Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gwEm on January 30, 2007, 09:30:36 AM
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Quite an obvious question I suppose, but I've been thinking about it alot recently - well Fender guitars really.
I've always been into Gibson style, Flying V, SG, and to a certain extent Les Paul. The reason for that is frankly the look, and I strongly prefer Gibson designs.
Lately though I've been bored with buying guitars, removing a load of hardware, and replacing it with decent gear... Which seems like a bit of a waste of money. And each time I have to install a neck pickup, which I'd rather not do as I dont use it /that/ often - but its harder to get custom pickguards for gibson types with one pickup. you can get a Fender one "off the shelf".
Also I'm going to the decision that I like single coil cut, as I play my P90 guitar more and more often.
So it seems logical to throw together a Fender style guitar from parts, and save a bit of cash.
Still cant shake the idea that I prefer the Gibson look though, and I dont like tremolos. I probably couldn't bring myself to buy a Strat or Tele, as they are a bit mainstream (for a reason - probably they are very well designed). But Jazzmasters, Mustangs or Cyclones do look nicer, and are more unusual.
I've tried several Strats from friends, and didn't have any problems playing them.
So a open ended question I suppose (even if it might sound lame and obvious to some) - why do people here like their Fenders? Are their any other advantages?
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l like strats because they're just comfortable to play. Plus you can bash them around a bit and they'll be fine. All the parts available for strats is a bonus too.
One thing I don't like though is the single coil pickup hum. Alot of the time it can be solved but it's just annoying.
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Strats have THE most comfortable bodies and necks to play.
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I was always a Strat hater, and I slowly was converted... then I joined a functions band where I needed to be able to play every style of music under the sun without changing guitars. A Strat is just the only guitar that can really do that.
I am a Gibson man too; I think they always look great and for what they do, there's nothing better. But I do like the responsiveness of the Fender scale length. They're just so fun to play and versatile... For a combination of playability and versatility, there's nothing to touch 'em.
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I was always a Strat hater, and I slowly was converted... then I joined a functions band where I needed to be able to play every style of music under the sun without changing guitars. A Strat is just the only guitar that can really do that.
I think that's a very good way of describing it.
I personally prefer humbuckers and, even with a coil split, it's impossible to make one sound like a decent singlecoil... but I've found it possible to recreate the humbucker sound with a true singlecoil. All I use is position 2 (bridge and middle), a clean boost for extra volume and an eq pedal set to boost the mids. You get more output and saturation on your gain and can control the top-end and really mellow it out.
Good stuff, I love my Strat.
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I think influences have a lot to do with it, too. I always thought Richie Blackmore was the epitome of cool, and he was a Strat player, so I gravitated towards Strats.
I love the headstock design, and I think they are elegant looking. Plus, you can snap the neck and have it replaced in a matter of minutes, which you can't do with a set neck or neck through guitar!!
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I like Strats and Teles for their specific tones - you can't do SRV properly on anything else. Same goes for country licks and Teles.
However, as a great all rounder you can't beat a superstrat. My Ibanez RGs are superb for that.
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I like Strats and Teles for their specific tones - you can't do SRV properly on anything else. Same goes for country licks and Teles.
However, as a great all rounder you can't beat a superstrat. My Ibanez RGs are superb for that.
Albert Lee...
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I like their tone, feel, and look. I have some Gibsons, and they are great, after I got my first set of BKPs, I found that there is life beyond the usual pickups out there in the market. No more black, white or grey. Now I truly appreciate all of these different tonalities. Everything just got richer.
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i like fender because of the Splatocaster.....I wanted one of them so badly..I still do but parents have decided that 3 guitars is enough.
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I have a Fender HM strat which I adore as the playability and neck is superb. I think Fender make guitars which feel natural to play, you can sit down and play em easy enough unlike Les Pauls and other guitars.
Oh yea and the best tone I ever heard was from a Strat Yngwie live with alcatrazz no one can touch his tone 8)
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I think that the Stats popularity stems from the fact that it was really the first volume produced electric guitar to make a big impact on the music of the day and the Strat sound came to be what everyone expected from an electric guitar. There are lots of guitars around today that are better than even the best Strats (with the possible exception of those custom built for the really big names) but everyone else is still playing catchup to the Fender Strat image. To me the F word is just a license to print money.
The Who have never sounded the same since Townsend switched to a Strat :(
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Oh yea and the best tone I ever heard was from a Strat Yngwie live with alcatrazz no one can touch his tone 8)
Some of the guitar on Live Sentence is an Aria Pro II, and a flying V was used on Desert Song. The Strat tone is particularily good on that album and video, though!!
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i like fender because of the Splatocaster.....I wanted one of them so badly..I still do but parents have decided that 3 guitars is enough.
That's a damn funky guitar. Have you seen the distortocaster though, I'd much preffer one of these beasties:
http://www.brianeastwoodguitars.co.uk/bent.html
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I think that the Stats popularity stems from the fact that it was really the first volume produced electric guitar to make a big impact on the music of the day and the Strat sound came to be what everyone expected from an electric guitar.
Yep, the manufacturing definitely helped Fender to saturate the market. But their guitars also captured the imagination of people at that time. There are countless stories of a readily-available, superior product that was relegated to the dust bins of history just because it never caught on with people-at-large. (Think Betamax)
There are lots of guitars around today that are better than even the best Strats (with the possible exception of those custom built for the really big names) but everyone else is still playing catchup to the Fender Strat image.
Yep, see my comment above.
To me the F word is just a license to print money.
Well, even Fender isn't infallible. They came to the brink of closing not-too-long-ago. They now seem to be doing just fine, though.
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[/quote]Well, even Fender isn't infallible. They came to the brink of closing not-too-long-ago. They now seem to be doing just fine, though.[/quote]
Thanks for the comments T.O. and yes they are doing just fine now but if you saw some of the stuff that comes across my work bench you'd wonder why.
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Recently, i have purchased 3 prs guitars: mccarty, custom22, and santana 3. They are as comfortable to play as fenders if not more so. I am not quite sure about the quality of their pickups so i have started replacing pickups starting with a set of mules with coil taps for the santana 3. I do not have it back yet but i am hoping for that proverbial strat/lespaul functionality in one guitar. we shall see. The custom 22 is already awesome with its dragon 2 pups but Tim thinks the VH2's would sound better in them. I dont know for sure what i will do with the mccarty(rosewood neck). I may switch out the mules and put them in the mccarty and get the abraxas for the santana 3.
