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At The Back => The Dressing Room => Topic started by: Muso on November 10, 2006, 10:34:00 AM

Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Muso on November 10, 2006, 10:34:00 AM
I really could use some advice.

Basically I have been in this new job for the past 3 months and I fuc*ing hate it, whats worse is that my boss is a malignant c*nt. Anyway today has been the worst day yet and I don't wanna come back on Monday, I have a contract of employment which sais I have to give 1 months notice but I honestly can't handle even 1 more day.

Whats the worst that can happen if I just don't turn up for work or just don't come back a letter saying I had to leave for personal reasons?

I really can't handle this anymore! :twisted:
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: ToneMonkey on November 10, 2006, 10:41:38 AM
Ha ha, we've all been there mate.

Well if you want to see how to leave a job and not go back, you should talk to my old man.  He's the grand master.

I think his prefered method is to thretten to kick the bosses head in (or atleast tell him to "**** right off, chap").  He'll not want you back on Monday that way.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Muso on November 10, 2006, 11:30:17 AM
I'm just worried about breaking my contract and what legal shite it will get me into. oh yea dude its a SHE boss if it was a man I would have done something already.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: ToneMonkey on November 10, 2006, 11:38:51 AM
Well they can not pay you for the months notice.  I think that it can go to court and the like, but it's highly unlikely.

I was once financially tied into a contract and spent about 2 months trying to get the sack.  I would turn up late, take a couple of hours for lunch and come back steaming, stay around long enough to sober up, then go home.  This went on for ages and they still didn't sack me  :evil: .

Tell her that the full moons over now, so she should go and shave because when she turned back into person, she left the warewolf's moustache.  Generally that "give a months notice" cr@p doesn't come back on you.  A swift "**** YOU" and a dump in the top draw of her desk should be enough that she doesn't want you back  :twisted: .
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: jt on November 10, 2006, 12:24:55 PM
:D Guys Guys such extreme behaviour !!

You dont need to do any of that. Dont turn up, Dont phone in. This will breach most companys work policies. You`ll be facing disciplinary procedures if you were to go back. This could result in you getting the sack. After a couple of weeks they`ll work out that your not returning. As for legal cases against you. Unless the job that your doing is vital & means absolutley no one else can work OR your a brain surgeon type of thing were you would endanger lives then theres no point in them prosecuting & no lawyer would ever touch it.

I have walk out of work & not been prosecuted, & i`ll bet most of us older ones on the forum have also walked out of work & i`ll wager non of them have been prosecuted !!

 :D  8)
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: ToneMonkey on November 10, 2006, 12:39:53 PM
Where's the fun in that  :twisted:
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Chris1974 on November 10, 2006, 12:46:34 PM
Despite any legal comeback with yuor current employers, if you just walk out, or leave in very bad terms it may affect your chances of getting another job ........... depends if they ask for referances or not.

Just try and grin and bear it, don't let them know you want to leave, find another job, and then take satisfaction in handing them your notice out of the blue !
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Elliot on November 10, 2006, 12:57:34 PM
They can't get an injunction to get you to come back as there is legal authority that a court will not enforce a labout contract if it meant that to do so they would enslave you.

They could theoretically sue you for breach of contract: but I doubt it as your newly found unemployed status would mean that you have no money  :D

You would be sacked immediately, you wouldn't get a month's wages and you wouldn't get a reference - so in the next job you would have to explain why you left under a cloud.  So its probably worth waiting the month.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Muso on November 10, 2006, 01:40:45 PM
I don't need a references I can get a job easily at my old place they will take me back.

So basically nothing to worry about if I just walk then?
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Kilby on November 10, 2006, 04:18:41 PM
If the boss is that bad and you have documentry evidence (or witneses I beleive) you could walk out and then take the company to a tribuneral for constructive dissmissal.

The other thing to do is to complain about your boss, in the UK the CAB is very useful for pointing you in a suitable direction, as can a union rep (even if you are not in a union)

Rob...
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Brow on November 10, 2006, 04:45:05 PM
You have to be in a job ATLEAST 2 years before you have to give a months notice to quit. Upto 2 years service, it's 1 weeks notice.

I had ALOT of cr@p myself with my last employer, and the above info is what the Citizens Advice Bureau told me.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: jt on November 10, 2006, 05:21:41 PM
:D No its OK for you to walk out.

BUT as the guys have said if you need a reference then you`ll be F***ed BUT there is a way round it. Sign on to an Agency [ Manpower etc ] then do any of the jobs that they give you then ask for a reference & they will happily give you a reference. I know i`ve done exactly this & it worked for me !

 :D  8)
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: 38thBeatle on November 10, 2006, 07:20:23 PM
It would be highly unlikely that you would suffer court action-they will just terminate your contract for your breach of contract. Of course if you went in and gave your notice(whether it be a week or month it doesn't matter) you could easily find tha they tell you you need not come in anymore but that they will not pay you if you don't-so the upshot is: you can walk out with impunity.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 10, 2006, 07:39:05 PM
The legal point to be noted regarding references is very simple.

