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Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 18, 2006, 07:15:04 PM
just started learning this song been through the tab once lol and i have to perform it on wednesday with my band so i just took a quick recording and cut a clip

what i want is tone advice what should i change  im gonna have to use my guyatone into the same model amp but the 100watt version unfortunately so any advice on what to change?
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Hurley on December 18, 2006, 09:03:21 PM
nice and heavy! really like it!  you ever tried emgs?
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 18, 2006, 09:14:29 PM
yeah i want from emgs to the miracle man :D well it wasnt by choice my guitar with emgs got stolen so i bought a rocket roll and thought id try bare knuckles as id heard so much about them
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Hurley on December 18, 2006, 11:24:51 PM
which do you prefer? im really liking my emgs how does the mirical man compare to them?
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 18, 2006, 11:28:59 PM
i really loved my EMGs i also love my miracle man i am uncertain as to which i prefer i need to wait until my lead players EMGs arrive so i can compare them both side by side to get a real idea

then ill know whether to get EMGS for my les paul or some more BKs
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Hurley on December 18, 2006, 11:43:16 PM
yeah i love my emgs as well...dont think you can beat emgs for a heavy rythem tone! and they just cut throught the mix really well live!
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 19, 2006, 12:21:26 AM
dunno check out the lost art of empathy on here

www.myspace.com/thefobialeeds

its my mates band listen the lead track compared to the rhythm

thr rhythm player has emgs and the lead player has a nailbomb

then again the second solo does cut through quite well which was done y the rhythm player
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Ratrod on December 19, 2006, 03:50:23 PM
Add some more mids to get some more growl out of it.
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 19, 2006, 04:22:44 PM
What is all this talk about EMG's??!!

Screw the EMG, BKP is the way forward.

Nice tone, but yeah as Ratrod said, more mids for that heavy Metallica sound!!
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Hurley on December 19, 2006, 05:59:26 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
What is all this talk about EMG's??!!

Screw the EMG, BKP is the way forward.

Nice tone, but yeah as Ratrod said, more mids for that heavy Metallica sound!!


the talk about emgs is that im interested in the MM but want to see how they compare...i love how people also dis emgs yet love metallicas tone so much and are always trying to recreate it...
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 19, 2006, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: Hurley
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
What is all this talk about EMG's??!!

Screw the EMG, BKP is the way forward.

Nice tone, but yeah as Ratrod said, more mids for that heavy Metallica sound!!


the talk about emgs is that im interested in the MM but want to see how they compare...i love how people also dis emgs yet love metallicas tone so much and are always trying to recreate it...


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Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: CJ on December 19, 2006, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
What is all this talk about EMG's??!!

Screw the EMG, BKP is the way forward.

Nice tone, but yeah as Ratrod said, more mids for that heavy Metallica sound!!


didn't they scoop their mids like crazy?
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 19, 2006, 09:28:42 PM
...no

It's the other way around, they have aload of mids and definatley don't scoop them.
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Hurley on December 19, 2006, 09:47:21 PM
ill think u will find metallica scoop their mids
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 19, 2006, 09:50:17 PM
Quote from: Hurley
ill think u will find metallica scoop their mids


no they dont this is a common misbelief if they scooped there mids it woudl be too low in the mix

people jsut scoop theremids and think oh this sounds like metallica when it doesnt really so presume that metallica must scoop there mids
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Hurley on December 19, 2006, 10:04:02 PM
i have their exact amp settings from AJFA and MOP somwhere i will try and find a link and they clearly scoop their mids and there are loads of interviews with James and he states this.
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 19, 2006, 10:15:39 PM
i also have a copy of the justice amp settings somewhere from sweet silence studios
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 19, 2006, 10:30:06 PM
Can you send them to me please :D:D:D:D
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 19, 2006, 11:18:43 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
Can you send them to me please :D:D:D:D


yeah ill find them

theyre for the mesa mark IIC+ which im happy about cos the eq section is meant to be similar to the makr IVs
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 19, 2006, 11:31:41 PM
http://www.sweetsilence.com/GearSlutzNotes.htm
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 19, 2006, 11:50:02 PM
Cheers!!!
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Ratrod on December 20, 2006, 12:18:24 PM
James Hetfield used scooped mids untill the Black Album. Bob Rock gave James the tip to add more mids.
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Transcend on December 20, 2006, 12:59:24 PM
Quote from: Ratrod
James Hetfield used scooped mids untill the Black Album. Bob Rock gave James the tip to add more mids.


look at the amp settings u will see the eq is clearly not scooped
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: Hurley on December 24, 2006, 03:38:59 PM
Quote from: hate_growth
Quote from: Ratrod
James Hetfield used scooped mids untill the Black Album. Bob Rock gave James the tip to add more mids.


look at the amp settings u will see the eq is clearly not scooped


Talking about Jason's bass being obscured on ...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL: "Also, my tone on JUSTICE was very scooped-all lows and highs with very little mid-range. When my rhythm parts were placed in the mix, my guitar sound ate up all the lower frequencies. Jason and I were always battling for the same space in the mix." Guitar World, October 1991
Title: unnamed feeling Miracle Man
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on December 24, 2006, 07:05:03 PM
For Ride The Lightning, you use a slight mid scoop. For MOP, I have to cut out the low mids, bring up the mid's over the low mids but not much more, and then adjust the treble and bass so I nail that loose but clear bass.  For the black album I still scoop but hardly. It's almost like flat with a lot of treble.