Having said that, i think it is impossible to get the exact strat tone from anything other than a strat. I have an american strat with emg single coils and couldn't be happier.
jimm
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Oh yea and the best tone I ever heard was from a Strat Yngwie live with alcatrazz no one can touch his tone 8)
Oh! and by the way I have a Sunburst Strat here that's all Malmsteened up with HS3's and a YJM that's looking for a good home. :D
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i like fender because of the Splatocaster.....I wanted one of them so badly..I still do but parents have decided that 3 guitars is enough.
That's a damn funky guitar. Have you seen the distortocaster though, I'd much preffer one of these beasties:
http://www.brianeastwoodguitars.co.uk/bent.html
Now thats one strange guitar.....
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I like Strats and Teles for their specific tones - you can't do SRV properly on anything else. Same goes for country licks and Teles.
+1, basically (not necessarily just fenders, though, clones do it too).
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fenders are light, tuff, classic, damn comfy, they have a very distinctive sound, and they got a whole lotta soul. You don't have to worry about polishing em etc. Just use em, abuse em, they'll gain character, whereas other guitars just look tatty (chipped and scratched PRS's for example look eurgh, whereas a strat looks rock'n'roll). Yu can bash about a strat and not worry about the neck cracking like yu would with a LP. You can play it sitting down for hours, in absolute comfort (my LP gives me bruises). If you want a strat or tele sound nothing else will do it other than the genuine article or a copy. You can also get a decent Fender for MUCH less than a decent gibson, as fender have far superior build quality nowadays (although they're still not that great on the MIMs or Highway 1s). Fenders are also customisable, and easily servicable. You can change anything on a fender very cheaply, until it is the exact guitar that you want.
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Pete Townsend with an SG P90s (in between single coils, and humbucker) and power chords is unique. It doesn't sounds the same with the strat.
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Blimey, this thread has gained a lot of responses and I can identify with a lot of what has been said. I think that the Strat has such sexy lines-a kind of classic Cadillac of guitars.They have that twin quality of utility and cool.They are comfortable, tough and capable of being modded more readily than many.Sure they have quality control issues on occasions but then so do Gibsons.The Tele is maybe not as sexy but has that tough no nonsense vibe. They can do more, I think, than a Gibson can-as has been said, if yo8u could only have one guitar and you played in a function band or a covers band, a Strat would be thefirst choice for most I would guess. I do like Gibsons and would love, one day, to own a Les Paul and/or a 335, I feel at home with a Strat and to a lesser extent, a Tele.
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I never understand the complaint about the build quality on modern MIM fenders - the ones I have tried or owned have all been pretty good for the price - alder body, nice neck, good finishing on frets, 8oz steel block trem (which rather does make a Calahan snake oil) - its only the pickups that are bit weak, but I change them to BKPs anyway.
To me the Fender aesthetic is damn sexy - I especially like the spaghetti logo, I also find it makes the guitar play better and faster too.
I think the benefit of Fenders is the thin sound - it allows (forces) you to work for the sound rather than stamping its personality on you - at the moment I am playing with my Squier JV series strat with Mother's Milks into a HBE Big D and a Blues Junior - I can get just about any sound that I want from that combination (fortunately I don't want more gain than Southern Rock :D )
I also like Fender amps, the look of lacquered tweed is just the best and Blackface screams style. Fenders wattage rating is a genuine wattage rating (i.e. 40 watts sounds loud, not practice amp level).
Also not being a high gainer I like have a clean base to work from.
Of course if you want to play Slash type stuff or Death metal a strat and a twin are not the best places to start.
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if yo8u could only have one guitar and you played in a function band or a covers band, a Strat would be thefirst choice for most I would guess.
when you say a strat would be your number one for a covers band, i assume you mean a strat with a humbucker? I say this because i think more music from covers bands is humbucker style than single-coil. modern single coil players are quite rare aswell.
For a covers band i'd have my ibanez... does it all, and well too!
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Was a Gibbo man (well not really but own 2 :)).
But, Strat #1 copied guitar in the known world, maybe for a reason?
Very comfortable and as said before NOT nec. a piece of firewood if some eejit breaks the neck.
And lastly, they can make some darn weird but wonderful guitars.
AKA a Tele with single volume, two EMG's and a Harley Piston inlay!
I.E. my new #1 Flat Head :twisted:
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Yeah Indy I do, should have said although it is always going to be a compromise in some situations but you can cover a huge amount of ground.
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Something that hasn't been mentioned is the fact that fenders simply have a twang, hence Tokay using terms like Breezy & Springy. Thats something that is very attractive to people (especially in the 50 & 60s)
Fenders also seem to have been designed as tools rather than a piece of furniture that jazz players are 'supposed' to use.
Also the strat & tele although over 50 years in production don't look old, therefore both younger (aspiring) players and parents think they are what should be purchased.
Personally I beleive that the 'real' great gibson guitars have been ignored, the 335, firebird, all the Jr range and even the SG. Then again there where some great fenders that wher ignored
Rob...
Ermm also you can't really do much to update the shape of a LP, where as the Strat went through huge changes in image with the super strats but was still recogniseable.
Image helps :(
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I like Strats/Superstrats just because they are really comfy, light and easy to play. Since getting a HSS Charvel I dont know if I'm gonna get another H/H guitar (at least in the foreseeable future), I love neck and middle singles now - I never used to like them because they always seemed thin/twangy to me. Still not sold on bridge singles in strats (though they look better) - I just think a bridge humbucker sounds 'right'.
Really liked the feel of a few Teles I played and I agree with 38th - they have that simple no nonsense look. They just dont seem as versatile or usable for the kinda music I play. *Waits for 38th to start on the advantages of a 4-way switch* :D
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I used to only use Gibson's for many years, and then I picked up a cheap Aria strat for a band I was playing with to do Freebird. I used an SG junior at the time and the other guitarist had a Les Paul, so we needed something for the open rhythm sound. After that I got into the strat and wanted to get a nicer guitar, and I picked up a 1960 slab rosewood strat, and about 2 months later I was offered a 63 that was cut for HSS. Once I started to play the HSS I was hooked, though I did prefer the neck from the slab, so out the the screwdriver and a quick neck swap and I had it. I then picked up a 57 reissue so I had a maple neck guiitar too. At one point I was only using the Strats because the scale length and I sold off my junior (a decision I regret to this day).
