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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: samoth2 on November 18, 2006, 08:49:50 AM

Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: samoth2 on November 18, 2006, 08:49:50 AM
Well, I decided getting a Wah instead of a Distortion pedal

But I never tried any Wahs so which ones are the best?

Thx in advance  :)
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Kilby on November 18, 2006, 11:11:51 AM
Well I'm a complete fool for the Vox
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: markofled on November 18, 2006, 11:40:47 AM
If you can afford them the best wah is probly the ZVEX WAH PROBE
The BUDDA BUDWAH is ment to be really good as well!
I had a VOX CLYDE MACCOY and didnt like it really nasty wen used clean.
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: HTH AMPS on November 18, 2006, 02:26:44 PM
I've been through the whole 'boutique wah' thing.  The BEST imo was the modded wah I got from Stuart Castledine (www.wah-wah.co.uk) but a 70s Jen Crybaby will get you 90% there for around £60 on ebay.

 :twisted:
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Canadian Steve on November 18, 2006, 07:32:06 PM
I've bought a number of wahs including a Dunlop Crybaby 535Q, then had the pedal modified by Stuart Castledine (wah-wah.co.uk) then bought a Boss V-Wah PW-10 and also used my Korg Ax-30 G wah.  I sold them all and finaly settled on a Teese wah, which I liked the best - a bit more vintage styled than the rest.  I would go for the Picture wah or they also do a custom one called a Wheels of Fire wah, which I ended up getting.  If you're on a budget, there's always the Dunlop Crybaby Original, which I heard a guy playing last night at the beer festival in Belfast!
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Elliot on November 18, 2006, 07:57:52 PM
I like my Ibanez Weeping Demon
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Dakine on November 18, 2006, 09:50:21 PM
Just bought a DB-01 CFH (again) but guess it's not ya 'normal' wah  :P
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: samoth2 on November 18, 2006, 09:56:34 PM
Well.. I should probably post the styles I play..

It will mostly be used for Hard Rock/ Metal, but it's always nice with some versatility ;)
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: samoth2 on November 18, 2006, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: Dakine
Just bought a DB-01 CFH (again) but guess it's not ya 'normal' wah  :P


As long as it sounds good it doesn't have to be a "normal" wah :D
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Antag on November 18, 2006, 10:58:13 PM
Morley Bad Horsie - best wah design ever & built like a tank.
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: samoth2 on November 18, 2006, 11:12:10 PM
Quote from: Antag
Morley Bad Horsie - best wah design ever & built like a tank.


I looked at it and it looks really great :)
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Antag on November 19, 2006, 08:36:20 AM
I like the switchless design - you stand on the pedal & it turns on, take your foot off & it turns off - foolproof (Antagproof even :))

Plus the pedal is spring loaded to be fully "back", so the first sound is an "upward" wah rather than the "downward" one you get from a crybaby.
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: samoth2 on November 19, 2006, 10:13:36 AM
But it's expensive to :(
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Antag on November 19, 2006, 10:54:13 AM
Not much (http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/vai-1/2473) more than the original (http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/crybaby/2455) crybaby & a good deal less (http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/dimebag/12204) than some of the other models.

You can even get a Bad Horsie II (http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/vai-2/2474) for less than that....
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: WezV on November 19, 2006, 11:05:48 AM
I have a vox and an original crybaby both set up with different sounds using some of the mods Stuart Castledine does, he has two pages, one that sells parts and modified wahs and one page that shows you how to do the mods yourself:

http://www.wah-wah.co.uk/

And

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/s.castledine/greenfuz/wah.html

I hated wah pedals untill i did some of these mods!  Increasing the size of the sweep and doing the vocal mod really makes the wah easier to use and a lot less quacky.  Its really cheap to buy a basic vox or crybay and a handfull of resistors and stuff then experiment to find the sound you want!
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: samoth2 on November 19, 2006, 11:32:08 AM
I don't  think I got the guts, or skills, to start modding it myself :)
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: carlaz on November 20, 2006, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
I've been through the whole 'boutique wah' thing.  The BEST imo was the modded wah I got from Stuart Castledine (www.wah-wah.co.uk)

What did you get him to do?  I've been eyeing his site for a long time, as I've got an old Thomas Organ Crybaby which used to sound great but which now sounds very, very sick (and not in a good way).  I think the pots are, basically, screwed.  

Being technically hopeless, I have no intention of screwing around with replacing them myself. :) But if I'm going to try to get this bloke to do the repair, I'm thinking about trying to jazz me ol' wah up in other ways (it already has a true bypass mod in it).  Hard to say how I might want to change the sound, since it's just been sitting in a closet for 6 or 7 years since its tone went to hell, but perhaps some added fiddly knobs for tweaking the Q, the sweep?

Anyway, what kind of mods did you get?  How did they work out?
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: HTH AMPS on November 24, 2006, 12:13:49 AM
Quote from: carlaz
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL

I've been through the whole 'boutique wah' thing.  The BEST imo was the modded wah I got from Stuart Castledine (www.wah-wah.co.uk)

What did you get him to do?  I've been eyeing his site for a long time, as I've got an old Thomas Organ Crybaby which used to sound great but which now sounds very, very sick (and not in a good way).  I think the pots are, basically, screwed.  