Your previous employer can refuse to provide a reference but CANNOT give you a bad reference - either in writing or over the phone - to a prospective employer.

Such would constitute defamation and could be actionable by you.

I wholeheartedly doubt that the contract would / could be enforced but should such happen you would simply counter with threats of taking them to tribunal over constructive dismissal.

Just walk...  :)

GOOD LUCK! Happy days are still to come..
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Jp. on November 11, 2006, 10:19:27 AM
tea up a new job.... and walk.

whats the worst they can do. "we wont pay you for your last month"


"Umm so ... I've got a new job"

It might be worth noting that you may want to put in writing your reasons for leaving. NOT in a malicious way. Send a copy to her and her supervisor. Unless she owns the business she would have a supevisor too.

BTW your not a swimming instructor? My sister runs a swimming school and she can be a right cow  :lol:  :lol: .* JOKE'S*
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Ol on November 11, 2006, 11:59:03 AM
Quote from: Brow
You have to be in a job ATLEAST 2 years before you have to give a months notice to quit. Upto 2 years service, it's 1 weeks notice.

I had ALOT of cr@p myself with my last employer, and the above info is what the Citizens Advice Bureau told me.


Can you provide a written reference?

rgds
Ol.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: chrisola on November 12, 2006, 01:36:22 AM
jobs have different notice periods, mine is a month, i've been there 2 and a bit years.

a new job which i've just got (dont know if i will take it..) has 1 week notice for the probationary period of 3months, after that its a month.

Your employer can suspend you instead of you actually working your notice, usually with pay! It depends on your contract really.


I work in finance and theres some points in the contract about not working for another financial company within 10miles of the head office, or about trying to entice staff\customers away or leaking procedures etc to the competition but i think most of those points are due to law and regulations in that sector... so i wouldnt want to mess with those (some harsh fines & penalties for stuff like that..)


Put it this way:

I worked for Game for 3 days and left, and i've never disclosed that on a CV to any employers, i also worked in Clarks for a week, then walked, and have never disclosed that either!

My mum walked out of a job after 3 weeks, and straight into another one, they just opted not to give her a reference and the new employers werent bothered.

:D



i spose they COULD enforce the contract, or threaten too, but they probably wont due to MONEY and TIME, which is in addition to getting a replacement for you etc etc.. these are 2 things companies dont like wasting.... what they gonna do, MAKE you work for them? :P
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: lulusg on November 12, 2006, 10:11:06 AM
Just walk out Muso. You get your life back in an instant.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Muso on November 19, 2006, 05:35:08 PM
quit my job on Monday and went on holiday to same day down to cornwall. I feel so much better not having to worry about that job! woohooo!
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: maliciousteve on November 21, 2006, 03:36:31 PM
quiting the job you hate is one of the best feelings.  I worked in a clothing warehouse for 3 months and after the 2nd or 3rd week i hated it. But i stayed on to see if i could handle it. But as soon as January hit, i had to leave. My supervisors, co workers and the overall warehouse system was terrible, no one was good enough with their job, they only ever made if worse.

So i left on the last day of January, had a month of unemployment (holiday  8) ) and then got the job i have now.

I'll be leaving this job soon too because i just can't find the time to play with a band and i hate that.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Jp. on November 22, 2006, 05:36:54 AM
Quote from: Muso
quit my job on Monday and went on holiday to same day down to cornwall. I feel so much better not having to worry about that job! woohooo!


good man. How are you going with a new job search.... any repercussion's
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: 38thBeatle on November 22, 2006, 08:06:57 AM
A few years ago I was pretty skint and took a part time job in a local factory-putting cd cases together-mind numbing stuff.It was 8 hours of sheer misery and how on earth people who do it full time cope I cannot imagine. I tried to streamline the production processes by organising the guys on my table-hardly any of them could speak English but they got the idea.The "supervisor" saw it and stopped it  and she was very rude to me.I told her what I thought of her and walked out.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Ratrod on November 22, 2006, 12:05:34 PM
I know how ya feelin' mate. I've had jobs I wanted to quit within a day. Waking up in the moring, have a cup of coffee and a cigarette, throw up a couple of times and off to that shitety job.

For a while now I had something steady that was actually a job I enjoyed doing. After a while, the work load doubled and tripled maybe even more. A part of this work has to be done before a certain time wich has become almost impossible. After that it takes more time than it should so I was always home late. There's lots of lifting involved too. All of that sh!t gave me a back problem. So now I'm home with a bad back. I can't lift anything heavy, I can hardly pick anything off the floor and I can't drive more than 20 minutes.

On top of that, I probably won't get paid.
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: Muso on November 23, 2006, 09:52:15 PM
Well what goes around comes around I guess, I got offered my old job back which was decent so I'm happy!

I think its majorly $%&#ed up how some smaller companies get, I mean the politics, its just crazy! I like the leave work at work policy thing which I try to live by. I was so worried about leaving that job after only 4 months like it was gonna mess me up big time, but its great to see afterwards how insignificant it actually is.

Peace
Title: Nothing to do with music but pretty serious non the less
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on December 30, 2006, 03:35:17 PM
Why do you think I'm on the dole? lol