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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Eric on December 16, 2006, 11:05:37 PM

Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Eric on December 16, 2006, 11:05:37 PM
This guitar is borderline perfect. All you have to do is kick the EMG's to the curb and you're all set. :mrgreen: Sevenstring.org is in a feeding frenzy over it and I am gassing for one bad.

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1861/2825af0.jpg)

Specs

Set Neck
26.5" Scale
Ash body
Maple Board
Black 'metal cross' inlays
EMG 707s
Original Floyd Rose trem
Vampire Red Satin Finish
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: indysmith on December 16, 2006, 11:14:18 PM
it certainly is strangely alluring. I suck at 7 strings though. Bring out a 6 string version without the tacky inlays and i might be more inclined...
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Philly Q on December 17, 2006, 01:46:55 AM
Does anyone make direct replacements for those weird-shaped EMGs though?  You're looking at some significant woodwork there to fit something different.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Eric on December 17, 2006, 02:31:54 AM
Quote from: Philly Q
Does anyone make direct replacements for those weird-shaped EMGs though?  You're looking at some significant woodwork there to fit something different.


I heard somewhere that Frets on the Net (http://www.fretsonthenet.com/) makes rings that will allow regular pickups to fit.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Philly Q on December 17, 2006, 11:11:48 AM
Quote from: Eric
I heard somewhere that Frets on the Net (http://www.fretsonthenet.com/) makes rings that will allow regular pickups to fit.

Haven't seen that site before.  He makes some cool stuff.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: BloodMountain on December 17, 2006, 11:53:23 AM
nice guitar! it tempts me...
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: gingataff on December 17, 2006, 11:59:49 AM
I saw a really nice 7 string today made by Combat guitars (I can't find a pic of this model to show you though) it's a 24 fret set neck all satin finish natural coloured semi-acoustic tele-shaped beast. Stunning :D
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: nfe on December 17, 2006, 12:51:17 PM
Ooohh, fingers crossed we'll see some of them in the shop for a shot...
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Davey on December 17, 2006, 01:28:38 PM
ok, this is completely unexpected..


maple board and single volume, wow, i didnt think the coolness scale of loomis could rise any further, but the man never ceases to amaze me.

good one jeff!!!
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 17, 2006, 01:31:20 PM
Jeff Loomis is god

That guitar $%&#ing rules!! Maple board!!
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 05:19:22 PM
What is it with you guys and maple boards  :?  :roll:  :?:  
I'm sat there thinking "pretty cool except for the maple board"
Oh, and Loomis is FAR from godlike status.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Davey on December 17, 2006, 05:20:38 PM
what the hell are you drinking? :shock:


please tell me, so i stay away from that stuff!
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 05:47:50 PM
On the maple boards front or the Loomis front?
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Davey on December 17, 2006, 05:52:35 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
On the maple boards front or the Loomis front?


how about both?  8)
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 17, 2006, 05:58:04 PM
:lol: +1!
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 06:12:13 PM
On the Maple Boards issue, I just don't get it. Cosmetically I prefer a darker board, and playing wise and tonally. But for some reason lately you guys are like OMFG KEWL!!!!!!!! everytime you see a piece of maple, regardless of any of the guitars other features (and someone also mentioned one of my other peeves, the single control  :evil: )
 As for Nevermore, I find their music intensely boring, and Loomis is a skilled yet uninspiring player. There is much more to lead playing than playing a load of fast arpeggios with the same rhythm figure.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: maliciousteve on December 17, 2006, 06:18:35 PM
Loomis isn't always like that. His solo to Tomorrow Turned Into Yesterday is one of the best solos i've ever heard, it sends chills down my spine, like the solo to Pink Floyds Comfortably Numb. He can be a very tasteful player. But I happen to love Nevermore.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Davey on December 17, 2006, 06:26:36 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
On the Maple Boards issue, I just don't get it. Cosmetically I prefer a darker board, and playing wise and tonally. But for some reason lately you guys are like OMFG KEWL!!!!!!!! everytime you see a piece of maple, regardless of any of the guitars other features (and someone also mentioned one of my other peeves, the single control  :evil: )
 As for Nevermore, I find their music intensely boring, and Loomis is a skilled yet uninspiring player. There is much more to lead playing than playing a load of fast arpeggios with the same rhythm figure.


#1
i love maple.. there arent enough maple boarded guitars today in production (fenders aside), so maple = total win!!!

