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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: maverickf1jockey on January 06, 2007, 12:46:56 PM

Title: it happened in the shower...
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 06, 2007, 12:46:56 PM
had a brainwave!
would it be possible to make a humbucker with two P90 coils (instead of the skinny ones) wound in opposite directions.
it should sound absolutely MASSIVE...
anybody tried this? if you have, please tell me the results.
Title: it happened in the shower...
Post by: PhilKing on January 06, 2007, 12:49:06 PM
Nathan Sheppard Guitars.  Tim made a P-90 humbucker for him  - he had the guitar at the 2005 LGS.  I think it might have been reviewed in Guitarist magazine too.
Title: it happened in the shower...
Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 06, 2007, 12:52:39 PM
any idea what it sounded like?
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Post by: FELINEGUITARS on January 06, 2007, 01:51:05 PM
I suspect that you mean a side by side coil arrangement rather than the stacked coil hum canceling P90 type thing

Would be very fat if it could be done
Not very practical though
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Post by: BloodMountain on January 06, 2007, 02:15:40 PM
sounds like a great idea!
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 06, 2007, 02:44:08 PM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
I suspect that you mean a side by side coil arrangement rather than the stacked coil hum canceling P90 type thing

Would be very fat if it could be done
Not very practical though

But the versatility of adding a coil-split toggle would make up for the unwieldy size, especially if they were slightly different sizes (HP90+P90).
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Post by: OD-Black_Fire on January 06, 2007, 04:08:15 PM
Mathew Bellamy of Muse has a guitar with two p90's wound together. It doesn't sound "metal," but its actually kinda like a really really fat aggressive strat.

(http://www.musewiki.org/images/Kaoss_Manson.jpg)
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 06, 2007, 04:15:50 PM
yeah but Tim'd probably make it really powerful if i asked nicely. (A 'Pig-90Bucker' springs to mind)
and those may well be a makeshift sutainer pup anyway...
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Post by: Miracle Man on January 06, 2007, 04:30:09 PM
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
yeah but Tim'd probably make it really powerful if i asked nicely. (A 'Pig-90Bucker' springs to mind)


You'd probably have to get a permit for one of those   :twisted:
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 06, 2007, 05:01:47 PM
Quote from: Troy
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yeah but Tim'd probably make it really powerful if i asked nicely. (A 'Pig-90Bucker' springs to mind)


You'd probably have to get a permit for one of those   :twisted:

And a grant from the MOD to afford it!
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Post by: Miracle Man Matt on January 06, 2007, 05:09:25 PM
Wow that would be some guitar.

I thought about making a guitar with as many coils that i could fit between the bridge and neck... i heard that the guitarist off Nine Inch Nails had one but haven't found any proof.  I was thinking of using like a large slider switch to phase across the coils going from bridge to neck and vice versa.

or just a shite load of mini switches!

MMM
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Post by: Philly Q on January 06, 2007, 05:32:35 PM
Quote from: Miracle Man Matt
I thought about making a guitar with as many coils that i could fit between the bridge and neck...

Don't forget this one! :
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 06, 2007, 05:49:15 PM
Go Nigel GO!
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Post by: Miracle Man Matt on January 06, 2007, 07:13:21 PM
WOW yea thats the beast... I wonder how it sounds?
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 06, 2007, 08:46:26 PM
watch 'The Return of Spinal Tap' and the lead guitarist (Nigel Tufnel) gets it out for 'The Majesty of Rock'
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Post by: Tricalibur on January 07, 2007, 04:18:25 AM
Quote from: OD-Black_Fire
Mathew Bellamy of Muse has a guitar with two p90's wound together. It doesn't sound "metal," but its actually kinda like a really really fat aggressive strat.

(http://www.musewiki.org/images/Kaoss_Manson.jpg)

Is that a TV below the trem?
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Post by: OD-Black_Fire on January 07, 2007, 05:58:37 AM
Haha, no, but it could $%&#ing control your TV. It's a MIDI touch pad that will control a Kaoss pad.

