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At The Back => The Dressing Room => Topic started by: Bird on November 11, 2006, 06:18:22 PM
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So I'm going to start writing some songs for a metal EP of my own, just for fun, and I'm looking for some inspiration. I don't buy a lot of metal these days so I could use some suggestions to help me find the good stuff. Used to listen to nothing but metal back in the 80's. Now it's mostly classic rock and jazz. So help me out, what will get the METAL FIRES going again :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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depends on what kind of metal
some of my recommendations:
Power Metal: Blind Guardian(!!!); Angra; Lost Horizon; Avantasia
Symphonic Metal: Symphony X; Nightwish
Death Metal: Quo Vadis; Death (that's the name); Amon Amarth; Wintersun; In Flames; Kalmah; Children Of Bodom; Mors Principium Est;
Doom Metal: Agalloch; Katatonia; Electric Wizard; Novembers Doom
Progressive Metal:(my fav genre) Opeth; Ayreon; Arcturus; Green Carnation; Riverside; Sleepytime Gorilla Museum; In The Woods...; uneXpect; Winds;
I left lots of bands out of that list I thought you might know so that's kinda small list
and with metal it's kinda hard to put them into genres cuz they mix a lot of them, like Agalloch, and especially on the prog genre. Like Riverside and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum which occasionally doesn't have very much to do with metal at all
then some bands classic bands you should check out if you havn't:
W.A.S.P.; Exodus; Anthrax; Helloween; Iced Earth; Queensrÿche; Savatage; Stone; Tarot
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It's tough to put some bands in one category since many of them combine many elements. I'm just looking for suggestions overall, even specific cds if you have favs. I'll have to get used to the growling vocals though :wink: I'm probably most interested in progressive if I had to pick one genre. Looking at review of Mastodon, Lamb of God, Opeth, Meshuggah, and Children of Bodom on Amazon here. :twisted: :twisted:
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alright some awesome (some almost essential) metal CDs:
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Opeth - Deliverance
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Opeth - Damnation (no growling at all, calm counterpart of Deliverance album)
Opeth - Still Life
Opeth - Morningrise (basically any Opeth will do)
Ayreon - The Human Equation (features Opeth's Mikael Åkerfeldt)
Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors
Arcturus - La Masquerade Infernale (these Arcturus albums might a bit hard to get used to at first)
Blind Guardian - Imaginations From The Other Side
Blind Guardian - Nightfall In Middle-Earth (and same with BG, mostly anything will do but these are the best)
Green Carnation - Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness (one album, one song, it lasts for 60:06)
Green Carnation - A Blessing In Disguise
In Flames - The Jester Race
In Flames - Whoracle
Lost Horizon - Awakening The World
Angra - Temple Of Shadows
Pain Of Salvation - The Perfect Element I
Pain Of Salvation - BE (I forgot this prog band out of the last list... BE is very hard to get into, but it's awesome)
Symphony X - The Divine Winds Of Tragedy
Symphony X - V: The New Mythology Suite
Winds - Reflections Of The I
Riverside - Out Of Myself
Riverside - Second Life Syndrome
Amon Amarth - Versus The World
Amon Amarth - Once Sent From The Golden Hall
Edguy - Hellfire Club
Edguy - Rocket Ride
Katatonia - Viva Emptiness
Katatonia - Last Fair Deal Gone Down
Katatonia - The Great Cold Distance
Katatonia - Brave Murder Day (this one features... again! Mikael Åkerfeldt... though one warning, all Katatonia is very depressing music)
Mors Principium Est - The Unborn
Death - Symbolic
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Wintersun - Wintersun (self-titled)
That should keep you busy for a while :)
And remember, some of that stuff is hard to get into and will take a while... and I'm pretty sure you won't like some of the stuff there, that's just something I like
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PDT_027 Wow, that's quite a list. Thanks for that I'll check them out... might take me a while :lol:
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Check out Nevermore - This Godless Endeavour. Fantastic album...