I now have about 10 strats, 5 tele's and an electric XII, but I also have got into other guitars and have many Gibsons. I still think a strat with a bridge humbucker can do anything, but I also appreciate the sound of a Les Paul for some classic rock and blues tones.
For all of you who use both, are you like me, I find that it is much easier to switch from the Gibson to the Fender when you are playing, than it is to switch from a Fender to a Gibson (this is when playing a set, not from one day to the next)?
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- I especially like the spaghetti logo, I also find it makes the guitar play better and faster too.
really? i must get a spaghetti logo on to some of my guitars immediately! Fender have definately missed a marketing opportunity there, imagine how fast an Ibanez Jem would play if you added one! :lol:
( sorry Elliot, couldn't resist :oops: )
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Now did I ever mention 4 way switches for Tele's?.......................
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Most of my guitars are Gibsons (or similar) so Strats feel a bit odd to me - because of that long upper horn they seem to hang funny, so the 12th fret is where the 15th fret "ought" to be. I'm sure I could get used to it, but Teles don't have the same problem and I like the way they balance - even a heavyweight Tele is fairly comfortable on a strap.
I also think the Tele's versatility is highly underrated. OK, it has 3 sounds to the Strat's 5 - but the clean neck and middle positions on a Tele are the prettiest sounds you can get from any electric (IMO), yet in contrast to that, the bridge pickup is way tougher and snarlier than a Strat. The Tele neck pickup can even do jazz (not that I can play jazz, of course). And if you have a **four way switch** (apparently such things exist, can't think where I read it) you can even get a humbuckerish tone.
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I've had Strats & Superstrats before - never really got on with 'em. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Gibson man. I've used Les Pauls for cover bands and they cover LOTS of tonal ground if you have hot PAF types in there with variable coil taps replacing the tone pots.
I do have a Fender, but the layout is very Gibson - it's a '72 Tele Custom so I have the two volumes & tone controls plus the 3-position p/up selector just like a Les Paul.
Also, I like the way Teles sound more than Strats too AND the way the look AND the way they feel AND... (you get the idea).
:twisted:
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lots of responses! thanks for everyones thoughts. as a result i think i will try some more fenders out seriously.
what people have said about the reliabilty of fender construction, and how easy they are to repair is very convincing to me. i always fear for my flying Vs when I take them out - 100s of stories of neck fractures. fenders do indeed look cool with a bit of "road rash".
i find it reasonably easy to switch between any type of guitar, well for rhythm playing at least. the Vs and SGs I have cover the styles I play - jazz, metal, hard rock and a bit of blues. i dont think they'd be so cool for funk, country or even rock'n'roll.
still not convinced by the look of strats or teles though. i'm liking the appearance of the cyclone more and more. perhaps i could get a custom body - to take a standard 25.5" inch neck, maybe with a fixed bridge.
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I fail to see the point of a four way switch... why not get a 5-way and only use positions 2 and 4?
And I, for one, was disappointed with Fender MIM's - nothing huge that I could put my finger on, but things like unsmooth pots, (seemingly) poor quality switches, bad pickups and dodgy, warped scratchplates piss me off somewhat.
But yes, good necks and alder bodies almost make up for this.
I'm more of a superstrat guy, but as mentioned before, there are MANY things that single coils can do that Humbuckers can't.
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Strats never worked for me. I like their sound but they're not for me. On the other hand, I love Telecasters. Just about as simple as a guitar can get and still very versitile. Probably the toughest and most bulletproof guitar there is.
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when you say a strat would be your number one for a covers band, i assume you mean a strat with a humbucker? I say this because i think more music from covers bands is humbucker style than single-coil. modern single coil players are quite rare aswell.
For a covers band i'd have my ibanez... does it all, and well too!
I think it depends on the covers band. For a pub band, you'd definitely want a humbucker for all the classic rock they do. I play in a functions band which does corporate events and weddings. At that level, there's not much market for hard rock (boringly!), so we do most soul, funk, disco, and pop. For that stuff single coils are definitely the way forward. My Les Paul doesn't cut it for that gig - I've tried!
I am considering trying an HSS Strat though... the bridge single on its own doesn't see that much action, so maybe a humbucker would make the rock stuff we do (only three or four songs) a bit more macho. 8)
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The 'all rounders'?
(http://www.chrisguitars.com/fen00strat-hss-blonde.jpg)
American Fat Strat Texas Special
(http://www.chrisguitars.com/fen83teleelite-pewter.jpg)
'83 Tele Elite.
Maybe ;)
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I like the shape of the Stratocaster, and it's definitely a classic instrument (probably helped get me into the guitar- nice job, Jimi :D) but I also love humbuckers, so I don't know... I wouldn't be too keen on a Strat without at least one 'bucker.
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It's interesting how this thread has mainly come down to Fender Vs Gibson; you guys should get otu more
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You are probably right Bob I should get ourt more.
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I only play strats if they are super :P
But seriously though i can't stand any Fender guitars, i think they are ugly and extremely overpriced. The only thing i like about them is occasionaly they have nice necks and are comfortable to play.
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I would add that the quality of the MIM stuff seems to have took a nosedive recently - when I see '72 Tele Custom RIs they seem REALLY cheap and naff. My own '72 Tele Custom RI is a great guitar, plays spot on, intonates ok, classic Tele snap/twang/growl, CTS pots as stock - sounds like a vintage Tele to me (it does have pickup upgrades however but it still sounded 8/10 right out the box).
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Havn't tried any MIM recently, but the strat I was forced to sell just before christmas was excellent except for the pickups (which where better than simply OK). Thinking about it though it was dammed heavy though !
I guess things go in phases, there is probably some press release somewhere where thay have announced an expansion of the factory (and in reality they are haaving some issues)
Rob...
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I only play strats if they are super :P
But seriously though i can't stand any Fender guitars, i think they are ugly and extremely overpriced. The only thing i like about them is occasionaly they have nice necks and are comfortable to play.
So sayeth the self proclaimed guitar EXPERT here, sheesh!
Joe, maybe get some years and playing behind ya, THEN ya MAY know about stuff like that sweeping remark.
Fenders have MORE neck styles than any other guitar brand I know.
Historically their shapes are VERY varied too (gotta know some though and have looked around etc.)
As for UGLY, your SUPER strats are,hmmmm Strats AKA modelled on Fenders!
Overpriced,hmmmm, get a grip, damn you type some poop yungun.
