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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: MDV on October 29, 2006, 04:47:55 PM

Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: MDV on October 29, 2006, 04:47:55 PM
Yeah, its come round again.

Currently I'm using an engl screamer combo and a JJ'd TSL602.

The screamer is a little too open and not thick or dark voiced enough (I dont like a very dark voicing, but darker would be nice) and the marshal doesnt have enough low end kick or clarity in the high end.

The two together is amazing, but not practical. I cant rely on that.

So I want a 2x12 to begin with [EDIT: 2x12 CAB to run the screamer thrugh, just to be clear]. I'm open to recommendations there: please suggest closed back 2x12s! Especially to go with the screamer (the overall winner of the two, rather easily).

Then, if that doesnt sort it (and with my EQ I have a sneaky feeling it will do the trick) its amp hunting time.

I would like to know as many dealerships as possible for:

Engl: I know:
Billy bowmans, c--kermouth (where I got mine)
Sounds Great, manchester
Academy of sound (now sound control): was in manchester: are there any more?

Diezel: Blackmanchine guitars

Framus: ?

Bogner: ?

Genz Benz: ?

Any you think I missed and where to find them would be much appreciated.
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: maliciousteve on October 29, 2006, 04:57:50 PM
Framus - www.gak.co.uk
Bogner - www.soundsgreatmusic.com
Title: Re: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: screamingdaisy on October 29, 2006, 05:00:01 PM
Quote from: MDV

The screamer is a little too open and not thick or dark voiced enough (I dont like a very dark voicing, but darker would be nice) and the marshal doesnt have enough low end kick or clarity in the high end.


Orange Rocker 50 (2x12 combo)
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: MDV on October 29, 2006, 05:02:07 PM
Cheers guys.

any more?

I'd love a Diezel dealer closer to cumbria than london...*hint hint*
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: hunter on October 29, 2006, 05:15:43 PM
What about the new Marshalls?

If you go try Bogner, do try the Shiva, and not just the Ueberschall or the XTC, the Shiva is kinda hot rodded Marshall with an awesome clean channel that loves pedals. Actually with this amp and a few pedals  you're sorted for a very long time, if you like mids. If scooped is your thing, try the Ueber...
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: Dakine on October 29, 2006, 05:25:56 PM
Chandler does nice stuff

Masons do too but in Exeter.

Only one Diezel importer and he is in London (really nice guy BTW ;)).
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: dave_mc on October 29, 2006, 05:27:47 PM
http://www.sutherlandtrading.com/genzbenz.asp

needless to say, the link to the UK dealers doesn't work. It used to, before they "improved" the website. And they had said site down for about 4 months "improving" it. EDIT: woot, found a link that worked! http://www.sutherlandtrading.com/genzbenz_dealers.asp

I would seriously consider the genz benz g-flex 2x12 cab as well- I haven't tried it, but it's meant to be a seriously full-sounding 2x12.

if that doesn't do it, the el diablo combo is nice- but you need to tweak it quite a bit or it can be quite dark sounding- it's a bit like a mesa in that respect- if you aren't careful, you can dial in a cr@p tone, but you can also dial in a good one too, if you're patient.

The oxford guitar gallery had some diezel last time I was there (the vh4 to be precise), but I don't think it's a dealer- other than that, check out the diezel website for a link to the UK distributor...

matamp make custom cabs with your own choice of speaker- i guess that's worth a look too.
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: HTH AMPS on October 29, 2006, 07:10:22 PM
I've tried a Diezel at Blackmachine - it's basically his bedroom, don't expect a showroom.  He's a top guy though a builds awesome guitars that - worth the trip just for his guitars.

Guitar Guitar in Newcastle are stocking Bogner amps and have an Uberschall in stock - I think you will LOVE that amp!!!

Lastly, it's worth your while to try out some Randall solid state gear - you may be pleasantly surprised (EQ in the loop is required to tune in your tone).

 :twisted:
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: Dakine on October 29, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
Blackmachine is not where Diezel is any longer (certainly not in a bedroom anyway).