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http://www.bnrmetal.com/
check out the top 10 lists on there, this site is GREAT, a proper encylopedia metallicus ;)
Some random 'OMG I LOVE THIS ALBUM' cd's that come to mind:
Jesu - Jesu
Agalloch - The Mantle
Sculptured - Spirit Of The Lilly Is Aureoled
Atheist - Elements
Immortal - At The Heart Of Winter
Deicide - Stench Of Redemption
In Flames - Jester Race
Darkthrone - A Blaze In The Northern Sky
Dark Tranquility - The Gallery
Nevermore - Enemies Of Reality
Windir - 1184 / Arntor, Ein Windir / Likferd
X Japan - Art Of Life
Sentenced - The Funeral Album
Depends what sort of lyrics you want, in metal theres everything from fantasy,religious,themed,angst,historical styles etc etc
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yeah some more that comes to mind:
Sentenced - Crimson
Sentenced - Down
Sentenced - The Cold White Light
Agalloch - Ashes Against The Grain
Agalloch - Pale Folklore
Angra - Fireworks
Angra - Holy Land
Avantasia - The Metal Opera pt. I
Avantasia - The Metal Opera pt. II
Ayreon - Into The Electric Castle
Children Of Bodom - Hate Crew Deathroll
Children Of Bodom - Follow The Reaper
Children Of Bodom - Hatebreeder
Exodus - Tempo Of The Damned
Exodus - Shovel Headed Kill Machine
Quo Vadis - Defiant Imagination
Tarot - Suffer Our Pleasures
Tarot - For The Glory Of Nothing
Tarot - Spell Of Iron
And btw, is Nevermore really good? I never really got into them, where should I start?
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I have to second the nevermore suggestion in particular, and add:
Straight up metal
Byzantine (their moto: "Beating the eyeliner off the face of metal")
Crowbar
DevilDriver
Soilwork
Lamb of God
Strapping Young Lad
The Haunted
Meshuggah
Death type stuff
Beneath the Massacre
Candlemass
Control Denied
Death
Cryptopsy
Gojira
Gorguts
Lykathea Aflame
Martyr
Necrophagist
Nile
Origin
Sleep Terror
Spawn of Possession
Suffocation
Textures
Vader
Vital Remains
At the Gates
Metalcore-ish (but good)
Despised Icon
Jonny Truant
Reflux
Unclassifiable.
Isis
Protest the Hero
Pelican
Mastodon
Pain of Salvation
Sikth
Honorable mention:
Pig Destroyer
Those would be some of my personal favourite new to new-ish heavy bands (tryin gnot to repeat any of the great suggestions so far)
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:D Pagans Mind - Enigmatic Calling [ imho the best Metal album of 2005]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yER_PTPJlhI
If you like 80`s style Metal then check out
Randy Pipers Animal - Violent New Bread
http://www.myspace.com/randypipersanimal
Or MIss Crazy - Miss Crazy
http://www.myspace.com/misscrazymusic
:D 8)
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Kepu, yeah Nevermore are great...
start with the remixed Enemies of Reality imo :)
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Personally i liked Dreaming Neon Black and This Godless Endeavor more than Enemies of Reality.
And yeah Pagan's Mind, one of the best bands around!
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I can't be bothered repeating everyone else's suggestions so I'll just mention a few that I don't think anyone else will. Persuader are one of my all time favourite bands, all three of their albums are great but the hunter is a bit more melodic, evolution purgatory is a bit thrashier and when eden burns is a bit more epic. Their website (http://www.persuader.nu) has a web radio with shitety quality versions of a few from all the albums. Sonata arctica are definitely worth a look if you like power metal at all, silence is probably their best album. Also, nobody's mentioned machine head yet, and I know they're not that recent but they weren't around in the 80s.
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Ensiferium (former band of the Wintersun vocalist i think. combine clean and growl-ish singing)
Korpiklaani (finnish folk metal band. they hands down rule. if you got a chance of seeing em in concert DO IT!)