And NO am NOT a Fender stalwart. Just you DO type some drival sometimes.
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I only play strats if they are super :P
But seriously though i can't stand any Fender guitars, i think they are ugly and extremely overpriced. The only thing i like about them is occasionaly they have nice necks and are comfortable to play.
So sayeth the self proclaimed guitar EXPERT here, sheesh!
Joe, maybe get some years and playing behind ya, THEN ya MAY know about stuff like that sweeping remark.
Fenders have MORE neck styles than any other guitar brand I know.
Historically their shapes are VERY varied too (gotta know some though and have looked around etc.)
As for UGLY, your SUPER strats are,hmmmm Strats AKA modelled on Fenders!
Overpriced,hmmmm, get a grip, damn you type some poop yungun.
And NO am NOT a Fender stalwart. Just you DO type some drival sometimes.
+1 :lol:
Although I have to say, I wasnt too impressed with the MIM strat I played about a month ago. It felt ok but its hard to tell when all guitars in shops seem to be so badly set up (9s and super low action - horrible!). Got home and played my old £200 strat copy and it immediately felt better. Kinda drifting off topic here though..
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_tom_, all guitars are different any many need 'work', glad ya like yours though.
I only just bought my first Fender guitar, but some of the ill informed cr@p written here is tbh embarressing :)
Me thinks some people should surf the web and believe all they read less and rather buy a GOOD subject book and learn :lol:
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_tom_, all guitars are different any many need 'work', glad ya like yours though.
I only just bought my first Fender guitar, but some of the ill informed cr@p written here is tbh embarressing :)
Me thinks some people should surf the web and believe all they read less and rather buy a GOOD subject book and learn :lol:
Amen to that...
As some of you know, I own a Lite Ash Strat which is right down at the low end of the Fender product line (made in Korea!) but the spec and build is incredible. Birds eye maple neck / ash body / heavy brass trem block and genuine Seymore Duncans.
I took it to Jon at Feline and had him pimp it out with Dunlop 6000 frets, tusk nut, and a rewire plus an BKP UBER SINNER and the the thing is a wolf in sheeps clothing..
It will eat a most sub £700 superstrats for breakfast and "looks stock" with its single coils :shock: :lol: :twisted:
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the mim's I tried seemed pretty decent for the price... it's the neck dimensions I didn't get on with, with them. :lol:
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Amen to that...
As some of you know, I own a Lite Ash Strat which is right down at the low end of the Fender product line (made in Korea!) but the spec and build is incredible. Birds eye maple neck / ash body / heavy brass trem block and genuine Seymore Duncans.
The Lite Ash Tele is an absolute monster too, if I hadn't been after a twin HB guitar I would have bought one. The Korean fender Esprit is also brilliant for the money, and pissed over more expensive Japanese & US guitars.
Errr: The following bit is intended to help, I have said it gently before and it's nessicary to be a little more blunt
Please stop diverting this with infantile comments about fenders suck (or whatever), yeah some do, some don't live with it.
If you don't like one fender neck style then try again with another style (fender do dozens of types).
But don't sit on your ass in the house repeating the opinions of the lonely individuals on harmony central and expecting everybody else to do the choosing for you, you will waste a lot of time and money, as well as annoying others.
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Please stop diverting this with infantile comments about fenders suck (or whatever), yeah some do, some don't live with it.
If you don't like one fender neck style then try again with another style (fender do dozens of types).
But don't sit on your ass in the house repeating the opinions of the lonely individuals on harmony central and expecting everybody else to do the choosing for you, you will waste a lot of time and money, as well as annoying others.
Exactly. I didnt like the MIM I tried but my mates older one feels really good, probably because it had been properly set up I reckon. The few teles I played were really nice as well (imho nicer than the strats).
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I only play strats if they are super :P
But seriously though i can't stand any Fender guitars, i think they are ugly and extremely overpriced. The only thing i like about them is occasionaly they have nice necks and are comfortable to play.
So sayeth the self proclaimed guitar EXPERT here, sheesh!
Joe, maybe get some years and playing behind ya, THEN ya MAY know about stuff like that sweeping remark.
Fenders have MORE neck styles than any other guitar brand I know.
Historically their shapes are VERY varied too (gotta know some though and have looked around etc.)
As for UGLY, your SUPER strats are,hmmmm Strats AKA modelled on Fenders!
Overpriced,hmmmm, get a grip, damn you type some poop yungun.
And NO am NOT a Fender stalwart. Just you DO type some drival sometimes.
Just because YOU like them doesn't mean everyone else has to, and don't say oh but you havn't played them because i have.
Also, just because you think they look nice doesn't mean everyone else thinks they do.
Super strats are modelled on Fenders yes i never said they wern't, but they are made to look a lot better and more metal than Fender's.
Basically you're saying i have to like it because you think it looks good.
Oh and overpriced, yes they are, when was the last time you saw a guitar advertised for $25,000?!
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Joe, you are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ill educated with guitars it's sad.
Firstly, Post title 'Why do you like Fenders?'
That was NOT asking for you to come along and say they are cr@p!
Second, ALL Strats are modelled from the Fender 'Stratocaster' see how that works.
I don't care what you like, look at your tag line, you apparently 'destroy' all your equipment anyway!
I did'nt say you should like them, YOU said they are UGLY!
And if you were really knowledagble you would know that Gibsons command somewhat of a high price too.
Y'know what, I really don't care. you have proved your scant knowledge yourself, not me.
I did'nt say anything about anyboody needing to like them, just trying to say that you making sweeping remarks without backup or knowledge is silly.
Heck only bought my first Fender the other day so (as I said at bottom of my post) am not exactly a Fender nut now am I? Get ya facts right.
Oh, and playing a guitar for 5 mins in a shop or whatever you do after school you will (well may) find out does NOT let you get a good impression of an instrument.
I rarely pick on ppl., just STUPID and ILL informed comments which you make abundantly.
Don't like it? I don't care!
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The Lite Ash Tele is an absolute monster too, if I hadn't been after a twin HB guitar I would have bought one. The Korean fender Esprit is also brilliant for the money, and pissed over more expensive Japanese & US guitars.
yup, the nut width defeated me on that one too! :lol:
Yep, I suck.
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^dave... what guitars CAN you play?....
:lol:
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Eggles apparently ;)
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:lol:
american fenders (some random mexican ones are ok too), ibbys, jacksons, eggle, PRS, Gibson, Gordon Smith, stuff like that.