#2
single volume = the ONLY and i mean ONLY way to go for metal. not only you dont need the tone control, it dulls the tone somewhat

#3
loomis = god .. only word to describe someone that landed an audition for megadeth at 16, and got turned down, cos it would make dave look bad, getting his ass handed over to him by a teenager.. so he got marty friedman instead LOL
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 06:36:25 PM
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#2
single volume = the ONLY and i mean ONLY way to go for metal. not only you dont need the tone control, it dulls the tone somewhat

Um, NO!!!!!!!! We had this conversation on the tech forum and the general concensus was that any difference is probably less than your ear can detect. ANYWAY there is a whole world of metal that isn't just about mid cut high gain bridge pickup palm muted chugging, where a tone control can be pretty useful for your lead playing, and most players over 22 are likely to need one at some point. My biggest peeve with the one tone control issue, is that if you don't want a tone control then it's the work of about 30 seconds to disconnect it and it won't affect the resale value of your guitar, but it requires a pillar drill, the purchase of £10-£15 worth of parts, risk to your finish, and dramatic depreciation of your guitar's value to fit one.  :x
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: MDV on December 17, 2006, 06:41:59 PM
I dont like the headstock, but other than that thats a really nice guitar. I love the choice of scale.

And loomis is a phenomenal player, I'll have you know! Hes quite capable of putting out malmsteen and becker typw shred, but as davey says, plays tastefully a lot of the time. Hes a well practiced player thats got bags of technique that never sounds like hes just running through scales or exercises (*cough*petrucci*cough*).

I keep hearing he's doing a solo album....anyone heard anything on that?
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 17, 2006, 07:06:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCZKYoaOBBc

I don't think i'll ever be able to play that.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Davey on December 17, 2006, 07:41:34 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
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#2
single volume = the ONLY and i mean ONLY way to go for metal. not only you dont need the tone control, it dulls the tone somewhat

Um, NO!!!!!!!! We had this conversation on the tech forum and the general concensus was that any difference is probably less than your ear can detect. ANYWAY there is a whole world of metal that isn't just about mid cut high gain bridge pickup palm muted chugging, where a tone control can be pretty useful for your lead playing, and most players over 22 are likely to need one at some point. My biggest peeve with the one tone control issue, is that if you don't want a tone control then it's the work of about 30 seconds to disconnect it and it won't affect the resale value of your guitar, but it requires a pillar drill, the purchase of £10-£15 worth of parts, risk to your finish, and dramatic depreciation of your guitar's value to fit one.  :x


tech forum or no, there is an audible diference. i dont need it, i dont want it, it looks ugly, when there's more knobs on the guitar than you need and i am glad they arent puting one up on there.

besides, dont try to insult me with the stupid mid cut high gain comments.
i never needed the tone control, and i dont see me needing/wanting one in the near future. so i am very glad that there are guitars (production guitars) without the stupid tone control
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Davey on December 17, 2006, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: MDV

I keep hearing he's doing a solo album....anyone heard anything on that?

indeed .. though it's been talked about for well over a year now.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 08:09:32 PM
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besides, dont try to insult me with the stupid mid cut high gain comments.

Don't make stupid absolute statements then  :roll: If one control is the only way to go then why do so many of the biggest names in metal guitar have tone controls?
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And loomis is a phenomenal player, I'll have you know! Hes quite capable of putting out malmsteen and becker typw shred, but as davey says, plays tastefully a lot of the time. Hes a well practiced player thats got bags of technique that never sounds like hes just running through scales or exercises (*cough*petrucci*cough*).

A) I said he was skillfull, I just think his soloing is pretty uninspiring. Indeed, for me it's Loomis who sounds like he's stringing together a load of exercises.
B) Your comments about Petrucci are about 15 miles of the mark. Indeed, he is a player who makes great use of varied technique, syncopations and outside notes, and can play with a ton of feel. Yes, his EXTREMELY high speed sections sound somewhat scalar, but then most ultra high speed sections do as there's a limit to how much movement you can achieve at those speeds.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Davey on December 17, 2006, 08:16:51 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
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besides, dont try to insult me with the stupid mid cut high gain comments.

Don't make stupid absolute statements then  :roll: If one control is the only way to go then why do so many of the biggest names in metal guitar have tone controls?


i can name a pretty big bunch that dont use a tone control too. also, if they have a knob on the guitar, doesnt mean they actualy use it. or have it connected for that matter.

and then why have it on the guitar in the first place, if you dont have it conected. but not everyone can afford a custom guitar, or has a sig series.



so... whatever. i still think the tone control is obsolete, no matter what anybody else thinks. and it does dull the high frequencies a bit.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2006, 08:17:18 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
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besides, dont try to insult me with the stupid mid cut high gain comments.