You can see him use it here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TeSGON6VvA
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 07, 2007, 04:31:47 PM
probably the worlds most expensive theremin.
that is just not a real necessity for that song to be played live, it just looks good.
Listen to the opening section of 'Octavarium' to hear a similar instrument played infinitely better.
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Post by: Brow on January 07, 2007, 07:21:22 PM
Doesn't he just use that pad as a MIDI controller for a Digitech Whammy pedal?

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that the pad on his guitar is somehow wired so that when he drags his finger across the pad in a certain direction, it's like he's moving the treadle pedal on a Whammy pedal up and down (moving the pitch up and down).

I could be wrong on this, but this is what I recall  :lol:
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Post by: BloodMountain on January 07, 2007, 07:24:02 PM
that would be cooool! but it looks a bit wierd
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 07, 2007, 07:50:52 PM
Quote from: Brow
Doesn't he just use that pad as a MIDI controller for a Digitech Whammy pedal?

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that the pad on his guitar is somehow wired so that when he drags his finger across the pad in a certain direction, it's like he's moving the treadle pedal on a Whammy pedal up and down (moving the pitch up and down).

I could be wrong on this, but this is what I recall  :lol:

so essentially the same as something he could have got for a lot less.
Bellamy; ever economical... :roll:
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Post by: Brow on January 07, 2007, 11:18:13 PM
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
Quote from: Brow
Doesn't he just use that pad as a MIDI controller for a Digitech Whammy pedal?

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that the pad on his guitar is somehow wired so that when he drags his finger across the pad in a certain direction, it's like he's moving the treadle pedal on a Whammy pedal up and down (moving the pitch up and down).

I could be wrong on this, but this is what I recall  :lol:

so essentially the same as something he could have got for a lot less.
Bellamy; ever economical... :roll:


True....................

But it LOOKS cooler to be seen doing it on your guitar with a pick sooner than with your foot like everyone else  :roll:
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Post by: gingataff on January 08, 2007, 02:34:45 AM
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
probably the worlds most expensive theremin.
that is just not a real necessity for that song to be played live, it just looks good.
Listen to the opening section of 'Octavarium' to hear a similar instrument played infinitely better.

If you mean Octavarium by Dream Theater, I think that instrument is a pedal steel played with a wah and distortion> It does sound great though!
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 08, 2007, 07:44:26 AM
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probably the worlds most expensive theremin.
that is just not a real necessity for that song to be played live, it just looks good.
Listen to the opening section of 'Octavarium' to hear a similar instrument played infinitely better.

If you mean Octavarium by Dream Theater, I think that instrument is a pedal steel played with a wah and distortion> It does sound great though!

on the Score DVD Jordan plays it on a 'Continuum fingerboard', which appears to be a form of digital synth, but a lap steel guitar is also used at some point.
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 09, 2007, 08:29:00 AM
:!: BUMP
I want more about the pup I thought up, has anyone on the forum tried anything similar and how did it sound?
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Post by: Mr Ed on January 09, 2007, 08:50:08 AM
For the record 1: That pickup was sound killer and huge!
For the record 2: Matt Bellamy, as cool as he is, has a completely ass guitar tone.
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 09, 2007, 03:38:21 PM
:bellamy::shock:
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Post by: Mr Ed on January 09, 2007, 04:00:00 PM
Haha, that'll learn 'im.
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 09, 2007, 05:04:50 PM
needless to say Muse aren't my favourite band... :lol:
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Post by: n_mountain on January 09, 2007, 10:41:09 PM
Hey Maverick,

you mean something like this:
http://www.vintagevibeguitars.com/pickup_hum.html#
scroll down to the HSP custom humbucking pickups
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Post by: maverickf1jockey on January 10, 2007, 06:20:46 AM
yay!:P that looks far cheaper (no routing), but would it sound as good?