I'm actually pretty lucky that most of the good stuff suits me. But it does mean very little of the cheap good value stuff does, lol.
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Oh and overpriced, yes they are, when was the last time you saw a guitar advertised for $25,000?!
Really this is just getting silly, how out of context can you get ?
Iv'e had enough of inane statements thios week I'm off
Goodbye !
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Joe, you are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ill educated with guitars it's sad.
Firstly, Post title 'Why do you like Fenders?'
That was NOT asking for you to come along and say they are cr@p!
Second, ALL Strats are modelled from the Fender 'Stratocaster' see how that works.
I don't care what you like, look at your tag line, you apparently 'destroy' all your equipment anyway!
I did'nt say you should like them, YOU said they are UGLY!
And if you were really knowledagble you would know that Gibsons command somewhat of a high price too.
Y'know what, I really don't care. you have proved your scant knowledge yourself, not me.
I did'nt say anything about anyboody needing to like them, just trying to say that you making sweeping remarks without backup or knowledge is silly.
Heck only bought my first Fender the other day so (as I said at bottom of my post) am not exactly a Fender nut now am I? Get ya facts right.
Oh, and playing a guitar for 5 mins in a shop or whatever you do after school you will (well may) find out does NOT let you get a good impression of an instrument.
I rarely pick on ppl., just STUPID and ILL informed comments which you make abundantly.
Don't like it? I don't care!
First of all i wasn't the only one to say i didn't like them.
Secondly your only arguement every time i say something is ohhh no experience blah blah which is bullshitee because you don't know anything about me!
Also, why did you say Gibson's have a high price, i don't even own a Gibson...
You implied that because i didn't like them (which is just my opinion!!) that i am wrong and you went off on one. You just need to calm down, lower your blood pressure and not get affected by someone else's opinion.
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Joe mate, theres a difference between expressing your opinion, and making a statement such as "Fenders are cr@p"....
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Look Joe,
I really don't care what you do or do not like.
Basically I was trying to point out you really should'nt dissmiss ANYTHING quite so easily.
Fender make a plethora of styles and necks (maybe none will suit you but I KNOW you have NOT tryed em all).
This was started to ask why people LIKE Fenders and you waded in all c--ky berating them.
In my opinion, and ONLY mine, History is important, so knowing where your Super Strats etc. originated is important and wide sweeping statements can serve to make YOU not me look silly.
Understand, basically I was in my cack handed way trying to help you to be abit more reserved and educated and not so bloody c--k sure when you are not correct, get it?
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Joe, can I suggest you retire gracefully-in fairness, the thread was about why those of us who have them or have tried them like them. Not all Fenders are $25000.00 now are they? So lets leave it there eh?
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I didn't ever say Fenders are cr@p, i just said i didn't like the way they look.
Did i say they were shite sounding, no.
Did i say that they wern't comfortable, no, in fact i said they were comfortable.
Did i say i didn't like the necks, no, in fact i said some of the necks were nice to play.
I don't know where you got all this Fender is cr@p from because i never said it.
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I didn't ever say Fenders are cr@p, i just said i didn't like the way they look.
Did i say they were shitee sounding, no.
Did i say that they wern't comfortable, no, in fact i said they were comfortable.
Did i say i didn't like the necks, no, in fact i said some of the necks were nice to play.
I don't know where you got all this Fender is cr@p from because i never said it.
talk about petty and pedantic.
if your gonna be like that; did i say you said they werent comfortable? no.
did i say you said you didnt like the necks? no.
did i say you said they were shitee sounding? no.
and your exact words were something like "i cant stand any fender guitars"
thats just as bad, if not WORSE, than "fenders are cr@p"...
you too need to calm down a bit more mate, and think about what your saying.
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Joe, you are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ill educated with guitars it's sad.
Firstly, Post title 'Why do you like Fenders?'
That was NOT asking for you to come along and say they are cr@p!
Second, ALL Strats are modelled from the Fender 'Stratocaster' see how that works.
I don't care what you like, look at your tag line, you apparently 'destroy' all your equipment anyway!
I did'nt say you should like them, YOU said they are UGLY!
And if you were really knowledagble you would know that Gibsons command somewhat of a high price too.
Y'know what, I really don't care. you have proved your scant knowledge yourself, not me.
I did'nt say anything about anyboody needing to like them, just trying to say that you making sweeping remarks without backup or knowledge is silly.
Heck only bought my first Fender the other day so (as I said at bottom of my post) am not exactly a Fender nut now am I? Get ya facts right.
Oh, and playing a guitar for 5 mins in a shop or whatever you do after school you will (well may) find out does NOT let you get a good impression of an instrument.
I rarely pick on ppl., just STUPID and ILL informed comments which you make abundantly.
Don't like it? I don't care!
First of all i wasn't the only one to say i didn't like them.
Secondly your only arguement every time i say something is ohhh no experience blah blah which is bullshiteee because you don't know anything about me!
Also, why did you say Gibson's have a high price, i don't even own a Gibson...
You implied that because i didn't like them (which is just my opinion!!) that i am wrong and you went off on one. You just need to calm down, lower your blood pressure and not get affected by someone else's opinion.
Look, I posted my last reply before seeing this one.
Get over it!
Experience, you are at school with Sambo, which makes you young and therefore not YEARS of experience as many here.
You post questions continuously (which is great) but then write stuff about experience, the two don't jive.
YOU made the mega price statement, I pointed out that it's not only Fenders by qouting Gibsons..
It was'nt your opinion that erked me but some of your misinformation, aka necks.
Joe, I remember you pm'ing and asking me questions ages ago. I helped ya all I could and hold NO malice towards you. I just think some of your posts/comments are ill informed and you should research/learn/ask more before putting ya foot in it.
Heck, as I said, I only JUST bought a Fender myself. But I know enough about them, History, types, necks, prices etc. to be a little informed.
My Petrucci would NOT exist were it not for Fender for instance.
Just think more before ya post or ask, that way ya don't make so many false sweeping statements.
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I meant i can't stand the way they look.
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well there you go then- im not having a go or anything
but that wasnt exactly clear was it?
a lot of this hassle could be saved with just a bit more thought taken about what your saying.
im not exactly one to talk as i always used to c--k up with stuff on here, and it might even just be a genuine mistake or slightly bad wording some times e.t.c.
just semi-conflicts like this can be prevented by being careful and clear Mr.Joe.
:)
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Look Joe, let it lie now.