Lordi (for the fun of it haha. i got 3 of their albums on friday and they're fun fun fun. easy listening, since it's just straight forward metal. no solos to speak of realy, but the songs are cool. all of them are done pretty much exactly the same way, but who cares hehe. great for parties)
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As for god like death metal bands:
Nocturnus
Edge of Sanity (Dan Swanö era)
Cynic
Pestilence
Sadist
Sadus (insane italian band)
In the challenging department :
Meshuggah (polyrythms to the extreme, listen to Destroy Erase Improve)
Fredrik Thordendal solo album (a more jazzy extention of Destroy Erase Improve, listen to the 1999 version)
Ephel Duath (A painter's palette : very jazzy/harcorish/madness and Pain Necessary to Know : more on the extreme free jazz/noise side)
Dilinger Escape Plan (Miss Machine : another jazz/hardcore/madness mix)
In the popish metalcore genre:
Killswitch Engage (easy mtv-like but honnest and fun, just watch their DVD, it's so funny!)
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Oh God no more Lordi........
It has gone WAY WAY WAY WAY too far in here Finland now when they won the eurovisions!!!!
down in the street every kid older than 3 are Lordi "fans", I just can't take it when 8 year-olds think they are metalheads when they listen nothing but Lordi... THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH REAL METAL
and the Lordi merchandise has got out of hand, there's Lordi Cola, at least 3 different Lordi books, fake Lordi-looking masks... Hell there's even Lordi candy!!!
C'MON PEOPLE WINNING EUROVISIONS ISNT THAT BIG THING!!!!
ehmmm.... sorry
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hahaha Lordi cola :lol:
By the way I don't class Lordi as metal.
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They are more in the clowns category, but that's really what they are :)
I think it's fun they won Eurovision, it was such a scandale here where anything remotly in relation with music is cr@p (we're maybe the worst country for that in europe)
It was bold to send such a crazy "band" like that to such a boring "music" event :D
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:D Dont knock Lordi
There helping keep the flame alive as did the Darkness. Yep your right they are overly image based but at least there keeping Metal on the map. If just one in every 20 people who like Lordi stick with Metal then thats more Metalheads to sell your albums to & remember they might start of as Lordi fans but they`ll branch into other parts of the Metal scene.
The question is are you guys & your bands ready ?
:D 8)
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If you were to only listen to one metal artist, it would be Strapping Young Lad/Devin Townsend Band (i said artist, not band).
Almost essential for the well rounded metalhead are:
Lamb of God
Byzantine
Gojira, they're "extreme metal"- but although all the elements are heavy the overall sound isn't that heavy to me. Very good songwriters.
And, yes it's a cliché- but revisit that Slipknot self titled album. (I persuaded myself that i didn't like slipknot or marilyn manson because they were what the 9 year old kids in hoodies liked. Since then i've got a grip and actually listened to their albums. And unfortunately for my street cred, they're damned good.)
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Great stuff :twisted: Thanks for all the replies guys I'm compiled quite a shopping list here. Already picked up Mastodon Blood Mountain, Opeth Ghost Reveries, and Meshuggah Destroy Erase Improve. 8)
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FWIW Blood Mountain is good but I still prefer Leviathan.
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FWIW Blood Mountain is good but I still prefer Leviathan.
I was going to get both but they only had the one, I'll have to order from Amazon :)
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And, yes it's a cliché- but revisit that Slipknot self titled album. (I persuaded myself that i didn't like slipknot or marilyn manson because they were what the 9 year old kids in hoodies liked. Since then i've got a grip and actually listened to their albums. And unfortunately for my street cred, they're damned good.)
It's a pain to say but I have to agree with that...
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Have a go at Meshugga Bird! Their $%&#in' mental! You need an 8 string for that though :twisted:
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hahaha Lordi cola :lol:
By the way I don't class Lordi as metal.
They drink that in the pubs in Stevenage "Biiiiicardeeee n' Lordi Coke innit'! :lol:
Only joking :wink:
You've got to agree with Jt, our Mr Wise! A band like Lordi is good for little 8 year olds and they will just get into everything from there.
