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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: samoth2 on November 09, 2006, 06:28:48 PM

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 09, 2006, 06:28:48 PM

Well, next monday my mom is going to the states, and then she will propably bring me a pedal.

But I don't know which one to get. Im looking for a distortion pedal.

My setup:
Ibanez S470 with Rebel yells and slowhand and a Roland Microcube.

Most important is a nice crunchy rhytm sound.  

I listen to a digitech DF-7 online and it sounded nice and versitale (spelling?).

But i really liked the trash tone of the Boss MT-2.

Have some of you tried any of those?

Other suggestions are welcome.

Title: Pedals
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 09, 2006, 07:28:15 PM

Don't ever buy the Boss MT-2, it sucks, unless you are buying the Keeley modded MT-2. Don't know about the other one.

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 09, 2006, 07:36:32 PM

Thats what I heard everywhere else.. So I guess it's out of the picture..

The overdrive in my is nice enough but it just needs a bit more crunch when doing rhytm..

Which pedal could give it the extra it needs?

Title: Pedals
Post by: Twinfan on November 09, 2006, 10:33:05 PM

EH Metal Muff?

Title: Pedals
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on November 09, 2006, 11:17:28 PM

The MT-2 has its uses; I wouldn't say it's useless. It is used to great effect on a section of Change of Seasons by Dream Theater. That's just ONE SECTION, however. The rest of the tune is a wall of whatever amps he was using at the time.

If you're looking for a good distortion pedal and want to take advantage of the exchange rate, you might wanna look at distortion pedals by:

EH (as mentioned above)
Fulltone
HBE
Damage Control

Title: Pedals
Post by: Philly Q on November 09, 2006, 11:24:04 PM

I quite like my MT-2, but then I did get it for nothing.  It does seem like something you'd use occasionally, not as your main distortion pedal.

Enough, I know nothing about pedals.  I'll get me coat.

Title: Pedals
Post by: RorySRV on November 10, 2006, 07:44:17 AM

A Marshall BB-2 :
http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Bluesbreaker%20II

Sound Samples: http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Bluesbreaker%20II&pageType=DOWNLOADS  

or

A Marshall Guv'nor : http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Guvnor

Sound Samples: http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Guvnor&pageType=DOWNLOADS

A Marshall Jackhammer: http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Jackhammer

Sound Samples: http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Jackhammer&pageType=DOWNLOADS

Sorry for all the options but I dont know what level of distortion you want.

I have the BB-2 and Guv'nor and they are great pedals. I should endorse marshall pedals  :P

Enjoy :wink: ,

RorySRV,

Title: Pedals
Post by: Joe Dorcia on November 10, 2006, 09:58:40 AM

I would definately go for a keeley Modded pedal. Their TS-808/909 mods and various other overdrive mods are stunning, with huge variety too. They are by far the best out there in my opinion.

Title: Pedals
Post by: Kepu on November 10, 2006, 12:30:38 PM

^but you must remember he got a microcube, it's not a tube amp so all OVERDRIVE pedals wont sound very good, so you got to choose from the distortion pedals


and more on the topic, I'm personally looking at the EH Metal Muff and it's awesome!

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 10, 2006, 02:33:56 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions.. I'll check 'em when I get the time  :D

Well, I read a review of the Metal Muff, and it wasn't so good for palm muting rhytm. So it propably won't be that one.. In the review they recommended a Pro Co Rat 2..

 Anybody tried one?

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 10, 2006, 03:03:36 PM

Quote from: RorySRV

A Marshall BB-2 :
http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Bluesbreaker%20II

Sound Samples: http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Bluesbreaker%20II&pageType=DOWNLOADS  

or

A Marshall Guv'nor : http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Guvnor

Sound Samples: http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Guvnor&pageType=DOWNLOADS

A Marshall Jackhammer: http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Jackhammer

Sound Samples: http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Jackhammer&pageType=DOWNLOADS

Sorry for all the options but I dont know what level of distortion you want.

I have the BB-2 and Guv'nor and they are great pedals. I should endorse marshall pedals  :P

Enjoy :wink: ,

RorySRV,

Really liked the Guv'nor.. Sounded great..

Title: Pedals
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 10, 2006, 06:28:50 PM

Jackhammer is not too good either.

