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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: maverickf1jockey on January 05, 2007, 07:28:07 AM

Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 05, 2007, 07:28:07 AM
My guitar has no pickup rings, will i need to get them installed?
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: gingataff on January 05, 2007, 07:52:41 AM
How are you current pickups fitted?
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 05, 2007, 08:01:47 AM
into the body (no Pickguard)
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: gingataff on January 05, 2007, 08:40:22 AM
You may have some foam or rubber under your pickups to hold them steady so use that and mount the BKPs into body exactly the same as the ones you have now, no need for pickup rings :D
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: hunter on January 05, 2007, 09:26:25 AM
I had to adjust height of the pole screws of the Rebel Yell set for my Axis, as the screws were too long under the base plate to fit nicely when on body mounted. But after slight adjustment, it was fine.

One shitety thing: You might have to increase the size of the mounting hole in the pickup for the screws to fit. However, that will make it unuseable for ring mounting.
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 05, 2007, 10:31:34 AM
bugger.
i want to avoid routing bits of the guitar as much as possible.
the rings will look better on it anyway, but i've heard they can get really annoying feedback problems.
i need to check whether i can actually fit the rings in the first place (i am not too sure if the neck pup touches the fretboard)...
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: Philly Q on January 05, 2007, 11:16:52 AM
Another thing to bear in mind - see how long the "legs" of your current pickus are.  BKPs are available with long or short legs.
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 05, 2007, 11:55:28 AM
can i check that without taking them out.
do you mean the depth, or the tabs at the side?
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: Philly Q on January 05, 2007, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
do you mean the depth, or the tabs at the side?

The vertical part of the baseplate's metal tabs/legs (not the overall depth of the pickup, although that could also be an issue - coil and magnet thicknesses vary too).  

I don't have BKPs here that I can measure, but a Gibson humbucker has long legs - about 1/2" - and a DiMarzio has short ones - about 1/4".  What are your current pickups?

You might be able to measure them without removing the pickups, depends on the guitar.
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 05, 2007, 01:00:09 PM
stock Mavericks circa 2003ish
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: Philly Q on January 05, 2007, 01:21:03 PM
Hmm, I don't know anything about Maverick pickups. :?

I looked at a couple of pictures of Mavericks and I don't think there's room for a mounting ring, the neck pup looks really close to the fingerboard.

I think it would be worth taking them out, doing a few measurements and checking with Tim and the guys before placing an order.
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 05, 2007, 01:26:52 PM
yeah, but i just changed the strings and don't fancy restringing the floyd again.
Looking at Tim's Music Man the uncovered Pups would be compatible...
But i want a covered version, are they bigger?
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: Philly Q on January 05, 2007, 01:59:53 PM
A cover does make the pickup a little bigger - I had to do a tiny bit of routing to fit my Riff Raff in my SG.  

It's not a big difference though.  Again, it'll depend on how they've routed your particular guitar.
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on January 05, 2007, 02:58:41 PM
I have a Miracle Man/Irish Tour directly mounted into the body of my Kamikaze 4 ... no pickup ring requred!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/SplawnRecordingSetup5Dec05.jpg)
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 05, 2007, 03:05:59 PM
good to know, that should save me a couple of pennies.
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: LazyNinja on January 05, 2007, 03:52:45 PM
Hiya, I have tried changing pickups in a Maverick F1 w/o the rings before and let me tell you it's not fun. The pickups fitted were SD JB/Jazz combo and they didnt fit straight away. First of all, the pickup width (not length) was too fat so I did a bit of sanding to make em fit in. The screw that screws the pickup into the body were too big for the holes in the SD pups, which I think are the standard size. I went to some DIY stores but couldn't find correctly sized screws so in the end I just made the holes bigger thus sacrificing the chance to fit them in any non direct mount guitars :( . It's kinda scary too directly mounting pickups I kept worrying that the screws will come through at the back of the guitar lol. The final pain is the wiring, I was very inexperienced with switching pups back then, and the unusual shape of the control cavity made it very dificult to put everything back in the right place. In the end I ended up chopping quite a bit of wires off but I wish now that I hadn't done that. My advice is if you're inexperienced, take it to a guitar tech. Hope that helps. :)
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on January 05, 2007, 04:15:46 PM
I totally agree with LazyNinja. The guitar must be routed for direct mounting pups, or it won't work!!!
Title: Do BKP's need rings or Rubbers.
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 05, 2007, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: LazyNinja
Hiya, I have tried changing pickups in a Maverick F1 w/o the rings before and let me tell you it's not fun. The pickups fitted were SD JB/Jazz combo and they didnt fit straight away. First of all, the pickup width (not length) was too fat so I did a bit of sanding to make em fit in. The screw that screws the pickup into the body were too big for the holes in the SD pups, which I think are the standard size. I went to some DIY stores but couldn't find correctly sized screws so in the end I just made the holes bigger thus sacrificing the chance to fit them in any non direct mount guitars :( . It's kinda scary too directly mounting pickups I kept worrying that the screws will come through at the back of the guitar lol. The final pain is the wiring, I was very inexperienced with switching pups back then, and the unusual shape of the control cavity made it very dificult to put everything back in the right place. In the end I ended up chopping quite a bit of wires off but I wish now that I hadn't done that. My advice is if you're inexperienced, take it to a guitar tech. Hope that helps. :)

Yeah i was going to take it to intersound in dursley to get it fixed up anyway.
thanks for looking out for me though.