Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Dakine on November 01, 2006, 03:38:52 PM
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Anyone ever deal with this company?
Thomann cyberstore.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/index.html
Specificly with a higher purchase and not just say a cable.
Am thinking of an amp from them and when dropping that much cah wanna see any comments.
They ship for free or £7 which seem's amazing and give a 3 year warranty (not that it's too important as between shipping back/forth local tech. may be better in that sit.).
Anyway,
Thanks,
Nick
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Very professional, I buy lots of stuff there. Never had an issue, they are professional and responsive.
Also I recommend, if you're a mac user, buy your macs there, as the 3 years apply to those too, and with apple this costs a fortune.
Don't forget the 30 days money back which is cool.
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thanks Hunter, good to know.
This PC nearly shitee the bed yesterday, groan.
But am actually gonna buy (one way or another) new Amp Head.
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But am actually gonna buy (one way or another) new Amp Head.
Diezel? Engl? Koch? ...?
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lol
Diezel, I wish (well maybe) cannot substantiate the price.
Engl, selling/sold mine.
Kock, mine is big and 'heavy' enough LOL
Nah, a Rivera
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So what will it be then?
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Rivera Knucklehead
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Rivera Knucklehead
Had one about 10 years ago ... didn't like. Unless you like it mega direct and fast and very very loud.
Diezel Einstein is nice too :)
But say at a serious note ... you live in Texas and buy a Rivera in Europe? Does that make any sense?
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used to Live in Texas (father passed away so moved 'home' to UK). Missus still in Texas at our house awaiting immigration to move over here.
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+1 for Thomann.de
I use them all the time and have never had any problems. Very cheap, and quick delivery too.
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great
well it's thomann or another have going, will know by weekend.
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They got a B-Stock one for 1599 EUR at the moment
http://www.thomann.de/de/rivera_kr55_knucklehead_55_bstock.htm
(just missing the original packaga box they say)
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yep, tis my intent :)
But also am looking at 100w one elsewhere
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Hmm, they seem to have evolved quite a bit since I had mine. Mine was basically a 100 W monster with two channels and boost per channel, Presence and Resonance in Master. Was a good top but I missed some smoothness, this might be better now.
Also the output power options look amaying, down to 8 Watt, that's cool.
Riveras aren't very famous around here, except that Rudolf Schenker of the Scorpions used to endorse them ... maybe you can get one, do some clips and get us all GASing :)
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played one yesterday, but briefly so cannot go into details really.
But, for me, it was amazing. Very tweakable (not always a good thing but oh well) and very clear. The 'headmaster' midi was great too.
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Hmm, they seem to have evolved quite a bit since I had mine. Mine was basically a 100 W monster with two channels and boost per channel, Presence and Resonance in Master. Was a good top but I missed some smoothness, this might be better now.
Also the output power options look amaying, down to 8 Watt, that's cool.
Riveras aren't very famous around here, except that Rudolf Schenker of the Scorpions used to endorse them ... maybe you can get one, do some clips and get us all GASing :)
alot of the 'newer' metal guys seem 'claim' to be using them.
Stone Sour (Jim Root, obvi. Slipknot too, and Josh and), Staind,Creed/Alter Bridge,Mick Thomson (Slipknot again, sheesh),Adam Jones (though he uses ALOT of amps lol),etc. etc.
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and very clear
I think that's what I disliked, just not enough dirt /grind for hunteyboy :)
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maybe should say ARTICULATE
In my short time, Green Channel one was VERY clean!
Orange Channel two was good grind/crunch rythm channel
Red Channel three was all out INSANE. Those Slipknot guys kinda get down an dirty so ya know it's gonna do that.
I have not tried the older 2 channel head but as you say (and I imagine) they have changed quite a wee bit :twisted:
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yeah you're right, and the price is impressive for a US make amp with all these features, I thought they were all 2000+
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Mark, what ya mean?
Still has two days to go and I am winning (by a MILE right now) I may add :)
Either way, after now playing one, 'one will be mine :)'
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AH....phew, I thought you may have wated to keep it a little under yer hat, what with alluding to 'other sources' and what not.
