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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: OD-Black_Fire on November 15, 2006, 08:22:32 PM

Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on November 15, 2006, 08:22:32 PM
I'm thinking about getting a 7 string for b tunning. I'm going for a tone like on Monotheist by Celtic Frost.  $%&#ing giant bass, like, ground shaking low end, thick mids and sharp but not too harsh high end, with gain that will make your rig sound like its about to blow up into a wave of feedback that will kill everything in sight but never actually does.  Overkill. I need the bass to be sergicaly tight. I want the bass to sound like its wrapping around the strings of my guitar and bounces right off the pick.  I'm sure some of you know what I'm talking about.

Now, I've heard that the ceramic warpig has that bone crushing low end and is very tight, but how tight is it to a EMG 81 or a Miracle Man?  Remember I'm going to be using it in E + low B tuning. Standard 7 string. I might drop it to A at times also.  I want it to be really tight.  The Miracle Man can probably tight enough but from the sound clips the low end isn't big enough. Comes of more like what you hear on Ride the Lightning by Metallica. I'm looking for Reign in Blood by slayer tight or a tight version of Korn. Zerstoren my Rammstein is another good example also. Darker and thicker than the MM.
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: MDV on November 15, 2006, 09:53:10 PM
Tight as a gnats chuff. Not that I've ever....moving on....

Utterly surgical, and unlike most other tight pickups, utterly brutal and utterly clear.

And I play mine in c# and drop b, 11, 15, 19, 33, 43, 60.

Its exactly what you need.
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: gingataff on November 16, 2006, 02:16:55 AM
Put it this way, I've never been bought a pint by one.
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: dave_mc on November 16, 2006, 11:30:57 AM
^  :cry:
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Tim on November 16, 2006, 02:54:41 PM
Quote
Put it this way, I've never been bought a pint by one.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on November 16, 2006, 09:09:48 PM
WHat that means Gigataff?
ahahah i didnīt get it ahahahahahah
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on November 16, 2006, 09:10:29 PM
Iīm affraid that iīll have to sell one of my 4 guitars to buy 2 Bridge Warpigs. ONe ceramic and one regular . ahahahahah
:(
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 16, 2006, 09:58:16 PM
Quote from: MDV
Tight as a gnats chuff. Not that I've ever....moving on....

Utterly surgical, and unlike most other tight pickups, utterly brutal and utterly clear.

And I play mine in c# and drop b, 11, 15, 19, 33, 43, 60.

Its exactly what you need.


Are they more brutal than a regular Warpig and in what way? I've got two ceramic pups already, so for my next project I thought the Alnico V might be more sort of organic. I want to de-tune down to C or C# too with that pawnshop Schecter Omen 6 and give it a pet name!
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: dave_mc on November 16, 2006, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: WITH FULL DISTORTION
WHat that means Gigataff?
ahahah i didnīt get it ahahahahahah


tight is british slang for being miserly with money.
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Mister Crowley on November 16, 2006, 11:29:25 PM
from the movie EuroTrip:
So I tell the swamp donkey to sock it before I give her a trunky in the tradesman's entrance and have her lick me yarbles!


Always wondered what that translated to  8)
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on November 17, 2006, 01:42:05 AM
Im Also Interesting in any info and some more soundclips with a tone similar with the ones i use(for comparison) of the Ceramic Warpig.
i liked gigataff clips. i like his tone.
q:P
thanks guys
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 17, 2006, 02:25:22 AM
Quote from: Mister Crowley
from the movie EuroTrip:
So I tell the swamp donkey to sock it before I give her a trunky in the tradesman's entrance and have her lick me yarbles!


Always wondered what that translated to  8)


Here goes....

So I tell the swamp donkey (ugly girl) to sock it (suck it?) before I give her a trunky (?) in the tradesman's entrance (place my penis in her anus) and have her lick me yarbles! (?... balls I would guess....)
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Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on November 17, 2006, 02:47:49 AM
Balls or @SS
ahahahahahahaha
Tushy Lickers.
AHhaHAhahahaa lol
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: MDV on November 18, 2006, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: MDV
Tight as a gnats chuff. Not that I've ever....moving on....

Utterly surgical, and unlike most other tight pickups, utterly brutal and utterly clear.

And I play mine in c# and drop b, 11, 15, 19, 33, 43, 60.

Its exactly what you need.


Are they more brutal than a regular Warpig and in what way? I've got two ceramic pups already, so for my next project I thought the Alnico V might be more sort of organic. I want to de-tune down to C or C# too with that pawnshop Schecter Omen 6 and give it a pet name!


If you want to go for the difference of A5 the WP is plenty brutal.

The difference is the proverbial tighter bas, sharper treble, smoother mids, it sounds overall more aggressive and attacking.
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: plastercaster on November 18, 2006, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: Mister Crowley
from the movie EuroTrip:
So I tell the swamp donkey to sock it before I give her a trunky in the tradesman's entrance and have her lick me yarbles!


Always wondered what that translated to  8)

Just type in google, whats the worst that could happen?
urban dictionary:
yarbles     
Another name for balls, norts or testicles. Originally comes from "A Clockwork Orange"

Swamp Donkey
A very ugly, usually fat girl who hangs around in bars and clubs waiting to sexually assault males who are too drunk to defend themselves.

Trademans entrance
the Arse

nothing on sock it or trunky though
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on November 18, 2006, 04:54:34 PM
This thread is actually two threads in one. Something Awful thread and BKP thread XD
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: HTH AMPS on November 18, 2006, 05:53:28 PM
All this talk of ceramic Warpigs has me yearning for one - I played my Miracle Man at rehersals into my Randall, this was the first time I'd heard it LOUD.  I must say it doesn't sound as BIG as the WP did and I really miss that.