Being technically hopeless, I have no intention of screwing around with replacing them myself. :) But if I'm going to try to get this bloke to do the repair, I'm thinking about trying to jazz me ol' wah up in other ways (it already has a true bypass mod in it).  Hard to say how I might want to change the sound, since it's just been sitting in a closet for 6 or 7 years since its tone went to hell, but perhaps some added fiddly knobs for tweaking the Q, the sweep?

Anyway, what kind of mods did you get?  How did they work out?


I told Stuart I wanted a 'thick' wah tone - very old school Hendrix and 'that' croak.  he winds his own inductors so you can get them tweaked to taste.  He sent me the PCB with the inductor installed and I just installed it into a spare Wah case I had.

Your old Thomas Organ wah will most likely just need repaired rather than modded - should be able to resurrect that baby, they are the benchmark wah tone.

 :twisted:
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: carlaz on November 24, 2006, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
Your old Thomas Organ wah will most likely just need repaired rather than modded - should be able to resurrect that baby, they are the benchmark wah tone. :twisted:

Yeah, I bought it second-hand for relatively cheap (like USD 60-80 or something) when I was just starting out and scarecely appreciated how good it sounded until it died and I replaced it for general use with a new off-the-shelf wah.  I mean, the new one (a JH-1) sounds OK, but just doesn't quite have that responsiveness and tone that you really look for in a wah ....

Right, this weekend I've got to haul out the old T.Organ, dust it off and take a look at it, and send an email to Stuart! :)
Title: Best Wah
Post by: greeny on November 24, 2006, 08:19:13 PM
I am also a Wah Virgin and spent last weekend testing a number of different models.

The one I finaly went with was the Dunlop CryBaby Classic which had a good vintage vibe and sounded good clean and distorted.  It was close between this and the Budda Wah, I liked the Budda just as much but the Dunlop was £35 cheaper so that won the day.
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: HTH AMPS on November 24, 2006, 10:49:42 PM
Quote from: carlaz

Right, this weekend I've got to haul out the old T.Organ, dust it off and take a look at it, and send an email to Stuart! :)


I would normally offer to fix it for you myself but Stuart is THE wah man on these shores.

 :twisted:
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: j_d_m_2006 on November 25, 2006, 04:11:10 AM
Anybody recommend the Ibanez WD7 Weeping Demon wah pedal? Thinking about purchasing one very, very soon!
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: greham on November 25, 2006, 04:05:57 PM
I have a wah cry baby original, and the sound is too vintage and muddy, I think to buy a morley, for a more modern and cold sound.
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: samoth2 on November 25, 2006, 04:07:01 PM
Quote from: j_d_m_2006
Anybody recommend the Ibanez WD7 Weeping Demon wah pedal? Thinking about purchasing one very, very soon!


Elliot said: I like my Ibanez Weeping Demon :P

So you could mail him and ask.
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: carlaz on December 05, 2006, 12:26:15 PM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
Stuart is THE wah man on these shores. :twisted:

Hmm, have you (or has anyone) got a contact email for Stuart?  I tried contacting him through the form on the wah-wah.co.uk web site, but it just coughed and died with a CGI error, so I haven't been able to get through. :P
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on December 14, 2006, 01:32:39 AM
ok these are the best!

www.realmccoycustom.com get the RMC3! very expensive but it's hand made, noiseless, true bypass and has the richest, fattest, sweetest wha sound you've ever heard man. I'm still in awe after I bought one, it was worth every penny, mine cost me £192 including postage, but it sounds nicer than anything out there.

This is a handmade wha pedal made by Geoffrey Teese, who is a wha expert and modded whas for people like Frank Zappa and Stevie Ray Vaughn back in the day.

The company is called Real Mc-coy Custom, hence RMC.

trust me or not trust me cos someone is only gonna try n tell u otherwise, but it's deception. Dont listen to poeple who try and tell you cry baby are the best, because they havent tried them all and I have. So I'm telling you through a lot of experience mate.

This is only my opinion though.

later,

Ben.
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: samoth2 on December 14, 2006, 07:49:31 AM
192£  :o

I'm just a teen :D
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: carlaz on December 14, 2006, 08:54:39 AM
I like what I've heard of the Teese wahs -- I think the Wizard wah would do me, if I had the cash handy.  That said, I'd just as soon get me ol' Thomas wah repaired, though I haven't had much luck contacting Stuart Castledine.  Maybe it's just the holiday season, or maybe he's dropped off the face of the earth .....  :?
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Simon D on December 14, 2006, 01:42:01 PM
Quick warning - If you are looking for something with a big sweep; i.e a big tonal variation through the movement of the pedal, then avoid the Morley Mark Tremonti model, the sweep is really narrow.

The Dunlop Zakk Wylde model has a massive sweep. Just depends what you're after really.
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: indysmith on December 14, 2006, 10:04:33 PM
steve's selling a Budwah in the seconds out forum - £80, very good deal. I'd take it myself if i had the cash to spend
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Simon D on December 14, 2006, 10:21:25 PM
^ So would I! Sadly I have to sell my Morley before I can even consider spending yet more on another wah pedal.  :(
Title: Wah Pedal
Post by: Mr Ed on December 18, 2006, 01:15:46 PM
I have a Dunlop Crybaby From Hell - it's absolutely brilliant because it has a number of controls for altering the sound to perfectly suit you - you choose the range, the tow-down position and all sorts of jazz... plus it has an onboard boost feature which is great.

Sturdy as hell too, you will not break it.