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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Davey on December 05, 2006, 08:32:18 PM

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: Davey on December 05, 2006, 08:32:18 PM

me and a friend've been talking (he's buying an all tube head... cos he spent a while at my place the other day hehe.. got gas BAD!)

and came up to which speakers would be good..

some celestions are now being made in china.. which ones are those? i know they're making V30's overseas. what are the other models?


also, what are the alternatives. i know eminence, but that's it.. some suggestions would be nice.

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: stuckin93 on December 05, 2006, 08:46:51 PM

what would be classed as the best speaker all depends on the the part of the audio spectrum you want highlighting. and what music style there for.

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: Davey on December 05, 2006, 09:47:04 PM

not realy looking for the best speaker.. just what speaker brands are out there, cos honestly, apart of celestions and eminence speakers i got no clue =P

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: dave_mc on December 05, 2006, 10:27:17 PM

celestion (chinese ones are anything not heritage or alnico, far as i know)
eminence
weber
jensen
fane
tone tubby

probably some more, too. I think those are the main ones, though.

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: Davey on December 05, 2006, 10:36:48 PM

thanks dave

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: dave_mc on December 05, 2006, 11:51:33 PM

no problem.

:drink:

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: shaman on December 21, 2006, 12:06:54 PM

check out a thiele mesa boogie cab loaded with a 1x12 EV-I am amazed at how powerful this mother is-I just got  one for my mark-it is a small,heavy ported cab--I A/B'd with a 4/12 Boogie cab-the powerful bass response made it difficult to tell the difference-the EV speaker is the Key(electrovoice)EVM 12L-its a 200watt monster that handles bass-no flubbing/mud/farting out-of course, it doesnt break up like a celestion-Its a monster and a great alternative to lugging around a 4/12--I have a 4/12 with vintage cel. greenbacks in it as well-no comparison when it comes to modern rock/metal-the thiele rules!!!!!

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: Mr Ed on December 21, 2006, 12:27:11 PM

Vintage 30's = Perfection.

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: dave_mc on December 21, 2006, 05:49:27 PM

^ i wouldn't go that far...

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: Twinfan on December 21, 2006, 11:34:38 PM

^ I would!

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: HTH AMPS on December 21, 2006, 11:50:10 PM

don't know what difference being made in China makes, but anyway...

only the Alnico G12 and Heritage series are made in the UK.

V30s are great speakers but I tend to favour them when using lots of gain - for vintage rock & blues you can't beat G12Ms and G12Hs.

 :twisted:

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on December 23, 2006, 02:55:20 PM

From my experience Jensens sound like the best speakers. I used to have a Jensen C12N in my Blonde Fender Deluxe which I no longer own. It made the amp come alive, and it was miles better sounding than a standard Fender Deluxe 1x12, mainly cos of the speaker.

There are many different models, so choose one that complements the amp and guitar sound most of all.

cheers.

Ben.

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: fps_dean on December 24, 2006, 06:17:16 AM

Quote from: Mr Ed

Vintage 30's = Perfection.

No, Classic Leads = perfection. V30s are too thin sounding often...

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: Elliot on December 29, 2006, 11:54:40 AM

check this out from Watford valves for reviews of different Celestion and Jensen speakers:

https://www.watfordvalves.com/cgi-bin/documents/testreport_40.pdf

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: fps_dean on January 01, 2007, 08:37:33 AM

Quote from: Elliot

check this out from Watford valves for reviews of different Celestion and Jensen speakers:

https://www.watfordvalves.com/cgi-bin/documents/testreport_40.pdf

Interesting...  I totally disagree with one thing there, which is the Classic Leads not being as smooth as G12Hs... and they also failed to mention that while V30s may have tight lows, the main reason for that is that the lows are so quiet they are almost non-existent with many amps.

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: Twinfan on January 01, 2007, 02:33:29 PM

Quote from: fps_dean

... and they also failed to mention that while V30s may have tight lows, the main reason for that is that the lows are so quiet they are almost non-existent with many amps.

Except on Laneys   :twisted:

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: fps_dean on January 02, 2007, 01:07:23 AM

Quote from: Twinfan

Quote from: fps_dean

... and they also failed to mention that while V30s may have tight lows, the main reason for that is that the lows are so quiet they are almost non-existent with many amps.

Except on Laneys   :twisted:

What are you talking about? Especially with Laneys!!! :)

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: JamesHealey on January 02, 2007, 10:12:06 AM

I currently have Eminence Governors and im planning on x-patterning them with either Private Jacks or G12H-30's depending on if the people i've orderd from can deliver the Private Jacks..

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: BigK on January 02, 2007, 11:02:08 PM

All about celestion G12K - 100's Pure metal Baby  :twisted:

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: Davey on January 02, 2007, 11:08:42 PM

ok, lets go a bit further..


which can be had in europe, for about the same price that celestions go AND are not made in some part of asia.

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: dave_mc on January 02, 2007, 11:39:00 PM

^ eminence?

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: Davey on January 02, 2007, 11:44:26 PM

thanks again :D

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: PhilKing on January 03, 2007, 12:17:10 PM

Hi Davey, last night we were running TO's Splawn through an open back Avatar cab with 2 Eminence Tonespotters and got a great sound.  Having said that, my cab for the Mini-Mat has a heritage G12M in it, but that is because the Mini-Mat likes the 20w speaker.  I tried lots of other ones at Matamp and the G12M was best (but the heritage not the regular one).  Jensen's are made in Italy so you should be able to get them in Europe too. Some of them sound very good (Matamp had a couple in demo cabs).

Happy New Year

Title: Speakers in general
Post by: fps_dean on January 05, 2007, 03:35:54 AM

Quote from: Davey

ok, lets go a bit further..


which can be had in europe, for about the same price that celestions go AND are not made in some part of asia.

Eminence...

And they offer the entire Celestion line, only renamed as well....

I have had quality issues with them in the past however, but I haven't even seen a newer Eminence speaker in my life.