Thats ok then.
Good goddamn luck!
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yeah you're right, and the price is impressive for a US make amp with all these features, I thought they were all 2000+
Have been researching the nuts off amps of late and played quite a few (BadCat,Koch,Powerball Engl,VHT) but not a Diezel as guy books a studio for you to try em and as they are abit steep for me atm.
However, look closely at the Knucklehead spec. sheet and tell me it don't resemble a Diezel Herbert :)
Paul Rivera apparently worked for both Fender and Marshall and Peter Diezel began by modding Marshall's. However, I believe the Knucklehead may have been around a wee bit longer than the Herbert,hmmmm :)
Anywhoo, it really is an amazing amp. You can tell abit by the weight, it's an 'arm stretcher!'
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AH....phew, I thought you may have wated to keep it a little under yer hat, what with alluding to 'other sources' and what not.
Thats ok then.
Good goddamn luck!
2+2 makes 4 and all that and my name there is same as here (ish) so don't gotta be as brainy as Joe ( ;) ) to figure it out.
Anywhoo, if I lose, I did what I did and will go to thomann :)
Thing is, def. decided this is da amp ;)
Told ya they spec. well huh :)
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Spec looks killer.
The worst harmony central reviews (the ones I take the most notice of) are still glowing.
I need to get my legra through it!
Which remiinds me...
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Cumbria is abit of a looooooooong roadtrip for me :) ya better have good beer up there ;)
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:lol:
I mean ONE of them, anywhere!
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darn, no invite, that mean the beer SUCKS in Cumbria then? :)
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Hey man, youre more than welcome. We got good beer! And, oh, errr, 2 metal pubs in the whole county. The rest sucks though. Not much but beer.
Cumbira. Where the men are men, and sometimes so are the women :(
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men r men etc. has me SKEERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe not a place to be at night! ;)
I think (used to be) Salisbury (nearest City to me) has more Pubs per square mile than anywhere else in the UK ;) Hic
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Dude, if theres two houses in the middle of nowhere here then there will be a pub.
I live in a town of 25000 people and there are a good 50 pubs, minimum. And a few bars and clubs.
Alcohol is by far and away the main past-time here :lol:
Some of the women are pretty hot. But...well, lets put it this way, Millom, a town about 30 miles down the coast, has one of the highest inbreeding rates in europe :o
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ooh, thought inbreeding was contained to Alabama these days :o
Just kiddin all ya folks in Montgomery, ;)
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I went to Blainau Festiniog in N Wales once. Seemed pretty apparant there too!
Good luck with the new buy Nick. What did you make of the Koch?
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I liked the Koch but it was abit big for me (they only would sell the 4x12 1/2 stack, not a dealer). It had a def. distinct tone and I DID manage to piss em off by letting free with the volume :)
Just like the spec and tone of the Rivera. And I plan a very small rack so the midi will be VERY usefull. I was lusting after the Herbert (although still say it's overpriced) and the Rivera is as close but alot more reasonable with a very distinct tone of it's own and a truly amazing clean channel to boot.
We really SHOULD try and organise a BKP PUP/Ampfest ya' know :)
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I liked the Koch but it was abit big for me (they only would sell the 4x12 1/2 stack, not a dealer). It had a def. distinct tone and I DID manage to piss em off by letting free with the volume :)
Just like the spec and tone of the Rivera. And I plan a very small rack so the midi will be VERY usefull. I was lusting after the Herbert (although still say it's overpriced) and the Rivera is as close but alot more reasonable with a very distinct tone of it's own and a truly amazing clean channel to boot.
We really SHOULD try and organise a BKP PUP/Ampfest ya' know :)
Yeah in Salisbury so we can go combat drinking in all your pubs!! 8)
My amp dominates my room and it's a great shelf too! :wink:
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Ahhhh Wiltshire, the place of my humble home Ooo arrr...
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just to point out (and this is totally hearsay) i heard some not so good things about thomann, maybe over at lordriffenstein's engl forum (i can't remember exactly where).
I can't remember much about it, but I guess you'd like to know anyway, mark.
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i had no problem what-so-ever from them, when i bought the monitors from them.
they even called me to say when my package was shipped. extremely fast shipping too
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Well, not heard back from em as of yet but then again was late this afternoon I emailed em.
Anywhoo, have till Saturday to see which way this particular saga goes anyway :)
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I liked the Koch but it was abit big for me (they only would sell the 4x12 1/2 stack, not a dealer). It had a def. distinct tone and I DID manage to piss em off by letting free with the volume :)
Just like the spec and tone of the Rivera. And I plan a very small rack so the midi will be VERY usefull. I was lusting after the Herbert (although still say it's overpriced) and the Rivera is as close but alot more reasonable with a very distinct tone of it's own and a truly amazing clean channel to boot.
We really SHOULD try and organise a BKP PUP/Ampfest ya' know :)
Yeah in Salisbury so we can go combat drinking in all your pubs!! 8)
My amp dominates my room and it's a great shelf too! :wink:
Johnny, would'nt be so much point a PUP/AMP 'fest if we had same amp anyway ;)
And,hmmmmmmm in Salisbury, I'm game. Nearest neighbors to me are over 300ft. in any direction so volume could/can be arranged :twisted:
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RE Rivera Knucklehead. I think Steve Lukather used one on the No Substitutions album and it rocks! Carltons tone is better though... Fancy a Dumble? :wink:
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Somebody here has GOT TO TRY A DUMBLE!
Can they really be THAT good? I'd love to know...
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Well, not heard back from em as of yet but then again was late this afternoon I emailed em.
I think there was a bank holiday in DE yesterday. Calling is usually better than mailing ... in general ...
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ahh, ok, thanks Hunter.
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OK, nother opinion thing.
Lets say the KH 100r is not won by me.
So, I can go for a KH 55r (same thing in 55watts, which tbh is MORE than fine, and with warranty etc.).
But what about the NEW K Tre???? Damn, hate decisions. I hav'nt tried this one. Two channels with heaviest gain on any Rivera ever produced and the other the 'normal' gorgeous Rivera clean channel. Apart from only 2 channels the main deiff. I can see is lack of midi switching.
Now, have not had a midi amp but think it's very nice/useable idea. But, what in 'real world' would you guys say?
K Tre without midi
K 55 r with midi
Thanks
Nick
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If I could just chime in on the Thomann question ....
I do recommend them in general and have put thousands of Euros worth of business their way. On price and standard service, they're unbeatable. But if your dealings go beyond ordering something online from stock, they can be very frustrating and are anything but flexible. You'll not get quick answers on any e-mail enquiries and will have trouble getting hold of anyone on the phone.
Be careful of ordering B-stock too. I ordered an amp advertised "B-stock, returned goods, perfect condition, original packaging damaged". When it came, the package still included the letter of complaint from the previous customer, listing a number of genuine faults.
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OK, nother opinion thing.
Lets say the KH 100r is not won by me.
So, I can go for a KH 55r (same thing in 55watts, which tbh is MORE than fine, and with warranty etc.).
But what about the NEW K Tre???? Damn, hate decisions. I hav'nt tried this one. Two channels with heaviest gain on any Rivera ever produced and the other the 'normal' gorgeous Rivera clean channel. Apart from only 2 channels the main deiff. I can see is lack of midi switching.
Now, have not had a midi amp but think it's very nice/useable idea. But, what in 'real world' would you guys say?
K Tre without midi
K 55 r with midi
Thanks
Nick
People got by without midi for ages just fine :D
But seriously, I think the 3 channel-ness and multiple options of the K55R would let you use midi to your advantage to switch between sounds and what have you.
The Tre, being two channel, I know I would pick a clean and a distortion I like and switch between them normally and midi isnt really missing from this simpler amp.
So I think the choice seems to me to be between multi-option playground amp and more conventional amp. Real world? I can see the midi being really usefull at gigs. I can also see a great amp making great tones and a happy Nick (or Mark, as I'm looking at similar things) just fine without it.
