Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: kunfi on December 18, 2006, 01:53:47 PM
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Hello,
I'll try to explain what I'm searching even if my english is not very good (I'm from france).
I've heard most of the BKP samples, but I couldn't find the set that will match for me.
The guitar is a Gibson Les Paul Standard with burstbuckers pro, but I don't like them specially the bridge position.
I want a set that could be as versatil as possible.
My style is really large, rock, blues, metal, shred...
Rock to metal sound on bridge, with easy pinch harmonics.
More vintage sound on neck, for blues.
I need a good clean sound too, if it's possible.
- Miracle Man / Cold Sweet ?
- Set of Nailbombs ?
Don't realy know wich will be better for me.
I don't know if it will be usefull, but I will put push pulls for splitting the pickups, to get a better clean sound.
Thanks for your help.
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A quite versatile set would be the rebel yells, PAFish voice for blues but still high enough output for more metal stuff. If you dont mind not having a set, if you have an LP and want vintage sound, great for blues and gorgeous cleans, thats a mule for the neck
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I don't mind to have a set, but I want 2 pickups with compatible output levels.
I don't know if a mule neck will be good with high level pickup as MM or NB.
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Miracle Man bridge/Cold Sweat neck would cover the rock/metal/shred requirements nicely & still offer you a nice neck clean sound.
Nailbomb/Cold Sweat would work pretty well too, very versatile & cover most of your needs.
Rebel Yell users on this board have said that it's just about the best Les Paul rock tone you'll ever hear (but I don't yet have an RY...)
Perhaps Mules wouldn't do the metal/shred bits quite as well (though Tim insists that they are good with high gain) - but would give you a great LP tone for rock & blues.
I guess the choice comes down to what music is most important to you. To cover several diverse styles on one guitar is usually going to involve some compromise. YMMV etc...
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A clibrated set of Nailbombs would probably do the trick. :evil:
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Don't forget the MM neck pup either.
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For clean tones and warm leads, which pickup will be better on neck :
Cold Sweet or Nailbomb ?
(In fact I love my Gibson burstbucker pro on neck, but I hate the bridge one)
For the bridge, very difficult to choose beetween à NB and à MM :(
Which one will be more similar to a DM paf pro ?
And what about a Mule on Neck and a Nailbomb on bridge ?
Will the différencence of output level be too important ?
:oops: IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO CHOSE A SET OF BKP :oops:
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For the bridge, very difficult to choose beetween à NB and à MM :(
Which one will be more similar to a DM paf pro ?
I think they're both a lot more powerful and more "metal" than a PAF Pro.
The PAF Pro's really quite a bright, transparent sounding pickup, not very high output, or at least that's how it seems to me. The nearest BKP equivalent, if there is one, would be the Emerald, maybe? Possibly even the Riff Raff. I really don't know. :?
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For clean tones and warm leads, which pickup will be better on neck :
Cold Sweet or Nailbomb ?
(In fact I love my Gibson burstbucker pro on neck, but I hate the bridge one)
Neither????
would perhaps a mule or black dog not be better?
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I've got a coldsweat neck and nailbomb bridge for my les paul standard. I know exactly how you feel about the burstbucker pro's, I alwasy found the bridge to be muddy, while the neck one is a very nice pickup. I would say go with the nb and cs but a rebel yell bridge also sparked my interest. my next lp will be fitted withe black dogs or mules for solid vintage tone.
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I made a mistake in my previous post, I'm searching a pickup similar to a DM Tone Zone and not a Paf pro :oops:
Did someone try to split a MM, NB or CS to get a clearer sound ?
I love the mule sound on the samples but I don't know if a mule on neck will be well balanced with a MM or NB on bridge.
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Salut. :) I vote for a Rebel Yell for the bridge position. It has the power and push of a modern humbucker with the clarity and openness of a vintage pickup, it's amazing in LP's. As for the neck, a Mule is always a goog choice in LP's. 8) Unfortunately I don't know much about the Rebel Yell neck model.
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I made a mistake in my previous post, I'm searching a pickup similar to a DM Tone Zone and not a Paf pro :oops:
That's a tricky one too :lol: - the Tone Zone (not my favourite pickup) has tons of bass and midrange. As I understand it, the MM has lots of bass, low mids and treble, whereas the NB has less bass, less treble, but more upper mids. So the TZ is somewhere in between the two really, it seems.
See this thread (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5503&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=miracle+man+nailbomb+mid&start=15) comparing MM and NB.
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The PAF Pro's really quite a bright, transparent sounding pickup, not very high output, or at least that's how it seems to me. The nearest BKP equivalent, if there is one, would be the Emerald, maybe? Possibly even the Riff Raff. I really don't know. :?
I've read on here that the VHII is what the paf pro should be. Consequently I really want them for my Ibanez radius, but am still spending several hours each day weighing up the alternatives :D
As for what's like the tone zone? Tricky, a nailbomb will get you kinda close but its much much leaner in the bass. Maybe an alnico V Miracle Man?
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I've read on here that the VHII is what the paf pro should be.
They seem to have pretty similar specs on paper, but I'd expect the VHII to sound a lot "bigger" and more open because it doesn't have symmetrical coils, unlike the PAF Pro.
I've seen a comment somewhere here on the forum, I think from Tim, saying that the VHII has almost a "big single-coil" quality, so maybe it's closer to a Fred (a pickup I like quite a lot). I get the impression the VHII rocks a fair bit harder though. :D
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Can someone give me output levels for neck pickup ?
Mule, VHII, CS, MM, NB etc...
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The ones I know, or can find posts about here:
Mule neck 7.3k
VHII neck 8k
CS neck 8.2k
NB neck 10k
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I can't decide myself between a "CS neck + NB bridge" and a "set of RY" :(
It seems from what I've read that the RY neck is very similar to the CS neck. What will be easier ?
Get heavy hi-gain sounds with RY or classic rock and clean sounds with NB ?
(If you understand what I mean...)