I said I was'nt trying to berate but help you out.
There are Fenders out there from the 50's to today, trust me, one day you may fall in love with one.
Whatever you do choose, I wish you happy playing, just don't dissmiss stuff or belittle it so easily, one day ya may eat ya owns words.
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Look Joe, let it lie now.
I said I was'nt trying to berate but help you out.
There are Fenders out there from the 50's to today, trust me, one day you may fall in love with one.
Whatever you do choose, I wish you happy playing, just don't dissmiss stuff or belittle it so easily, one day ya may eat ya owns words.
I don't think Fenders were made for any kind of metal, so i doubt i'll be picking one up in the future. In fact i spend my money too fast to be able to save for one.
MAYBE, if i found one with hss, with a floyd and no pickguard. But they have never done those i don't think.
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ok, I give up!
BTW, Fender have made EVERY kind/type ya could imagine from what I have seen.
And a HSS can be VERY metal (aka Iron Maiden,and MANY others).
You don't like em 'those you have seen'. I get the picture. But wading in like ya did with nothing to back up your comments was not smartest thing to do.
Anyway, good luck.
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I don't think Fenders were made for any kind of metal, so i doubt i'll be picking one up in the future. In fact i spend my money too fast to be able to save for one.
MAYBE, if i found one with hss, with a floyd and no pickguard. But they have never done those i don't think.
(http://freespace.virgin.net/john.blackman4/images/hm1992.jpg)
"What's-a matta you, hey, got-a no respect
What do you tink you do, why you look-a so sad
It's-a not so bad, it's-a nice place....
Ah, shaddup-a you face!" Joe Dolce
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(http://www.strat-central.com/pics/strats/1986tonow/113_2700.jpg)
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, Im gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust Queen
(http://www.guitarattack.com/images/hmstrat2.jpg)
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(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/6/3/5/336635.jpg)
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no! The Who
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Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, Im gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust Queen
HAHAHAH! Brilliant :lol: Anyway, Maiden and Priest (and probably countless others) play or have played strats and you wouldnt say they arent metal.
Oh, and that white HM strat on the right in that first picture is so nice. I've only just got my new guitar and allready getting gas for one of those :oops:
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Fender... why do you like them?
I don't! :lol:
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Oh, and that white HM strat on the right in that first picture is so nice. I've only just got my new guitar and allready getting gas for one of those :oops:
:o I agree that looks mint! Kinda like RG550 but I prefer the look of the Fender.
Back on topic. I havent tried many fenders but I have an old sunburst Jap strat I got from my dad ages ago and it sounds so percussive and woody I like it a lot. Dont like the neck though, the edge of the fret board is sharp and uncomfortable when wrapping my hand around it. And its got thick lacquer on it so its quite sticky. I think its an old D shape or something. But as many said they do lots of neck shapes so Im sure there'll be many that'll suit me. I usually go for humbuckers but this thread might have reignited my single coil interests![/quote]
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apologies, i certinally didn't set out to be a troll or create some sort of flame war with my post.
anyway, i suppose this at least show the passion we have for our favourite instrument - the electric guitar.
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apologies, i certinally didn't set out to be a troll or create some sort of flame war with my post.
You've no need to apologise, you just asked a perfectly reasonable question.
Who'd have thought it would turn out to be such an interesting and heated discussion (with a bit of a diversion into the Twilight Zone)? :wink:
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^ Agreed ^
I actually found it quite amusing.
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Well... I like the tone on Strats. Not so keen on the location of the volume knob :) And I like the neck on mine. I prefer the SG/335/Les Paul DC shape though...
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apologies, i certinally didn't set out to be a troll or create some sort of flame war with my post.
You've no need to apologise, you just asked a perfectly reasonable question.
Who'd have thought it would turn out to be such an interesting and heated discussion (with a bit of a diversion into the Twilight Zone)? :wink:
well it was a reasonable question, and I got some interesting perspectives indeed.
the flaming was bit sad though - usually this forum is as classy as the pickups ;) i perhaps could have expected such a response in other internet forums i suppose, wasn't quite ready for it here though... on the other hand ;)
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i think it's fair to say that crazy joe got PWNZ3D in that arguement, but i think it's also safe to say that he's learnt something, and become a broader minded, more intelligent human being. :lol:
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I meant good looking ones, i can only see one out of that whole lot that i would want.
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Deep breaths people.
I'm gunna need to play one of those HM Strats.
:>
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i love the look of that flat head strat... not my usual style - wayyy too metal, but i'd kill to play that right now... join the legions of Dakine
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LOL @ Indy :) And at least that ones still offered by Fender (what they got against mee Tele :( lol).
And Joe, think you have made your opinion abundantly clear already.
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Not so keen on the location of the volume knob :)
Agreed, that volume knob is a knuckle bleeder.
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^ ^ ^
+A trillion
It's ideal if you don't rest your picking-hand fingers on the guitar, so you can tweak volume easily, but I do!
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Well... I like the tone on Strats. Not so keen on the location of the volume knob :) And I like the neck on mine. I prefer the SG/335/Les Paul DC shape though...
Yeah I always had problems knocking the volume on my strat copy (still do on my Charvel but getting used to it :)), so I decided to get a new pickguard made and have a master tone (never really use tone controls anyway):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/tomr61/CIMG7229.jpg)
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^ ^ ^ ^
Wow, nice axe dude!
And a good idea as well, I must try that on my strat copy...
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What a great thread; everybody has had their say, some folks have ripped lumps out of each other but that's ok. The thing to remember is that the Strat, which as you know is not my "weapon of choice" has, in it's various forms, contributed a huge amount to the development of the electric guitar. T.O. had it dead right when early on in this thread he made the "Betamax" analogy (showing your age there mate); there's was loads of stuff around in the early days that was equal to or better than a Strat but the Strat prevailed. What you should also be mindful of is that the Strats that most of your heros play are so far removed from a production Strat that they bear no resemblance. All of the mods that many of you hold up as examples of the Strat's versatility are ways of getting around it's short-comings rather than enhancing it's strengths. However having said that the Strat holds a unique place in the mind of all it's detractors and supporters and I can't ever see a time when the Strat will not be a part of our musical heritage. I don't like 'em but I do love 'em.
