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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 09:14:27 PM

Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 09:14:27 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Very-rare-80s-USA-Schecter-guitar-jackson-Charvel_W0QQitemZ290053151641QQihZ019QQcategoryZ33043QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Designed by Wayne Charvel, made in USA.

Sounds good, very nice price at the mo.

Though i don't think it is as nice as the Charvel.

Edit: I win!
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Philly Q on November 27, 2006, 09:32:44 PM
It certainly looks like a genuine Schecter, all the hardware etc is correct.  I would guess someone has completely stripped the finish.

No idea what the value would be though!
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 09:47:53 PM
Well it's bloody cheap, only just 100 quid!

I think i might bid.

Speak now if you object!
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 09:49:54 PM
Well i won!

Don't know if it is any good though!
Title: Congrats!
Post by: shakman on November 27, 2006, 09:52:06 PM
well done on getting the new axe crazy_joe. looks like you got a bargain to me. if it's any good you'll need to change your signature to: "I endorse: Tokai - Laney - Marshall - Dunlop - Schecter"  :)
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: indysmith on November 27, 2006, 09:52:21 PM
i'm going to milton keynes soon to pick up my jcm800 from its sevice at the factory - want me to try it out for ya? :P
nice win btw - love that finish.
intresting trem - anyone know what that is?
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 09:54:22 PM
lol 107 quid, i'm laughing at that.

Yeah indy if you want, give it a trial! And decided the BKP adventure!
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Davey on November 27, 2006, 10:00:59 PM
mighty fine axe for little money is what i say.

though i dislike the pup config.

it's got one pickup too many :D


but congrats dude!
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 10:05:53 PM
This will get BKP'd soonish i would think.
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on November 27, 2006, 10:09:21 PM
Quote from: Davey
though i dislike the pup config.

it's got one pickup too many :D


FINALLY somebody who thinks along the same lines as me :D

nice guitar though, i like the plain wood finish :D looks like it needs a painkiller in there \m/
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 10:17:14 PM
To be honest i didn't really care about the pup config on any of the guitars i have been looking at lol

I'm surprised so many people like the finish, i didn't think it was that good tbh.
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Davey on November 27, 2006, 10:17:50 PM
mmm, painkiller/trilogy

probably going to be the next pup combo i am going to buy
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 10:18:44 PM
Quote from: indysmith
i'm going to milton keynes soon to pick up my jcm800 from its sevice at the factory - want me to try it out for ya? :P
nice win btw - love that finish.
intresting trem - anyone know what that is?


It is a Schecter locking tremelo.
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: Davey
mmm, painkiller/trilogy

probably going to be the next pup combo i am going to buy


Sounds good to me!

I have been craving the Painkiller too.
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Davey on November 27, 2006, 10:21:55 PM
now you're giving me even more gas for another superstrat!!!
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 10:23:09 PM
There is a very nice Charvel on ebay which Feline is bidding on :lol: at £150 at the mo.
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 10:25:15 PM
OMG i just noticed i can now get a battle worn pickup cover :D:D:D:D:D
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 27, 2006, 10:32:51 PM
I just noticed the tremelo has not got been routed, does that mean it won't go up and will only go down for dive bombing? or am i just being retarded?
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Philly Q on November 27, 2006, 11:17:52 PM
I reckon you've got a nice little bargain there!  

Quote from: Crazy_Joe
I just noticed the tremelo has not got been routed, does that mean it won't go up and will only go down for dive bombing? or am i just being retarded?

I'm not at all sure, but I think the Schecter trem was designed to sit flat on the body.  It has a knife-edge at the front of the bridge which doesn't look like it would allow for a huge range of movement.  I found a picture of one:

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/schecter-trem.jpg)
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: indysmith on November 28, 2006, 07:50:27 AM
have yu ever had a trem guitar? if you had the option of pulling up on the trem i doubt yu'd hardly EVER use it - i only use it for stretching strings :P oh - and making motorcycle noises
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Philly Q on November 28, 2006, 09:06:53 AM
I'm not fond of trems because I don't like the way the guitar loses sustain when you drop the pitch, but when I've owned them in the past I used to like pulling up on the bar because it increases sustain.  I agree it's not all that useful though...