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Thanks for the heads-up.
Hopefully you just got a 'one-off bad one' there.
The B-Stock am looking at states it's missing orig. packing, whereas some state they are a return (though it's only as good/correct as whoever inputs the data wants it to be). Dunno. It is warrantied but sending back/forth will be a pita for any issues.
Now am in dilema over the KH55r and the K Tre , damn, not easy when hav'nt got full range nearby to try.
Know I love the KHR but not tried the K Tre.
Not sure that no midi and one less channel will make much diff. to me.
Darn Dave_Mc has infected me with indecisions AAAGGGGHHH!!!!!!!
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OK, nother opinion thing.
K Tre without midi
K 55 r with midi
Thanks
Nick
People got by without midi for ages just fine :D
But seriously, I think the 3 channel-ness and multiple options of the K55R would let you use midi to your advantage to switch between sounds and what have you.
The Tre, being two channel, I know I would pick a clean and a distortion I like and switch between them normally and midi isnt really missing from this simpler amp.
So I think the choice seems to me to be between multi-option playground amp and more conventional amp. Real world? I can see the midi being really usefull at gigs. I can also see a great amp making great tones and a happy Nick (or Mark, as I'm looking at similar things) just fine without it.
Mark,
it's funny as I discount some (like the Engl Invader) due to some aspects like the complexity. However the functions afforded by the midi on the Knucklehead are very tempting (esp. as intend a Rocktron rack unit in future).
However, with both Mesa and Engl, did I constantly tweak/switch/change? NOPE, I found a good sound on each channel for me and pretty much left it as 'my tone'. Course, changing guitars (as Tim's pups are so different also) makes for abit of tweaking but still.
I guess the K Tre is touted as HEAVIEST Rivera ever. And due to pristine clean channel it can be used with pedals/effects alone, not taking into account the gain monster channel.
Ahh, shoot, it will figure itself out one way or another. May still end up with the Knucklehead 100 yet, just got feeling deep down I will not go far enough to win it (damn it'll be a long round trip, hell, am almost at BKP HQ, wanna put the coffee on and lemme sample more pups Tim et all???? ;)).
Spending this kinda dosh is not easy huh :)
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Thanks for the heads-up.
Hopefully you just got a 'one-off bad one' there.
The B-Stock am looking at states it's missing orig. packing, whereas some state they are a return (though it's only as good/correct as whoever inputs the data wants it to be). Dunno. It is warrantied but sending back/forth will be a pita for any issues.
I'm sure most of the B stock products are fine and as described, i.e. are really just missing the packaging or were returned because the customers just didn't like what they ordered. Just be extra picky and give the gear a real good once over and you'll be fine.
Just thought it fair to let you know that they are not completely adverse to trying to pull a fast one!
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and I DO appreciate it. Hassle or not, least they give 30 day money back gaurantee.
They actually emailed me back and assured me it was/is just the packaging.
Another head , B-Stock, says packing missing and is a return.
Again, guess it has to do with the honesty/integrety/knowledge of the person inputting the data on the site.
On another subject, the guy selling the KH100r head, phew,hmmm, well, been emailing him and dunno. I politely asked (fishing trip ;)) why he had no reserve/minimum start price and he was not getting alot of bids (done this before, just fishing). I said it looks very nice and I have bid my max and look forward to the end. He emails me back kinda outraged, 'are you serious! I expect a minimum of X amount!, it cost me X amount and is as new! I have people emailling me and a local guy that wants it'. Friggin el!!!!!!! LOL. What a $£&&** firstly, my MAX bid is NOT seen by him (guess he thought the max bid right at moment was/is my max bid). Obviously he is abit daft to be posting on Ebay me thinks. Heck, am sure will go higher at end of time but heck, it goes for what it goes for when there is No Reserve and No Starting price. I dare say if he dos'nt make what he expects/wants he will refuse to sell. Sheesh, some ppl. :)
No worries, either way will have one this weekend :twisted:
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Crazy. Way to go into it with forethought there!