Don't make stupid absolute statements then  :roll: If one control is the only way to go then why do so many of the biggest names in metal guitar have tone controls?
Quote
And loomis is a phenomenal player, I'll have you know! Hes quite capable of putting out malmsteen and becker typw shred, but as davey says, plays tastefully a lot of the time. Hes a well practiced player thats got bags of technique that never sounds like hes just running through scales or exercises (*cough*petrucci*cough*).

A) I said he was skillfull, I just think his soloing is pretty uninspiring. Indeed, for me it's Loomis who sounds like he's stringing together a load of exercises.
B) Your comments about Petrucci are about 15 miles of the mark. Indeed, he is a player who makes great use of varied technique, syncopations and outside notes, and can play with a ton of feel. Yes, his EXTREMELY high speed sections sound somewhat scalar, but then most ultra high speed sections do as there's a limit to how much movement you can achieve at those speeds.


I think someone has had one too many plum blossoms  :?
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 08:54:02 PM
Was that just an extremely oblique comment or do we know each other Bird?
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2006, 09:00:23 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
Was that just an extremely oblique comment or do we know each other Bird?


Not so much "oblique"  closer to  sarcasm  :wink:
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: dave_mc on December 17, 2006, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCZKYoaOBBc

I don't think i'll ever be able to play that.


that was awesome. :drink:
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 09:01:53 PM
Aha, I do know your Sensei it seems  8)
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2006, 09:03:51 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
Aha, I do know your Sensei it seems  8)
 
There are 3 Kyokushin schools here if that's what you're refering to. Which one do you know  :?:
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 09:07:23 PM
I prefer this one for betcha can't play this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YUeRY5KM-c&NR
The bonus Flamenco bit is uber cool too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK-iRlQ6OUc&mode=related&search=
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 09:08:07 PM
That many? I know Diego
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2006, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
That many? I know Diego


He's the one  :lol: Too funny. Do you want me to say "Hi"
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Davey on December 17, 2006, 09:21:08 PM
like the flamenco stuff better.. the rest sounds good, till he gets to the sweeps, which compared to loomis sound horrible and hella sloppy
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 17, 2006, 09:22:47 PM
Yeah, I haven't seen him in years though, not since he was at the Green Dragon place. I'm Sifu Niel's English student ;)
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 17, 2006, 09:25:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkpZ645ztl0

Chris Broderick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRCT_FgSAGs&mode=related&search=

The amazing Gus G

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj5iD__lX04&mode=related&search=

And Michael Romeo

These rule the Betcha Can't Play This series.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Davey on December 17, 2006, 09:31:37 PM
broderick is a SICK SICK player.


but i must say, i kinda like his classical renditions quite better than his shred stuff, which is amazing in it's own right.
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Eric on December 17, 2006, 10:06:38 PM
OK after watching this thread almost get hijacked I'll add my two cents worth. :D

Loomis is awesome a great player. Then again so is Petrucci. I like both of them an awful lot.

Maple fingerboards are sweet. I wish more manufacturers would use them. In general I think there's way too many guitars with rosewood boards.

The Loomis model is an almost  perfect metal guitar. It's simple and it should rock like a mofo. Of course if it had passive pickups so it would be easier to put in some BKPs it'd be perfect. :mrgreen:
Title: Jeff Loomis Signature Model
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2006, 10:22:51 PM
Quote from: Eric
OK after watching this thread almost get hijacked I'll add my two cents worth. :D

Loomis is awesome a great player. Then again so is Petrucci. I like both of them an awful lot.

Maple fingerboards are sweet. I wish more manufacturers would use them. In general I think there's way too many guitars with rosewood boards.

The Loomis model is an almost  perfect metal guitar. It's simple and it should rock like a mofo. Of course if it had passive pickups so it would be easier to put in some BKPs it'd be perfect. :mrgreen:


It was a "isn't it a small world moment", not quite a highjacking :wink:  

I like the unfinished maple necks that seemed to gain popularity with the musicman and wolfgang. I could be  wrong, but I don't recall to many doing it before then. I'm not a big fan of the finished maple necks though, like on my Hendrix strat. They always feel "sticky" to me. I like the Loomis guitar, think I'll have Feline make one up for me in  year or so.  :D