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What a great thread; everybody has had their say, some folks have ripped lumps out of each other but that's ok. The thing to remember is that the Strat, which as you know is not my "weapon of choice" has, in it's various forms, contributed a huge amount to the development of the electric guitar. T.O. had it dead right when early on in this thread he made the "Betamax" analogy (showing your age there mate); there's was loads of stuff around in the early days that was equal to or better than a Strat but the Strat prevailed. What you should also be mindful of is that the Strats that most of your heros play are so far removed from a production Strat that they bear no resemblance. All of the mods that many of you hold up as examples of the Strat's versatility are ways of getting around it's short-comings rather than enhancing it's strengths. However having said that the Strat holds a unique place in the mind of all it's detractors and supporters and I can't ever see a time when the Strat will not be a part of our musical heritage. I don't like 'em but I do love 'em.
You win the internet.
best post so far in this thread.
Strat's are good, but the number of mods that are made to them - since when was that an advantage?
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Strats have been compared to VW Beetles. Affordable (well, they used to be), simply built and easy to modify. That's one of the reasons they're so popular.
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I don't agree that the mods are getting round shortcomings in the strat -the mods can be done because the strat is a radio repair man's guitar, its not the design of a luthier putting together a masterwork to show off the luthier's art.
For example - I don't agree that sticking a humbucker in the bridge is overcoming a shortcoming - Buddy Holly, Dick Dale, Jimi Hendrix, Mark Knopfler didn't find the single a shortcoming - but if you want a bucker in the bridge the strat is easy to mod. The same is true of the trem system - the kahler and floyd are a response to a specific need for metal guitarists, but the above guitarists never needed such a device for their playing. The fender system is not 'a short coming' but in 1954 it was for country and western slurs not divebombing. It stick works pretty well 50 years on.
I think an important comparison would be to ask who mods Les Pauls or SGs? The answer is not many people. But that is not because a Les Paul or SG is a perfect guitar (well not for me, I hate them) but it is pretty hard to mod and because it is too expensive to put a jigsaw to. A strat was/is (custom shop aside) cheap, has big scratch plate and a production line design mentality - it is easier to tailor to a players wants than a Paul which involves obvious and damaging surgery to mod.
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Ah yes - All guitars have these short comings, but the arguement is that although Strat's are very varied - the reality is that they aren't, however, they are easy to mod and are therefore often modded to suit other styles.
If this means they're varied then ok - but in reality no individual strat is as varied as the stratocaster collection as a collective.
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Ah yes - All guitars have these short comings, but the arguement is that although Strat's are very varied - the reality is that they aren't, however, they are easy to mod and are therefore often modded to suit other styles.
If this means they're varied then ok - but in reality no individual strat is as varied as the stratocaster collection as a collective.
Maybe I'm tired (did a lot of driving today), but I have no idea what you just said at all, :lol:
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EDIT: actually, I think I got it. But the first time I read it I was like :?
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Ever so slightly to one side of topic, there is a new Haynes Manual on Strats-you know the guys who do the car maintenance books.Looks pretty good.
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Ah yes - All guitars have these short comings, but the arguement is that although Strat's are very varied - the reality is that they aren't, however, they are easy to mod and are therefore often modded to suit other styles.
If this means they're varied then ok - but in reality no individual strat is as varied as the stratocaster collection as a collective.
Maybe I'm tired (did a lot of driving today), but I have no idea what you just said at all, :lol:
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EDIT: actually, I think I got it. But the first time I read it I was like :?
i still don't understand, care to translate?
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there's was loads of stuff around in the early days that was equal to or better than a Strat but the Strat prevailed.
I'm curious - what other stuff do you have in mind?
Of course there are many playability/performance tweaks that can be made to suit individual players. And even then, playing-wise, a Strat doesn't suit everyone - personally I like them, but I'm more comfortable with an SG or Tele. Regardless, as far as I'm concerned the Stratocaster prevailed because the basic design is a work of utter genius.
The body shape, the complementary scratchplate and headstock shapes, the forearm contour and rear cutaway, the simple but elegantly functional tremolo system, the control layout, even that funky jack socket plate and angled bridge pickup. It's one of the great designs of the 20th century - cars, buildings, aeroplanes, fashion, works of art - the Strat is the equal of any of them. The thing is PERFECT. It's like a vision from God.
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I'm curious - what other stuff do you have in mind?
What immediately sprung to my mind was the early Gretsch models, specifically the White Penguin and White Falcon...
IMO, they tried too hard to make the perfect guitar, with it's gawdy white finishes and gold hardware, and they were worth the equivalent of $5000+ AUD today, but what was left was a design not nearly as memorable as the stratocaster, which was pretty much a 'budget' instrument at the time, and that's probably why you don't see too many Gretsches any more.
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Ah yes - All guitars have these short comings, but the arguement is that although Strat's are very varied - the reality is that they aren't, however, they are easy to mod and are therefore often modded to suit other styles.
If this means they're varied then ok - but in reality no individual strat is as varied as the stratocaster collection as a collective.
Maybe I'm tired (did a lot of driving today), but I have no idea what you just said at all, :lol:
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EDIT: actually, I think I got it. But the first time I read it I was like :?
+1 to that Dave... and your wierd nuts ( :lol: )
Anyways I've been following this thread for a while now and finally decided to put my 2p worth in.
I love my Fender Strats because of their Familiarity within its diversity. If that makes sense.
Its kinda like my passion for BMW's. You drive one, and love it. So you think to yourself "If the 328 drives like this I wonder what the 318 drives like? Or the M3, or the 330, or 535?" Not that I can afford any of these :( :lol:
Before you know it, you could and can drive one of its rivals. But every time you drive a BMW.... no mater what the model. Its like coming home to your favourite friend.
man I watch too much Top Gear.
Back on topic. Its the diversity of necks, Pickups and standard spec models that really make for an interesting experience every time.
Not to mention their handsome stature. For instance when I scan through any thread on this site I will quite often see the avatar of Indysmith and 38th beatle. Not to say Indy's guitar is ugly (I quite like it) but Steves, 38th beatle's, strat catches and draws my eye every time I see it.
Now I have expressed my opinion I shall gradually slip into the darkness that is the opposite side of the globe. And hope not to get flamed in my absence!
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38th beatle's strat catches and draws my eye every time I see it.
thats cause its luminous blue! stands out like a chav in a library... :lol: :lol: :lol:
nah just joking man, :) , i know what you mean...
i dont have any fenders, havent played many either... but their aesthetics are iconic... that sums it up from an 'outsiders' point of view..