Title: Pedals
Post by: Shag101 on November 10, 2006, 08:40:20 PM

If she got a car and dont mind driving to long island, she can go here.  www.pedalgeek.com
Way better prices than the city and like 20 minutes away drive.  She can mapquest it.  
Most pedals have sound clips.  
Just call to make sure he got it in stock in the store.  
He is also a BKP dealer, but his prices on those are a little high for some reason.  
thanks
chris

Title: Pedals
Post by: RorySRV on November 10, 2006, 09:02:15 PM

Yep the Guv'nor is kinda in between.

Can get the hard rock/ high energy blues sound (Jimmy Page for example) as well as the metal and shred tone(Satriani etc).

BTW If you want to get the guv'nor I would advise you get your mum to get it when she gets back and order it from  http://www.gak.co.uk because its about £40 including delivery (£33) without and from what I have seen on musiciansfriend and american things like that its about $69 which I am not sure if its with delivery but its about £50...

Up to you anyway.

I hope you enjoy whatever pedal you get and your mums expenditure is worth it  :wink:

Enjoy  :),

RorySRV,

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 10, 2006, 10:03:09 PM

Well the plan was that she would visit a music store and buy one.. So no need for delivery..

But long island is a bit to far, she's going to texas..

Title: Pedals
Post by: Shag101 on November 11, 2006, 01:39:39 AM

Quote from: samoth2

But long island is a bit to far, she's going to texas..

HAHAHA, sorry about that.  I thought I saw NYC some place.  
I had a long day at work :fouet:  Thank god its the weekend!!!!

I had a roland micro cube.  I recently gave it to my little cousin since she is trying to learn how to play guitar.
From what I remember, pedals did not really work that well for me with that amp.  
I would buy another combo with at least a 10" instead of a pedal, but if you really like the micro cube, the best way for me was to leave it on the JC clean setting with the pedal in front of it.  The modded MT-2 was the best sounding through it for me.  
You really cant get a floor rumbling palm mute with that little amp.  
But like I said, if you really dont want another amp, the closets your gonna get for what you want in a modded mt-2.  

thanks
chris

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 11, 2006, 07:46:37 AM

Quote from: Shag101

Quote from: samoth2

But long island is a bit to far, she's going to texas..

HAHAHA, sorry about that.  I thought I saw NYC some place.  
I had a long day at work :fouet:  Thank god its the weekend!!!!

I had a roland micro cube.  I recently gave it to my little cousin since she is trying to learn how to play guitar.
From what I remember, pedals did not really work that well for me with that amp.  
I would buy another combo with at least a 10" instead of a pedal, but if you really like the micro cube, the best way for me was to leave it on the JC clean setting with the pedal in front of it.  The modded MT-2 was the best sounding through it for me.  
You really cant get a floor rumbling palm mute with that little amp.  
But like I said, if you really dont want another amp, the closets your gonna get for what you want in a modded mt-2.  

thanks
chris

Well, I can't get her to buy me a new amp :P

So I'll settle for a pedal, and if it doesn't sound good I can just wait till I get a new amp before I use it.

Title: Pedals
Post by: RorySRV on November 11, 2006, 05:55:33 PM

Yep, suppose so...

So you decided on a pedal yet???

RorySRV,

Title: Pedals
Post by: Dakine on November 11, 2006, 06:00:37 PM

My Microcube is still at my house in Texas lol.

I bought a Boss GT-8 to mess with with the amp (but thats probably more than mum wants to spend).
On the GT-8, the best pedal (effects) that I found to go with the M'cube was the Rat and the Guvnor.
Just don't expect miracles from the lil guy, aint no way ya gonna get chest thumping palm mute riffage from it, but it sure can be fun trying  :lol:

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 11, 2006, 09:48:12 PM

I used my money on the guitar :)

And I won't start working till April. But when I save up some money I was thinking about a Peavey JSX 212 combo..  8)

Title: Pedals
Post by: dave_mc on November 11, 2006, 10:06:45 PM

Quote from: TwilightOdyssey

The MT-2 has its uses; I wouldn't say it's useless. It is used to great effect on a section of Change of Seasons by Dream Theater. That's just ONE SECTION, however. The rest of the tune is a wall of whatever amps he was using at the time.

If you're looking for a good distortion pedal and want to take advantage of the exchange rate, you might wanna look at distortion pedals by:

EH (as mentioned above)
Fulltone
HBE
Damage Control

wow, i didn't know that about dream theater. I'd have figured if you had a wall of mesas behind you you'd use the mesas, but what do I know, lol. EDIT: i guess the tr00ch wanted a different tone or something.