Metal and Rock just won't F*ck Off as much as the nobs of this world would like it too! The fact that 'sheep' hate it cos it's 'just a lot of noisy cr@p' and 'That's not music' just makes kids get into it more anyway. I love that and think it's very entertaining! :D
I played my ex some Meshugga as she was banging on about how brilliant at music she is. (The ex was a classical music teacher) She played percussion in orchestras when she was younger so knew a fair bit about Polyrythyms. She was horrified, all she could say was 'Where's the tune?' I said just listen to these time signatures forget the rest. I detected jealousy cos these dudes from Sweden just tore her world apart! :lol:
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:D Christ i`m turning into Mr Myagi !!!
Metal is a broad church. It covers alot of styles & genres. The secret is to give a listen to all of `em & to try & keep an open mind. Thats a lot harder than it sounds. If you do that you get away from all this true/false metal cr@p. Its all valid even if its not your taste. I think this is one of the reasons Wacken Festival has been so successfull, it has a little of everybody over the course of 3 [ i think] days.
:D 8)
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I really like Mercenary's 11 Dreams, and Celtic Frost's Monotheist has knocked off Fates Warning's Awaken The Guardian from my 20 years no1 metal album spot.
Jan
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yeah no kidding
(http://www.olvi.fi/client-data/img/olvi_lordi-cola-0-5.jpg)
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Can't go wrong with a bit of Angra or Judas Priest.
But also look into
Biomechanical
To-Mera
Nevermore
Kreator
Death
Pantera
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I like Biomechanical too, I've got their The Empires Of The Worlds album and it's great! Sad to think that an awesome band like that probably won't be as successful as if they were from the US because there isn't enough support for UK metal bands.
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That's true. I've seen them live and i've seen both guitarists play at the London Music Show earlier this year and they ripped!
I find them more musical and more interesting than that other 'british metal band' Dragonforce. Dragonforce can play fast (repeatedly) but Biomechanical always seem to have new and exciting stuff about.
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I'm pretty damn pissed off at the moment because Exodus are coming for a club gig in here Finland with Biomechanical supporting them but I can't go because it's not for under 18 age because they're selling alcohol..... :shock:
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For the last 12 months or so I thought the vocalist in Biomechanical sounded like a mix of Rob Halford, Phil Anselmo and Geoff Tate.... I'm just looking on their website now and guess what? His 4 favourite singers are.....
Halford, Anselmo, Tate and Dickinson! I guess his influences really show in his work, bu they fit the band very well.
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The Album 'Resurection' by Rob Halford is my favourite metal album of all time! In years it'll go down as a classic.
It's his best work since classic Judas Preist stuff I think.
I recon Slipnot are a good one to check out, cos they're really unusual, agressive and wierd and funny all at the same time. They are good at mixing different styles together into one crazy sound. Great to watch live too! very funny.
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A surprising lack of love for Shadow's Fall here. The War Within is a fantastic metal album. I don't even like Cookie Monster vocals and I love it.
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Oh God no more Lordi........
It has gone WAY WAY WAY WAY too far in here Finland now when they won the eurovisions!!!!
down in the street every kid older than 3 are Lordi "fans", I just can't take it when 8 year-olds think they are metalheads when they listen nothing but Lordi... THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH REAL METAL
and the Lordi merchandise has got out of hand, there's Lordi Cola, at least 3 different Lordi books, fake Lordi-looking masks... Hell there's even Lordi candy!!!
C'MON PEOPLE WINNING EUROVISIONS ISNT THAT BIG THING!!!!
ehmmm.... sorry
hahahahahahahahaha
sorry... i feel for you man.
but their music is fun. and i never look into music and see.. wow, they're the big fad around, i got to listen to that stuff.. no, i listen to what i like and only what i like.. though my music taste is VERY broad.
stuff that's happening with lordy was to be expected.. but i dont thin anyone was thinking on such a big scale lol.. everybody trying to cash in on it.
anyway..
Communic - if noone mentioned them yet. in the same vein as Nevermore.. kicks ass musics
oh yea... and BUY the DethKlok album, once it's released!