I got rid of the WP as there was pretty much no chance of any clean from it - it just overdrives everything in sight.  The Miracle Man is much better on this score.

Which BKP is as PHAT as the WP but without being 'so' hot ????
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: MDV on November 18, 2006, 09:40:53 PM
Probably the painkiller
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Dakine on November 18, 2006, 09:48:11 PM
Painkiller  :twisted:
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 19, 2006, 09:14:31 AM
Thanks for the insight Mark!  :D My MM overdrives everthing i put it through HTH, but I love it and it sounds brutal through my Koch Powertone II very FFing loud! :twisted:  Those RY's i bought which are not in a guitar at the moment, were Fffing fantastic at lots of things. Not as much output as the new Painkillers but great all round sound. Proper sleazy filfy $%&#ers, or really  nice cleans or blues break up.
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: MDV on November 19, 2006, 06:17:35 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Thanks for the insight Mark!  :D My MM overdrives everthing i put it through HTH, but I love it and it sounds brutal through my Koch Powertone II very FFing loud! :twisted:  Those RY's i bought which are not in a guitar at the moment, were Fffing fantastic at lots of things. Not as much output as the new Painkillers but great all round sound. Proper sleazy filfy $%&#ers, or really  nice cleans or blues break up.


Mate, having got 2 miracle men and had a total of 3, I can tell you, the pig sounds much bigger and fuller. Its in the mid snarl  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

It'd sound savage through your koch.

Maaaaaaaaan, why'd they have to call it KOCH?

I hope Ive been pronouncing it wrong and its "kotch".
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 19, 2006, 06:22:33 PM
Man i would love to play with your Koch :lol:
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 19, 2006, 09:14:58 PM
One mention of me Koch and it all starts over again!  :lol:

The bloke who started making them is called Dolph Koch. As we British are renown for changing names to fit our sensiblitys it has taken on 'Kotch' as it's pronunciation. But there a Dutch firm and It's prenounced 'Kock'  :lol: The Dutch being loose, free and easy with this type of thing, they can't understand why we find it funny! When I first saw an advert for them I thought no way could i have an amp with that name on it. Then I had a go on one and I was sold!  :twisted:
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 19, 2006, 09:16:37 PM
So what string gauge would you have for C# or C and dropping the top 'E' Mark?  :twisted:
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: dave_mc on November 19, 2006, 09:52:19 PM
are you sure it's not pronounced "koch" (rhyming with scottish "loch")?

dunno any dutch, but being a germanic language they go all in for those breathy, phlegmy noises...
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: MDV on November 19, 2006, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
So what string gauge would you have for C# or C and dropping the top 'E' Mark?  :twisted:


For C# and drop B I use 11, 25, 19, 33, 43, 60.

Its a GHS boomer 11-53 set with a zakk wylde set 60 thrown in. I use the 60 to give that much more low end kick and keep it tight. I also play lead-y type stuff in riffs so I want the 4th and 5th to cut compared to the the heavy low string stuff.

For more conventional playing (as opposed to tech death metal) I'd go for 11-53, or similar.
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 20, 2006, 06:29:07 PM
11-60 sounds like fun to me!  :twisted:
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: MDV on November 21, 2006, 07:55:09 PM
It positively fukking growls at you  :twisted:
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 21, 2006, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: MDV
It positively fukking growls at you  :twisted:


I'm growling in anticipation! I wanna take it to band practise and plug into the Koch running on 4ohms with no attenuator, ultra low engaged, channel 2, 6-7 on the gain, stand in front of it and feel my nuts shake like Kerry King said in his Marshall quote!  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted: 'kin 'ave some!
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: MDV on November 21, 2006, 10:41:26 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: MDV
It positively fukking growls at you  :twisted:


I'm growling in anticipation! I wanna take it to band practise and plug into the Koch running on 4ohms with no attenuator, ultra low engaged, channel 2, 6-7 on the gain, stand in front of it and feel my nuts shake like Kerry King said in his Marshall quote!  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted: 'kin 'ave some!


That sounds DESTRUCTIVE.

Bare in mind, when I first started using the 60 on the legra (a guitar with a C-WP and a tone of natural bass) I backed the bass off on my screamer from 10, which wasnt giving enough with a normal WP in a fairly full sounding but not really heavy basswood/maple jackson, strung 11-53 (my previous heaviest sound), to 5: anything over that is too much!!!

With a high gain head and a closed back 4x12 and a powerfull BK in a modestly heavy guitar C#/C/drop B with a 60 on 6th will blow windows. Your bassist will wonder where his sound went 8)
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: BloodMountain on November 22, 2006, 10:58:22 PM
has anyone found a clip that sounds as good as these guys are describing it????? this is the EXACT tone i have been looking for... DESTRUCTIVE!!! :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: MDV on November 23, 2006, 08:10:48 PM
Just for the legra through a 4x12 (and 5150 mkII).

Crushing isnt the word. Dustructive might be. Imagine machine head on steroids.
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: BloodMountain on November 23, 2006, 08:21:20 PM
hell yeah!!! im getting me one of these! in burnt chrome to go with my guitars finish that im getting in about a week
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: MDV on November 23, 2006, 08:42:06 PM
You do right.

It was to show a mate what it sounds like. He was blown away, and he'll be buying one very shortly.

Clips are all well and good, but NO ONE can resist the power of a BK in person!
Title: Just how tight is the ceramic warpig?
Post by: BloodMountain on November 23, 2006, 09:52:37 PM
oooohhhhh... i can almost feel the power. it might be because i live in Devon, the same county that all BKPs come from!