Seconded on the pedals, in particular both the HBE big d (distortion, but can get into overdrive territory) and power screamer (overdrive but has quite a bit of gain so I suspect it'd work quite well even with a solid state amp).

But you have to ask yourself, do you want to run a £125-£150 (maybe a little less in the states) pedal into a £70 amp?

On the plus side, though, if you do get a pedal that good, you wouldn't be needing to change it once you got a new amp (unless by some unlikely coincidence it just plain didn't get along with your new amp).

I dunno, I suppose, you could make cases for either side of the argument.

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 11, 2006, 10:09:59 PM

Yeah the plan is to get a pedal I can keep..

I don't need a new amp at the moment, but when I will begin playing in a band and such I will of course have to get a new amp..

And if I don't tell my mom to buy me a pedal she will buy me something useless ;)

Title: Pedals
Post by: dave_mc on November 11, 2006, 10:11:34 PM

Quote from: samoth2

I used my money on the guitar :)

And I won't start working till April. But when I save up some money I was thinking about a Peavey JSX 212 combo..  8)

you're in the UK, right?

In that case, I'd think very carefully before buying a peavey. they're basically good value decent/budget USA-built amps in the United States, but once they come over here, by the sole reason that they're made in the USA, they seem to get elevated to "boutique" status, with price tags to match.

I'm not saying don't get a Peavey, if you try them (and everything else in a similar price range) and fall in love, by all means buy one. (Just make sure you try all the rivals, though)

But I know that in my opinion (and a few of the other guys around here) for virtually every amp in the Peavey line-up, there's a much better value, better sounding rival made in the UK or Europe. Cheaper and better, in other words. In my opinion, obviously.

:drink:

Title: Pedals
Post by: dave_mc on November 11, 2006, 10:12:15 PM

Quote from: samoth2

Yeah the plan is to get a pedal I can keep..

I don't need a new amp at the moment, but when I will begin playing in a band and such I will of course have to get a new amp..

And if I don't tell my mom to buy me a pedal she will buy me something useless ;)

aye, then buy a good pedal now.

:drink:

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 11, 2006, 10:17:13 PM

Quote from: dave_mc

Quote from: samoth2

I used my money on the guitar :)

And I won't start working till April. But when I save up some money I was thinking about a Peavey JSX 212 combo..  8)

you're in the UK, right?

In that case, I'd think very carefully before buying a peavey. they're basically good value decent/budget USA-built amps in the United States, but once they come over here, by the sole reason that they're made in the USA, they seem to get elevated to "boutique" status, with price tags to match.

I'm not saying don't get a Peavey, if you try them (and everything else in a similar price range) and fall in love, by all means buy one. (Just make sure you try all the rivals, though)

But I know that in my opinion (and a few of the other guys around here) for virtually every amp in the Peavey line-up, there's a much better value, better sounding rival made in the UK or Europe. Cheaper and better, in other words. In my opinion, obviously.

:drink:

Nope, good old Denmark :)

I haven't tried any amps or compared prices..

But when I come closer to amp-changing time I will consider every single amp I can find..

Minus MGs..  :lol:

Title: Pedals
Post by: Shag101 on November 11, 2006, 10:52:09 PM

Um, you say she is going to texas.
U might want to try one of these
http://www.protonepedals.com/pedal_bodyrotii.html

He is located in texas.  the body rot II is a really heavy distortion pedal.   :twisted:

Title: Pedals
Post by: dave_mc on November 11, 2006, 11:59:14 PM

Quote from: samoth2

Nope, good old Denmark :)

I haven't tried any amps or compared prices..

But when I come closer to amp-changing time I will consider every single amp I can find..

Minus MGs..  :lol:

:lol:

I'm guessing it'll be a similar thing in denmark to here as to the price of peaveys, but you never know...

I seem to remember (from other forums) that amp prices are a lot cheaper in germany than denmark, so if you're anywhere near the border you might want to consider shopping there (or maybe shop online at one of the big german shops, assuming you can get to try the amps near where you are first).

:drink:

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 12, 2006, 09:18:18 AM

Yeah, Peaveys are expensive over here to..

But you could always order it from USA and get it send as a "gift" by someone you know over there  :P

Title: Pedals
Post by: dave_mc on November 12, 2006, 03:54:54 PM

^ you'd need to get a transformer though, the USA is 110V, we're 230 odd over here...

Title: Pedals
Post by: samoth2 on November 13, 2006, 05:18:23 PM

No no, it the americans who are odd :P