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playing that Flat Head WAY more and (although maybe not ya Typical Fender) it has to be (and it's ALL personal I know) THE nicest guitar I have EVER played in my life!
Anyone want a '91 Les Paul,'89 Explorer,2005 Ltd. Edt. Petrucci, Custom Lowell SG?
Only kiddin,
for now :lol:
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i'll quite happily take all of them... :D
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I bet ya wood ;)
SG is here Monday with NEW Burnt Chrome Warpigs, but when will it leave again? ;)
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:lol: :lol: STOP!... you evil man...
well actually i am selling the ****** now for sure..... so... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
as well as my old zoom and something else that i cant remember...
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can ya hear it? off in the distance, Custom SG dulcet tones echoing along the road, sambo sambo sambo sambo! :lol:
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:x :evil:
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I kind of agree with what Bob Johnson said , but from a repairman's point of view.
Vintage style Fenders = pain in the arse
Truss rod adjuster at body end - neck needs to come off to adjust
Scratchplate mounted elecs - great in the factory but once again the whole guitr has to come apart to change , repair or do anything
Fret buzz from where the heel area of the neck gets a bit swollen and creates a ski jump/ducktail effect on the fingerboard and chokes out strings
7.25" radius and cylindrical fingerboard makes it hard to get low action and be able to bend the high E
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Ah yes - All guitars have these short comings, but the arguement is that although Strat's are very varied - the reality is that they aren't, however, they are easy to mod and are therefore often modded to suit other styles.
If this means they're varied then ok - but in reality no individual strat is as varied as the stratocaster collection as a collective.
Maybe I'm tired (did a lot of driving today), but I have no idea what you just said at all, :lol:
:drink:
EDIT: actually, I think I got it. But the first time I read it I was like :?
i still don't understand, care to translate?
I think he meant that strats weren't terribly versatile stock, it was the ease with which they were moddable that made them so versatile.
and nowadays, again, it's not necessarily any individual strat which is super-versatile, it's the large range of models which Fender offers which again makes them seem extremely versatile.
I think that's what he said. :lol:
+1 to that Dave... and your wierd nuts ( :lol: )
hehe, :drink:
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:well actually i am selling the ****** now for sure..... so... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
:?
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lol Gibson...
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^ ah, i just didn't get it because it was censored, I see why now! :lol:
why, i thought you liked it?
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^ ah, i just didn't get it because it was censored, I see why now! :lol:
why, i thought you liked it?
precisely... lol..
well yer so did i.... but after tweaking with the Jackson, amp, EQ e.t.c.... there is nothing i prefer about the gibson over the jackson.... or at least nothing that justifies keeping it....
it has made me realise what i want though- humbucker LP style guitar of some description... Gordon Smith, Yamaha AES---, Tokai, Signature e.t.c....
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woops this thread is about fenders... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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lol Gibson...
First James sells his soul to Seymour Duncan, now you're getting shot of your beloved Melody Maker....
What next? Dave Mc deciding he doesn't like Floyds anymore? TO putting tone controls on all his guitars? Crazy Joe deciding to buy a guitar and still wanting the same one a week later? :? :wink: Me writing a short sentence?
Must be the full moon...
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
well in my defence... im not betraying the stripped-down les paul club... i still want something like that.... but just.... not this one... :lol:
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^ ah, i just didn't get it because it was censored, I see why now! :lol:
why, i thought you liked it?
precisely... lol..
well yer so did i.... but after tweaking with the Jackson, amp, EQ e.t.c.... there is nothing i prefer about the gibson over the jackson.... or at least nothing that justifies keeping it....
it has made me realise what i want though- humbucker LP style guitar of some description... Gordon Smith, Yamaha AES---, Tokai, Signature e.t.c....
yup, that's a cool idea. I always thought that for most of the tones you were after, humbuckers were probably a better idea than p90's...
and sorry about the semi-hijack! :lol:
First James sells his soul to Seymour Duncan, now you're getting shot of your beloved Melody Maker....
What next? Dave Mc deciding he doesn't like Floyds anymore? TO putting tone controls on all his guitars? Crazy Joe deciding to buy a guitar and still wanting the same one a week later? :? :wink: Me writing a short sentence?
Must be the full moon...
you know, I was playing my (hardtail) eggle over the last few days, and actually decided to drop down to drop d (yup, i'm a rebel!). it took me precisely 7 seconds. man, that's so much easier than with a floyd.
But then you can't do the floydy tricks as easily.
Um... lucky for me the tremel-no came out, eh?
oh, and to stay on topic: I like Fenders.
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Ah yes - All guitars have these short comings, but the arguement is that although Strat's are very varied - the reality is that they aren't, however, they are easy to mod and are therefore often modded to suit other styles.
If this means they're varied then ok - but in reality no individual strat is as varied as the stratocaster collection as a collective.
Maybe I'm tired (did a lot of driving today), but I have no idea what you just said at all, :lol:
:drink:
EDIT: actually, I think I got it. But the first time I read it I was like :?
i still don't understand, care to translate?
I think he meant that strats weren't terribly versatile stock, it was the ease with which they were moddable that made them so versatile.
and nowadays, again, it's not necessarily any individual strat which is super-versatile, it's the large range of models which Fender offers which again makes them seem extremely versatile.
I think that's what he said. :lol:
+1 to that Dave... and your wierd nuts ( :lol: )
hehe, :drink:
You win the prize.
Even I had to try hard to decypher what I MYSELF wrote.
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I am just glad that my lovely Sonic Blue Strat gets noticed-I forgive you Indy of Smith and I salute you JP of Oz. T'was interesting what Jonathan said though abiout the vintage versions-all those points I would readily agree with. It looks great, sounds pretty good but if only it played as well as my US Strat. A mate of mine filed down the nut a little and lowered the action too much.Made the sound bad as the strings were too close to the pups and could I find my hex wrench to change it back well no I couldn't and I had to get a new one today-luckily have no gig tonight so I can sort it out.
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I forgive you Indy of Smith and I salute you JP of Oz.
Errrrr... thanks?.....what for?
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^oh dear.... :lol:
...(pssst... Indy.... ; its for not having a baby-blue strat...)
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Apologies Indy, I had a brainstorm(tough week) I meant to forgive young Sam for his Chav in a library comment.
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You win the prize.
Even I had to try hard to decypher what I MYSELF wrote.
hehe, no problem man. I only got online at about midnight last night, and I'd been away all day, and I was just like "guh???"
:lol:
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