? :roll:  :wink:  :P


I just hope that George dosn't attack the WOMAD Festival next year thinking it's a trade show for WoMD

Nope I'm bitching about the US the patent system that allows companys to claim patents on things which other people have incented. Prior art apparently dosn't count.

Oh yeah and the blatent rewriting of history.

Personlally I find Americans to be niave but nice people, who (on the whole) are a little out of their comfort zone when outside of the US.

However I do dislike certain US companys or particular administrations.

Not a pop at the vast majority of US citizens

Rob...
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Elliot on October 27, 2006, 10:06:01 AM
Aren't most people out of their comfort zone when outside their country? - I certainly am when I get passed the fortress walls of the M25 and leave London for the 1950s time warp that is the rest of England.

I wonder if Gibson will patent the burnt chrome thing in the US - i'm surprised Larry DiMarzio hasn't already done it  :D
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Post by: Kilby on October 27, 2006, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: Elliot
Aren't most people out of their comfort zone when outside their country? - I certainly am when I get passed the fortress walls of the M25 and leave London for the 1950s time warp that is the rest of England.


Hah I contend that it's the area withing the M25 is within the time warm

London is the only place I where even the feckin newsagents closes on Sunday afternoons, as If I'm going to be looking for a Sunday paper in the morning ? Also the place also STILL grinds to a halt on a bank holiday ;)

I'm either equally comfortable (or is that uncomfortable) no matter where I go unless it's a somewhere where there is all out insanity

Rob...
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: carlaz on October 27, 2006, 04:46:15 PM
Heh, I'm actually a dual US/UK citizen, thereby empowering me to bitch viciously about the shortcomings of both my official countries! :roll:
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Bob Johnson on October 27, 2006, 05:11:48 PM
Heh, interesting discussion about us Vs them even if it boils to inside/outside the M25. The thing is that I've just built a double neck Les Paul. The twelve string side has BKPs the six string side has Gibson Burstbuckers: There is absolutely no comparison between the sound of each neck. The twelve (BK) sounds positively orchestral whilst the Gibbo side is nice but that's it; nice.

I don't think Gibson et al are ever going to be a threat to the wonderful hand made UK products we all love and enjoy.
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: carlaz on October 27, 2006, 05:22:40 PM
Quote from: Bob Johnson
The twelve (BK) sounds positively orchestral whilst the Gibbo side is nice but that's it; nice.
I don't think Gibson et al are ever going to be a threat to the wonderful hand made UK products we all love and enjoy.

Yup.  I mean, I like Gibson (generally speaking): I play a Gibbo guitar and will say my Gibbo T-shirt fits better than my BKP one.  ;)  My Gibson pickups were OK, and I stuck with them for years.  But they're not as good as my BKP  pups -- and I'll never get personal advice on what to get from Gibson like I did from Tim!  

Render unto Caesar things that are Caesar's -- but put BKPs in your guitar!  :twisted:
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: snipesace on October 27, 2006, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: Kilby
no no no, it must have been Gibson who came up with the idea as theyre an american company and own the rights to everything that ever has or ever will exist.

After all it wasn't Swan that invented the lightbulb, the British that invented the computer, and don't forget it was the US who cracked the Enigma cypher too.

They are probably preparing the legal case as we speak.



Rob...


I feel I must chime in as on another forum I was looking at there was a picture that in the background said Canada on something. of course the main focus of the picture had nothing to do with it, but the entire forum (that is to say, all the Americans) start out with "canada sucks, always has and always will" etc etc. I have plenty of friends from the states, but it seems that the ignorant ones always get their  voice heard while the intelligent and kind ones are rarely acknowledged. Perhaps that is where my ..somewhat hostile view comes from? Oh, and the whole americans booing the canadian national anthem at all sporting events doesn;t really help :P   as far as the hot rod there though, looks like a nice guitar, but I would take the BK's over the gibson pu's anyday

the funniest by far are the ones who think they won the vietnam war...that always cracks me up. same with the enigma code and all the previously mentioned stuff.
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Bob Johnson on October 27, 2006, 05:28:27 PM
I have a Canadian amp; there isn't an American amp that comes close!
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: snipesace on October 27, 2006, 05:29:29 PM
Quote from: Bob Johnson
I have a Canadian amp; there isn't an American amp that comes close!


really? what make?
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Bob Johnson on October 27, 2006, 05:32:06 PM
It's a Traynor YGL-3. Still got the original Phillips tubes in there as well.
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: carlaz on October 27, 2006, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: snipesace
I have plenty of friends from the states, but it seems that the ignorant ones always get their  voice heard while the intelligent and kind ones are rarely acknowledged.

Typical of most places, really -- it's just that, thanks to prominence of the US in media and communications (and a relatively large populations), it's easier to hear American oafs than oafs from other countries. :?

Quote from: snipesace
that always cracks me up. same with the enigma code and all the previously mentioned stuff.

One of the difficulties the UK faces is that they have the habit of inventing clever things (light bulbs, computers, jet engines) but the fail to commercialize them!  I think all the product development chaps must have taken off overseas in the days of the Empire, or got killed in the Somme or something ....

Ah well, at least we've got BKPs! Gibson may have applied for the patent, but Tim and Co. do them better! :)
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Bob Johnson on October 27, 2006, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: carlaz

Render unto Caesar things that are Caesar's -- but put BKPs in your guitar!  :twisted:


I really like that sign off Carlaz; made me smile. How about --but put BKPs in your Legra guitar  :wink:
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Kilby on October 27, 2006, 06:48:52 PM
The majority was said in mischief, but I can't help remembering the Gibson Vs PRS nonsense regarding the single cut :(

So personally I wouldn't be amazed if a cease & decist arrived through the post some morning.

Only the UK could launch their first satellite on a Friday and cancel the project on the Monday (because they could see no financial benefit of launching satellites). Or selling the company Inmos (builders of the Transputer family of massively parallel processors) to the French who then closed it (saved the UK goverment the bother).

Only the UK can truely snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

Rob... (the paranoid)
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Bob Johnson on October 28, 2006, 12:24:59 AM
It's been worth a few laughs and our American friends have probably had more schtick than they deserve but the truth of the matter is that there's no way on earth anyone can patent or protect such a well observed and published phenomena as the oxide colours you get by blowing a torch over a chrome finish. In the sixties (here we go; old git warning!) the thing to do was to get the best colour distribution you could on your Triumph exhaust pipes by alternately thrashing it and then letting it cool down. Same game really.
Title: Gibson steals BKP pickup options?
Post by: Ratrod on October 28, 2006, 11:10:03 AM
Thrashing a Triumph to color the pipes is alot more fun than heating it with a torch.  :D