It's nice to have the unit floating a bit so you can shake the bar for a nice gentle vibrato without it clonking on the body.
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on November 28, 2006, 02:02:09 PM
Nice guitar.

I know that Wayne did repair work for Dave Schechter WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back in the day, like 1971.

I am unaware of Wayne doing any design work for Schechter in the 80s or 90s, which is clearly when this guitar was designed, as it's a post-Jackson guitar design.

Can you give more details about this "Wayne Charvel" designed Schechter?
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 28, 2006, 02:41:43 PM
No, i know nothing about it, i want to know what wood it is!

Also if i route out a hole then the trem would go up right?

I want it to go up because i need to do gargles and those huge harmonic thingys.
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Philly Q on November 28, 2006, 03:08:52 PM
I reckon it may be ash, although it's not very highly figured (as I said before, it looks to me like the finish has been stripped).

I've been trying to find out about these guitars, and there seems to be very little info anywhere!  I think the Wayne Charvel theory is just a mistake.  They seem to sell pretty cheap, so I think they must have been some kind of budget range.  Not entry-level stuff though, the hardware's good quality.  The original headstock logo would have said "Strategy", not Schecter.

Whatever, for £125 it has to be a bargain.  :D
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 28, 2006, 03:16:41 PM
It is still USA made though right?
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Davey on November 28, 2006, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
I'm not fond of trems because I don't like the way the guitar loses sustain when you drop the pitch

only when you do a complete dive bomb.

listen to my clip on the players room, i could do that bit, after the main riff for hours, literaly
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 28, 2006, 03:39:32 PM
some stuff on the schecter strategy on hormony central

http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar/product/Schecter/Strategy/10/1
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 28, 2006, 03:42:49 PM
Do you think this guitar had a schecter plate on the back once?

Schecter's website says they can try identify pre '89 guitars if you show them pics of headstock & the plate's serial number.
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Philly Q on November 28, 2006, 03:44:50 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
It is still USA made though right?

Dunno.  I read that they may have been made by Godin in Canada (edit: that's from the Harmony Central link Jonathan has posted above).

Quote from: Davey
listen to my clip on the players room, i could do that bit, after the main riff for hours, literaly

I'll check it out tonight when I get home from work Davey!
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 28, 2006, 03:48:44 PM
I think it is a Maple body and neck, as that what he says on description and both neck and body woods look the same.

As long as it sounds good and isn't poorly made i don't mind.
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Philly Q on November 28, 2006, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
Do you think this guitar had a schecter plate on the back once?

No, I suppose they must be referring to guitars with bolt-on necks.  All their early guitars were sort of luxury versions of Strats and Teles, a bit like Tom Andersons now (Anderson's a former Schecter employee, I think).

Quote
As long as it sounds good and isn't poorly made i don't mind.

Honestly, at that price it can't be a bad deal.  When you started this thread last night I was very tempted to bid on it myself, but that would have been unfair!  :wink:
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 28, 2006, 04:04:05 PM
:p haha yeah, but i'm sure there will be another one 1 day... 8)
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: indysmith on November 28, 2006, 04:39:40 PM
from HC -"I took the guitar home, stripped off the horrible blue paint, and refinished the gorgeous ash body that was lurking underneath." hmmm -sounds familiar?
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 28, 2006, 04:51:06 PM
If it was ash the wood would look different to the neck wood, however in this case it looks the same on both neck and body, and i don't think you make necks out of ash so it has to be maple.

That's my theory anyway, which review is that?
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 28, 2006, 04:51:57 PM
Neck seems to be glued in on these models

May indeed be Godin made as they have huge stocks of maple

Heres a piccy of another that was on ebay a while back
(http://www.rickunpix.com/usedrockgear/strag-4.jpg)
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Davey on November 28, 2006, 04:56:23 PM
gorgeous!!!
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 28, 2006, 09:55:04 PM
Indeed it is!
Title: Bought An 80's Schecter
Post by: Philly Q on November 29, 2006, 01:10:27 AM
Quote from: Davey
Quote from: Philly Q
I'm not fond of trems because I don't like the way the guitar loses sustain when you drop the pitch

only when you do a complete dive bomb.

listen to my clip on the players room, i could do that bit, after the main riff for hours, literaly

Now I see what you mean!  Point taken!  :twisted: