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Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 21, 2006, 05:33:21 PM
:(  Well that's the end of that. I have no idea how to change strings and do stuff on this locking trem. Think i'll just give it to someone who knows what they are doing, coughfelinecough. It needs setting up anyway, the action, intonation, there is only one strap holder and it needs tuning properly. Though i have no money at the moment and i'm buying BKP's after xmas so looks like the strat will be out for a while :lol:

But at least i broke it in dignity, i was playing the solo to Scorpions - Rock You Like A Hurricane!

And amazingly it wasn't the high e string  :o  It was the b string, and i wasn't even playing on the b string when it happened so i don't know why it broke.
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: maliciousteve on December 21, 2006, 05:36:22 PM
If it's easier for you to get to, go to machine head and have Barry give it a once over.

What kind of strat is it?
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 21, 2006, 05:41:18 PM
80's Schecter Strategy i think. I would take it to Barry but i think his prices are a rip off, though he seems like he does good work.

His pricelist says just to do the action & intonation is £84! Now i havn't had to give my guitar to someone before but even i can tell that's a tad expensive!

Anyone tried the guy from Coda?
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: dave_mc on December 21, 2006, 05:47:33 PM
^ jeez, I got a full set up (granted, about a year and a half ago) from a shop here in Northern Ireland for £25... including strings. On a floyd guitar (since they tend to be dearer).
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: maliciousteve on December 21, 2006, 05:47:42 PM
I only paid £45 for a full set up. If prices go higher than expected it means he had to do something else to it too.

I've had my Jackson RR3 done over by the bloke at Coda and he was terrible. It took almost 5 weeks for me to get it back and it only went in to have the knife edges of the tremolo fixed and a quick set up.
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Afghan Dave on December 21, 2006, 05:51:08 PM
Hey Crazy Joe.. It's your lucky day!

As a Xmas deal I will personally come over to Hatfield and change your string for the one time only CRAZY winter sale price of £50!!

Yes, you read it right FIFTY pounds ONLY!!

Plus that's not all... no way you say... how can Dave make me such a wild deal?

Well as a one time only bonus I WILL TUNE YOUR GUITAR dude!!

Act now as these prices are so CRAAAZY they can't last...  :lol:  :lol:

(I think that a full set-up can wait till you get the pickups and then you can get them fitted at the same time but you can learn to change the string man) :wink:  :roll:  :lol:
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 21, 2006, 06:02:59 PM
...I dont' live in Hatfield :lol:

Edit: and actually i think i know how to change the strings anyway, it will just take ages and i can't be arsed.
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: maliciousteve on December 21, 2006, 06:04:36 PM
I do  :orcass:
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Afghan Dave on December 21, 2006, 06:10:35 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
...I dont' live in Hatfield :lol:

Edit: and actually i think i know how to change the strings anyway, it will just take ages and i can't be arsed.


Oh no.. for people who don't live in Hatfield there is usually an up-charge of +£20   :cry:  :cry:

But...  I will cut my costs to the BONE and drop it to £10!!

(seriously get off your arse and change the goddam string    :lol:  :?  :lol: )
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on December 21, 2006, 08:03:59 PM
At least it broke during a Scorpions song - was listening to Blackout last night  (what a great album)

We may just be a bit far to go if you don't have transport
We charge £40 for a set up and £90 for a fret dress and set-up (strings extra).

A few of the guys have been down here (incl Malicious Steve) so know their way to our place.

Anyway we are open till Saturday and then closed until the new year (although i may put in a couple of days just building guitars without the phone or doorbell going)
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: CJ on December 22, 2006, 01:05:15 AM
same thing just happened to me. b string. Cemetery Gates.
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 22, 2006, 11:20:19 AM
^ haha great song.

I'm playing my Explorer all the time now though, the only time i have used my strat this week was yesterday when my string broke :lol:
It showed me how much i don't need a trem and stuff, i'm more of a simple explorer guitar guy. Also i'm getting BKP's for it so that will make the strat even more neglected!
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: _tom_ on December 22, 2006, 11:21:23 AM
I'll buy your strat for a tenner less than you bought it for ;)
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 22, 2006, 11:35:54 AM
Haha, nah, but you can buy my Les Paul Special II for a cheap price :lol:
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on December 23, 2006, 06:37:06 PM
It reallyt isn't that hard to change a string in a FR...

-just losen the string retaining block thing on the saddle,
-take out the string,
-get new one and cut ball off,
-stick into hole, tighten screw,
-and do as you would to a normal guitar...

jez mate if u cant be arsed to do that and pay £25-90, theres something wrong with u??

MMM
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 23, 2006, 08:32:29 PM
Yeah i'm a lazy arse, but i will do it eventually, i wanted to send it to someone because there is a lot of other stuff that needs doing too if you look at my other posts.
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on December 23, 2006, 10:58:10 PM
fair enough, although if you look around on the internet or even on this months TG mag, its fairly easy to find info on setting up the action and intonation on a Floyd... agreed though, its not my favourite passtime, but its certainly cheaper!!
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Antag on December 24, 2006, 07:29:24 AM
Joe, I just went back to your thread in the Guitar/Amp forum & checked out the pics (the Scheter right?).  This really ought not to be particulary complicated - your Scheter trem isn't a floyd, & looks much simpler.

Simply get the correct sized allen key, loosen the locking clamp in the nut that's holding the broken string.
Unwind the broken string from the post.
Snip the curly bit off with wirecutters :)
You should be able to push the rest of string through from the top (the pics imply that strngs are bottom loaded on that bridge).

I can't see any sort of clamp that locks the strings at the bridge, so the ball ends should just drop through the holes in the trem cavity cover.

When you pull the broekn string through, take a close look at where it's coming out then you know where to insert the new string... :)
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Jp. on December 25, 2006, 04:20:26 AM
Forgive my naive-ness here guys.

I have never owned a Floyd style git and I thought I read somewhere that it was a fallacy that you had to cut the ball off of a string?

I have no Idea and it would be interesting to here from floyd owners.
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on December 25, 2006, 10:17:26 AM
the new Ibanez Floyds like the Edge pro 2 and that don't need the balls cut off, but all the standard copies and originals do need the ball to be cut off.
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Antag on December 25, 2006, 07:38:59 PM
Quote from: Jp.
I have never owned a Floyd style git and I thought I read somewhere that it was a fallacy that you had to cut the ball off of a string?


Well, you could always thread the string the wrong way round so that the ball ends are at the headstock - that way you wouldn't need to snip them off (though it would look untidy IMO)

As MMM states, some Ibanez models don't require the balls to be snipped, IIRC the early Yamaha Pacificas were bottom loaded too.  There was also a superb floyd-style trem from Fernandes in the 80s where the strings were rear loaded (why, oh why did I sell that guitar?!? :()

However, the original Floyd, Schaller Floyd & most derivatives require a plain string end to be inserted into slots where they are clamped in place by an small block pushed by an allen screw.

Joe's Scheter doesn't seem to have a Floyd, but some sort of bottom loaded trem with fine tuners & a locking nut...
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on December 27, 2006, 07:59:20 PM
I got the allen keys and screwdrivers out and had a look at everything, looks pretty easy, i'll get a pack o' strings in the next few days, fitted a new strap holder today, the intonation thing seems fairly easy.

As i said, i can do it, i'm just lazy.
Title: Noooooo!!! Broke a string on the strat!
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on December 28, 2006, 11:09:32 PM
Thats the spirit!!!  well good luck and hope it goes well.