Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: headtheball on January 15, 2007, 08:39:28 PM
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Hello there.
Once more I'm begging for help.
Recently, and over two sets of strings, I've noticed a strange "ringing" coming behind each note on my Eggle. It's not at a fixed pitch, either, it's a kind of strange "halo" of Vibrato following each note. It's most prominent on the plain strings between the fifth and twelth fret.
The odd thing is, it doesn't come through on the amp at all. it's just there acoustically, and it's starting to bug me more than a little.
Is it possible the pickups (BKP-90's) are a bit too close to the strings? they're both a good 4-5mm away, so I was kinda discounting that, but at this point I'd give anyhing a whirl. All mechanical components are locked down tight, from the tailpiece and bridge, to the tuner locks and truss cover. The frets look grand to my eyes as well.
Any ideas at all?
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I had that a bit on my eggle that I bought recently. It went away. haven't really worried too much about it since. It seemed to happen when you picked hard, I just figured my guitar had old strings or something.
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i had this problem on a guitar, and it was just the saddles rattling against eachother at certain frequencies, try moving them around a bit with ur fingers and try playing notes with your hand on the saddles, see if it goes away at all.
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same here ... I had a rattle in an SG that turned out to be in the saddles. I ended up having to put blue tac in there to stop them vibrating.
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same here ... I had a rattle in an SG that turned out to be in the saddles. I ended up having to put blue tac in there to stop them vibrating.
yeah i did that too - works wanders :P
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mine doesn't have saddles... it's a one-piece bridge. Though it does have a movable part for the g and b strings to allow intonation for those two. Maybe it was that. It stopped anyway, lol.
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headtheball, the noise you describe sounds a hell of a lot like the noise I had on one of my guitars after I moved the pickups too close to the strings - a kind of weird 'wolf note' with a strange vibrato/tremelo sound to it.
Try dropping the pickups a little way and see if it goes away. If not, I'm afraid I'm stumped.
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Just a thought - does the "ringing" feel like it's coming from the neck itself?
I was getting some strange ringing/warbling noises from my Tele recently. Then I happened to tap the back of the neck and heard a strange metallic rattle. It turned out the truss rod nut was loose - the rod wasn't under tension at all and was vibrating in the neck when I played certain notes.
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Dave Mc, your eggle must be a lot like mine (did we have this conversation before? is yours the blueburst Wave 1? out of curiosity, how many frets are on it?).
I dropped the bridge PU a mill or so, and it seems to have diminished a little, so hopefully that's it.
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^ nah, I don't think we talked before, I've only mentioned this to a few people. I got a prototype vienna recently in the emporium's "closing down" sale, no case, few minor cosmetic imperfections, for £500. I was well pleased, obviously enough (list is like £2100!).
22 frets.
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i'm the one with the blueburst wave! i also got a "prototype" eggle from the emporium, a Berlin Evo22, basically it's like a prs mccarty, 'cept it cost me £600, and like that Vienna the list is about £2000. is that the hollow Vienna? i didn't play it but it's a lovely looking guitar.
and closing down sale you say? i hadn't heard they were closing, that's a shame.
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^ that's the one, the red one.
it's really nice... needs new pickups, but I'm kind of holding off on that till I'm sure what I want.
it's strange, the sale isn't being publicised at all. I've exchanged many a puzzled pm with rob/kilby about it (who brought the sale to my attention, which was very nice!), and we don't know what's going on.
When did you get your eggle? 'Cos from what i hear, they have one left (unless you took it!).
oh, and sorry for the takeover of the thread! :oops:
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i'd say it's over a year since i got mine. it's still got the Seymour Duncan pickups in it, a custom custom and a '59. they sound okay, a very modern slick sound. i have a pair of Crawlers here which i got off ebay and i can't decide if i should put them in it or another guitar.
i don't think we've hijacked, just gone off on a slight tangent :roll:
anyway, i'll have to head up to Belfast and check this out (checks bottom of drawer for spare pennies...)
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Just a thought - does the "ringing" feel like it's coming from the neck itself?
I was getting some strange ringing/warbling noises from my Tele recently. Then I happened to tap the back of the neck and heard a strange metallic rattle. It turned out the truss rod nut was loose - the rod wasn't under tension at all and was vibrating in the neck when I played certain notes.
Who cares, truss rods and low action are for sissis anyways :twisted:
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I used to have that problem on my cheap 7 string (sd invaders pups).
