Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Kilby on January 11, 2007, 01:02:44 AM
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It's been a while since I started a topic, anyway due to my lack of a 6 string I have been searching ebay for interesting items and I found this.
I have a slight feeling that things may be too good to be true as it's a silly starting price and the seller dosn't seem to know what country he / she is in (could explain the starting price)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1958-Gibson-Les-Paul-Jr-Junior-Cherry-Double-Cut_W0QQitemZ150079827387QQihZ005QQcategoryZ33040QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Hmm- account only opened today
Zero feedback
High interest item
Likely to get some high bids
Could end in tears
Watch this space.............
I'm off to get popcorn
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Would agree with Feline...
If it looks too good to be true then it probably is!
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Utter tripe. :lol:
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The pics look REALLY professional, like they've been done by a shop or pro seller? If that was the case, they'd have a better eBay username and links to their website.
The auction stinks of stolen pictures and a fake auction.
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That's my thought too, but I'm trying to stick to my new years resolution regarding cynacism ;)
However I agree with Feline about the need to have a bucket of popcorn to hand while spectating what will no doubt be a complete soap opera.
Rob...
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Zero feedback
Well everyone has to start somewhere (he says innocently). The pictures are fantastic, but the starting price (with no reserve) is ridiculous.
This is the bit that really smells funny:
"Seller's payment instructions
Payment must be done only by bank account"
Could it be one of those "I am the former Finance Minister of Upper Volta, I have $14,000,000 for you in a Swiss bank account, just send me your bank details" scams?
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RockNRollVintage is an established dealer in Chicago. They have a web site www.rocknrollvintage.com. I'm sure these pictures are something that they have sold. Interestingly 6264 (the serial number), is mentioned in a couple of articles on the web. and in this ebay sale too
http://www.ebay.se/viItem?ItemId=330070747225
Strange how 2 zero feedback accounts are selling the same guitar isn't it? (or not - if they don't have it anyway) :shock:
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The serial number should start 8. The 4 digit serial number is nonsense. They were done away with in 57.
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The serial number should start 8. The 4 digit serial number is nonsense. They were done away with in 57.
No actually in this case you are wrong. There are some 58 Juniors and Specials with 4 digit serial numbers in the 6000 and 7000 range. It just happens, stangely or not, that 6264 is often used as an exaple of this!
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The serial number should start 8. The 4 digit serial number is nonsense. They were done away with in 57.
No actually in this case you are wrong. There are some 58 Juniors and Specials with 4 digit serial numbers in the 6000 and 7000 range. It just happens, stangely or not, that 6264 is often used as an exaple of this!
Really? Baws, my bad.
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Interestingly 6264 (the serial number), is mentioned in a couple of articles on the web. and in this ebay sale too
http://www.ebay.se/viItem?ItemId=330070747225
Strange how 2 zero feedback accounts are selling the same guitar isn't it? (or not - if they don't have it anyway) :shock:
It's a well travelled guitar. From "Spain, Valencia, UK" to "China, Sweden" all in a couple of weeks. :? :?:
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This is an interesting one isn't it?
The pics do look to be of a genuine old LP Junior, but whether that's what the seller actually has in his/her posession to sell is a different matter.
Just feels a little bit wrong, if you know what I mean.
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It's up to £4,200 now, with just over a day to go.
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the item descriptions are also the same
jonathan.. care to hand over some popcorn?
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I wrote to ebays security team to look at it.
If my suspicions are correct & someone stands to lose money then I will have done the right thing .
Otherwise I am being an interfering busybody- but rather than than see folks ripped off.
Here is the original advert from the REAL seller
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1958-Gibson-Les-Paul-Jr-Junior-Cherry-Double-Cut_W0QQitemZ330068971950QQihZ014QQcategoryZ38086QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Well done Jon. I'd toyed with the idea of reporting it, but bottled out.
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Well done Jon. I'd toyed with the idea of reporting it, but bottled out.
I know the feeling
I hate dishonesty with a passion
I just feel that it is better to stop someone losing a load of money to a scam artist and have a few small minded individuals think you are a busybody, than to sit back and do nothing.
I mean the amount of money that would be lost £4000+ would buy a lot of BKPs or even custom built guitars.
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I wrote to ebays security team to look at it.
If my suspicions are correct & someone stands to lose money then I will have done the right thing .
Otherwise I am being an interfering busybody- but rather than than see folks ripped off.
I think you where right in doing that, and not even used ebay or having an account I wasn't sure who to contact, plus nobody had bid for it (way back then).
Only just saw the original advert, it's interesting to see the original is cheaper too. It's a lovely looking guitar from what I can see, I wonder what it plays & sounds like ?
Good decision, anyway it's better being called a busybody when there a high bids been placed.
As Philly said I'm now regretting taking the some action :( (looks like London is finally affecting my sense of decency)
Rob...
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I am wondering if this will go the same way as a 'Les Paul' that was being sold by a guy a few months back. It was obviously a Chinese copy (you only had to check his eBay history to see that he had bought it from China...) - someone bid the price up and up and then left really stinking feedback about 2 minutes after the end of the auction - no money (nor guitar!) ever changed hands.
Sorted the problem!
Mike
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The ad was still there this morning, but looks like it was cancelled before the end time.
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Deed well done. No one needs to be bilked out of hard earned cash. PDT_003
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I am wondering if this will go the same way as a 'Les Paul' that was being sold by a guy a few months back. It was obviously a Chinese copy (you only had to check his eBay history to see that he had bought it from China...) - someone bid the price up and up and then left really stinking feedback about 2 minutes after the end of the auction - no money (nor guitar!) ever changed hands.
Sorted the problem!
Mike
The CEO of Rickenbacker does something similar with Ric copies on EBay, but he asks real dumb questions, bids the price really high then gets the ad pulled in the last few hours.
The funny thing is the sellers answer the dumb questions on the auction page.
Rob...