The New Randall's have EQ's in the head itself (V2 etc.).
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: dave_mc on October 29, 2006, 09:35:36 PM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
I've tried a Diezel at Blackmachine - it's basically his bedroom, don't expect a showroom.  He's a top guy though a builds awesome guitars that - worth the trip just for his guitars.

Guitar Guitar in Newcastle are stocking Bogner amps and have an Uberschall in stock - I think you will LOVE that amp!!!

Lastly, it's worth your while to try out some Randall solid state gear - you may be pleasantly surprised (EQ in the loop is required to tune in your tone).

 :twisted:


are you sure some guy didn't just try to pick you up in a bar, and when you said you played guitar, used having a diezel as an excuse to get you up there?  :lol:

and that sucks about newcastle. I was there about a year and a half ago, there wasn't even a guitar guitar there then. :(
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: sambo on October 29, 2006, 09:59:57 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
I've tried a Diezel at Blackmachine - it's basically his bedroom, don't expect a showroom.  He's a top guy though a builds awesome guitars that - worth the trip just for his guitars.

Guitar Guitar in Newcastle are stocking Bogner amps and have an Uberschall in stock - I think you will LOVE that amp!!!

Lastly, it's worth your while to try out some Randall solid state gear - you may be pleasantly surprised (EQ in the loop is required to tune in your tone).

 :twisted:


are you sure some guy didn't just try to pick you up in a bar, and when you said you played guitar, used having a diezel as an excuse to get you up there?  :lol:

 


yer, and are you sure those long 'wooden' objects were guitars man....  :?
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: fps_dean on October 29, 2006, 10:12:24 PM
Hmmm..... tough one.... 5881s in the Marshall? Oh wait, it's a JCM 2000... yeah sell it for a Splawn or older Marshall or something down those lines ;)
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: HTH AMPS on October 29, 2006, 10:40:12 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
I've tried a Diezel at Blackmachine - it's basically his bedroom, don't expect a showroom.  He's a top guy though a builds awesome guitars that - worth the trip just for his guitars.

Guitar Guitar in Newcastle are stocking Bogner amps and have an Uberschall in stock - I think you will LOVE that amp!!!

Lastly, it's worth your while to try out some Randall solid state gear - you may be pleasantly surprised (EQ in the loop is required to tune in your tone).

 :twisted:


are you sure some guy didn't just try to pick you up in a bar, and when you said you played guitar, used having a diezel as an excuse to get you up there?  :lol:



what makes you think he needed an excuse  :wink:  :lol:
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: DeanS on October 30, 2006, 08:52:59 AM
From the tone your'e describing it'd be worth demoing a Cornford MK50....
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: dave_mc on October 30, 2006, 12:22:29 PM
Quote from: MDV
Billy bowmans, c--kermouth (where I got mine)


someone had to bring it up, I suppose. Is that really the name of a place? :lol:

Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL

what makes you think he needed an excuse  :wink:  :lol:


:lol:

Quote from: DeanS
From the tone your'e describing it'd be worth demoing a Cornford MK50....


yeah, cornfords are nice- I don't know if they're metal enough, though (though I admit I haven't tried that exact model, maybe it's more metal).

I guess a brunetti xl-revo is worth a look too, mark, if you can find somewhere to try them. I tried one recently, it was pretty nice.
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: DeanS on October 30, 2006, 02:15:36 PM
The MK50 is very versatile, however if metal is you're thing then look at the Matamp LX from the Hardcore series.
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: MDV on October 30, 2006, 06:58:22 PM
Thanks for the help guys.

However I've changed my plans.

I'm rather likely to order an invader in the next couple of/few months.

Whats the best value 4x12? Prefferably with V30s in.
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 30, 2006, 08:38:44 PM
Get a Koch! www.koch-amps.com
Title: OK folks, its amp changing time
Post by: dave_mc on October 30, 2006, 08:45:49 PM
the laney tt cab is kickass for the price, if you shop around you can get it for just over £300.

you do play mostly metal, though, maybe it'd be worth it in your case to get a more over-sized, metal-orientated cab. they're liable to be twice as much, at least, though.