I think lowering the neck pickup finally soleved it (but it could have just dissapeared spontaneously. :shock:
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Who cares, truss rods and low action are for sissis anyways :twisted:
Your guitars don't have truss rods? Do they call you "Ol' Banana Neck"? :wink:
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i don't think we've hijacked, just gone off on a slight tangent :roll:
anyway, i'll have to head up to Belfast and check this out (checks bottom of drawer for spare pennies...)
They still have the Eggle, it sort of looks like a cross between a PRS & a small 335.
Hopefully I'm off to by an Eggle myself tomorrow (hopefully a pre 2000 model), providing I can get a day off work to go to Coventry
What a person from my part of the world Hijack anything, never !
Rob...
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Have you got a trem on your Eggle? I've found with some guitars that playing certain notes can cause the tremolo springs to resonate.
Oh, and where is this Emporium of which you speak?
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i don't think we've hijacked, just gone off on a slight tangent :roll:
anyway, i'll have to head up to Belfast and check this out (checks bottom of drawer for spare pennies...)
They still have the Eggle, it sort of looks like a cross between a PRS & a small 335.
Hopefully I'm off to by an Eggle myself tomorrow (hopefully a pre 2000 model), providing I can get a day off work to go to Coventry
What a person from my part of the world Hijack anything, never !
Rob...
hahaha! :lol:
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Have you got a trem on your Eggle? I've found with some guitars that playing certain notes can cause the tremolo springs to resonate.
Oh, and where is this Emporium of which you speak?
Belfast.
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Sounds like you're sorted; I was going to echo froglord, if your PE(orPJE nowadays I suppose) has a trem, as trem springs sometimes act just like a reverb spring.
Am glad these fine guitars have swum rather than sunk, as I was starting to fear a few years ago.
Until recently I had a '93 Berlin Pro that seemed to want to do those "chimes" as if genetically programmed: trem spring, truss rod nut, a warble as the neck adjusted from summer to autumn and action went a bit too low...I know these things can be common to many guitars but the fact that yours is an Eggle just got me down memory lane...
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Dave, Blue, Kilby.
The word on fastfude at any rate is that the emporium is no longer closing down. The partnership behind it is breaking up, however, so Big Neil will no longer be the manager (a crying shame, by the way!), but the shop will still be staying.
What's really shocking is the amount of local bands prepared to do a benefit gig to relieve the financial pressure the shop is under, which is insane when you think about it.
So, as far as I know, no closing down sale, but there may be a bit of a clearance to allow for some slightly more saleable stock to come in.
(By the way as well, those "Prototype" eggles aren't officially meant to be on sale. Apparently the Eggle Rep started giving them / selling them to shops at knockdown prices. Eggle themselves are not even a wee bit happy about it!!)
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haha, awesome!
what's fastfude, by the way?
:drink:
EDIT: i don't like the sound of "more saleable"... that sounds like marshall MG's to me. :(
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www.fastfude.org
Belfast "Music Scene" Website/forum
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ah, thanks for that!
:drink:
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Dave, Blue, Kilby.
The word on fastfude at any rate is that the emporium is no longer closing down. The partnership behind it is breaking up, however, so Big Neil will no longer be the manager (a crying shame, by the way!), but the shop will still be staying.
What's really shocking is the amount of local bands prepared to do a benefit gig to relieve the financial pressure the shop is under, which is insane when you think about it.
So, as far as I know, no closing down sale, but there may be a bit of a clearance to allow for some slightly more saleable stock to come in.
(By the way as well, those "Prototype" eggles aren't officially meant to be on sale. Apparently the Eggle Rep started giving them / selling them to shops at knockdown prices. Eggle themselves are not even a wee bit happy about it!!)
Errrr further subject hijacking.
Theres a lot of issues with the Eggle management these days from all accounts which is a shame theres more info over at http://www.patrickeggleguitars.org from former staff. Apparently the factory was closed (without telling the staff), and nobody seems quite sure where they are made now (wierd or what !)
Froglord: if you are interested in another Eggle try http://www.totalmusiccompany.com/tmc/index.php?keyword=eggle&Search=Search&Itemid=1&option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse, though in reality they have about 30 Eggles in the warehouse. The company that owned the store also owned Eggle at the same time hence the quantity of 'new old stock' instruments.
Blue: thanks for the info, though I couldn't find mention of the Emporium, their website was closed on the 9th of Jan (according to their whois entry).
Anyway normal service will be resumed
Did you change string gauge before the strange tone turned up ?
Rob...