I can see him getting good feedback
/sarcasm.
This weekend, eh? New amp o' clock...exciting times!
You leaning to the 55 or the Tre then if you dont get the 100?
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On another subject, the guy selling the KH100r head, phew,hmmm, well, been emailing him and dunno. I politely asked (fishing trip ;)) why he had no reserve/minimum start price and he was not getting alot of bids (done this before, just fishing).
I see it's the first sale he's made, so maybe he's just not very clued up about reserve prices etc. And it's good that he's not getting many bids! I never bid on anything until the very last minute, bidding early just pushes the price up unnecessarily (unless you're the only one of course!). There could be loads of people watching it.
(I'm not going to bid on the head BTW :wink: ! Just interested to see what it sells for)
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Knucklehead KHR (Tre,hmm, just too many possibilities with KHR and have some exp. with it, but not Tre).
Order or win this weekend.
I fully realise bidding may go nuts at end and not worried at all. Have a fair max bid. Just abit aghast at his response, wether he is nieve or not, not a good way to great a possible customer (as it where). Anyway, tbh, kinda jaded with his attitude so if win thats fine (less he runs me around) if not fine too :)
Just pondering darn cab now. More difficult than a head! :evil:
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Philly, this turning into bit of a Soap Opera? ;) You voyeur you LOL
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Philly, this turning into bit of a Soap Opera? ;) You voyeur you LOL
Have to make do with whatever excitement I can find, at my age. :wink:
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Philly, this turning into bit of a Soap Opera? ;) You voyeur you LOL
Have to make do with whatever excitement I can find, at my age. :wink:
ROFLMAO
Well Sambo is usually quite entertaining :wink:
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Darn Dave_Mc has infected me with indecisions AAAGGGGHHH!!!!!!!
I'll have you know I just bought a valve junior today- only 2/3 days after trying it! That qualifies as an impulse buy for me! :lol:
It could also bring a valid viewpoint to the "MIDI or not MIDI" argument. My engl has 14,347 knobs at last count (and a few round the back I probably missed too)- and I just bought an amp with 1 knob.
Is that because I already have what Mark calls a "playground" amp? Or because I'm getting sick of so many knobs?
I have no idea. But I know it's nice to have both! :lol:
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If I could just chime in on the Thomann question ....
I do recommend them in general and have put thousands of Euros worth of business their way. On price and standard service, they're unbeatable. But if your dealings go beyond ordering something online from stock, they can be very frustrating and are anything but flexible. You'll not get quick answers on any e-mail enquiries and will have trouble getting hold of anyone on the phone.
Be careful of ordering B-stock too. I ordered an amp advertised "B-stock, returned goods, perfect condition, original packaging damaged". When it came, the package still included the letter of complaint from the previous customer, listing a number of genuine faults.
I think that's a bit like the bad things I heard about them (the first paragraph, not the "pulling a fast one" paragraph).
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Dave,
GO AWAY
You have indecision disease (VJ purchase or not) and it's catching!!!!!!!!!!
JK
And good for u on the baby amp purchase :)
Am concerning myself with the age old 'what speaker is best' choice now.
Although, if the Diezel is cheap enough it a no brainer really (V30's kinda always work, maybe not THE speaker for amp but always work:)).
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yeah, that's why i went for my cab with the v30's- I'd hardly tried any speakers (still haven't, but at least I know slightly more about them now), but as you say, the v30's normally sound at least "decent/good" in most high gain applications. and they sound pretty darn good for vintage tones too (though not as good as a speaker only aimed at vintage tones, perhaps), which is what I was after- a good all-rounder in other words.
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feck Evilbay :)
Rivera KR55 Knucklehead on order :twisted:
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^ \m/ :twisted: \m/
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feck Evilbay :)
Rivera KR55 Knucklehead on order :twisted:
Damn, spoiled my eBay Peeping Tom pleasure! :(
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lol, well due to the guy being a complete MUPPET, and the associated loooooooooooooooong drive to p/u, decided new one was better option :)
Sorry, will let ya know when have another 'interesting' bid on the go ;)