Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum

Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: simonp on November 11, 2006, 12:25:16 AM

Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: simonp on November 11, 2006, 12:25:16 AM
Having finally sorted amp problems etc I recorded a solo using the new Mules in my LP Standard. After playing like cr*p in the studio I ended up doing this at home with an SM58 slung in front on the Trace Elliot Speed Twin combo using the higher gain voicing on Channel 2 but with quite low gain set. I added some Stereo delay and reverb in Cubase just to fatten it a touch. It is the bridge pickup by the way.
You can hear the great cut-through that the Mules give, so much more top end fizz and clarity than the Gibson pickup. Great pickup. Oh yes, the pickups are unpotted too.
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: Bird on November 11, 2006, 04:48:30 AM
Great tone and nice playing  8)  Mules Rule  :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: 38thBeatle on November 11, 2006, 07:33:43 AM
Very nice indeed, I think that you h/b boys maybe onto something.
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: _tom_ on November 11, 2006, 11:12:05 AM
Great tone and playing. Getting myself some basic recording eqpt. soon, I was always under the assumption that SM58 werent as good for guitar as SM57 but this one sounded good to me :P Whats the difference? Will be getting some Mule clips through my Laney when I get it/recording stuff  :twisted:
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: Canadian Steve on November 11, 2006, 12:12:27 PM
Quote from: _tom_
Great tone and playing. Getting myself some basic recording eqpt. soon, I was always under the assumption that SM58 werent as good for guitar as SM57 but this one sounded good to me :P Whats the difference? Will be getting some Mule clips through my Laney when I get it/recording stuff  :twisted:


The only real difference between the 2 mics is that the SM58 has a pop sheild, so it's better suited for vocals but listening to the clip can function as a great amp mic.  The SM57 would be more suited for an amp mic but can still be used as a great vocal mic.
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: simonp on November 11, 2006, 06:05:30 PM
Quote from: Canadian Steve
Quote from: _tom_
Great tone and playing. Getting myself some basic recording eqpt. soon, I was always under the assumption that SM58 werent as good for guitar as SM57 but this one sounded good to me :P Whats the difference? Will be getting some Mule clips through my Laney when I get it/recording stuff  :twisted:


The only real difference between the 2 mics is that the SM58 has a pop sheild, so it's better suited for vocals but listening to the clip can function as a great amp mic.  The SM57 would be more suited for an amp mic but can still be used as a great vocal mic.


I thought the mics were voiced differently too? I understood the 58 had a more middly response.

Thanks for the comments :D  I was really pleased how the sound came out with such a simple setup, I have not had such good results in the past, but might try this a bit more now. Certainly the feel of the pickup came over well. I'll be putting this solo properly into the final mix of the track tomorrow.
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: simonp on November 11, 2006, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
Very nice indeed, I think that you h/b boys maybe onto something.


h/b boys?
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: Bird on November 11, 2006, 06:08:38 PM
Quote from: simonp
Quote from: 38thBeatle
Very nice indeed, I think that you h/b boys maybe onto something.


h/b boys?
I believe h/b= humbucker
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: 38thBeatle on November 11, 2006, 07:46:40 PM
yep, I meant humbuckers. I am warming to them.
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: hunter on November 12, 2006, 04:45:53 AM
Very nice indeed! I more and more get convinced of the fact that mules really own that classic rock tone.

Mules might be the better Black Dogs in that perspective as I guess they are in fact closer to what Page used to play ...

Still I do dig my BlackDogs A LOT :)
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: simonp on November 12, 2006, 09:17:08 AM
When I first tried these Mules I was reminded a little of a single coil type of open sound, less muddy and compressed than most other humbuckers I have used. In fact it is possible to get a real piercing top sound on occasion which I certainly wouldn't usually associate with a humbucker.
They just sound great even with a thrown together recording like this.

Out of interest here is the solo alone without the song, unfortunately you can now hear that my playing wasn't that clean at times :lol:
Title: Another Mule demo
Post by: Canadian Steve on November 12, 2006, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: simonp
Quote from: Canadian Steve
Quote from: _tom_
Great tone and playing. Getting myself some basic recording eqpt. soon, I was always under the assumption that SM58 werent as good for guitar as SM57 but this one sounded good to me :P Whats the difference? Will be getting some Mule clips through my Laney when I get it/recording stuff  :twisted:


The only real difference between the 2 mics is that the SM58 has a pop sheild, so it's better suited for vocals but listening to the clip can function as a great amp mic.  The SM57 would be more suited for an amp mic but can still be used as a great vocal mic.


I thought the mics were voiced differently too? I understood the 58 had a more middly response.


That's right but not by a great deal.  The SM57 are used a lot for female vocals as well.