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Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: jimm on January 30, 2007, 03:18:41 PM
I have ordered a keeley modded boss metal zone.  Anyone have any experience with it?  I have also ordered the keeley modded boss ds-1 and ibanez TS808.  

jimm
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: Zinguera on January 30, 2007, 03:25:02 PM
Hi
i owned an DS1 ultra a few years ago.
Worked great with my old marshall on the lead channel,like a good booster.
Way better than the standard DS1 for lead playing :P
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: LazyNinja on January 30, 2007, 04:14:51 PM
I've been using the Keeley MT2 as my distortion channel with my fender HRD combo for about a year. The best mode is when you have the toggle to the right! Very versatile and with a bit of tweaking you could get light crunch to hard rock to thrash to scooped sound. I found that if you use it this way it can be a bit sharp sometimes (maybe coz of the bright amp) so I stuck a compressor before the MT2 and it rounded things up very nicely. When youre setting up the pedal, start from everything at 12 oclock and work from there the EQs are very responsive and it WILL sound cr@p if you use extreme settings.

Havent used it much into an overdriven amp. I used it with a Marshall JMP and it was pure megadeth grind. That was good. Used it on my HRD and its shitee, and the same with Ashdown FA60 I had before.

If youre wanting to drive youre amp I think you'll probably find the DS-1 ultra or the TS808 better for the job. But I havent tried them. To use as a gain channel ithe MT2 will probably be better than the others.
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: jimm on January 30, 2007, 04:28:43 PM
lazy ninja,

I am a little confused.  When you say it is shitee with your hrd is that good or bad(sorry i am not sure what s-h-i-t-e means).  I think what you are saying is that it is good when metal zone is running into your clean hrd channel but not good if you are driving your distorted hrd channel.  I wanted to use it for all out distortion thru the clean channel of my mesa boogie heartbreaker to get some metal tone.  The heartbreakers distortion is more blues to hard classic rock.

jimm
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: hunter on January 30, 2007, 06:50:55 PM
well, as you've ordered all 3 pedals, you'll soon find out, right?


 8)
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: LazyNinja on January 30, 2007, 08:02:54 PM
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lazy ninja,

I am a little confused. When you say it is shitee with your hrd is that good or bad(sorry i am not sure what s-h-i-t-e means).


Hi sorry about that I meant as in bad lol. slang for sh&t I guess.
Didnt realise youre from the states.

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I think what you are saying is that it is good when metal zone is running into your clean hrd channel but not good if you are driving your distorted hrd channel.


Yes thats what I meant. it should work great in mesa's clean channel.  Could you tell me how it compares with the DS-1 when you get it?
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: Crazy_Joe on January 30, 2007, 09:45:36 PM
I hate the metal zone, all Boss distortion sounds terrible, and the Keeley version on the sound clips doesn't sound much different to what it was originally so i think it's a waste of money. Try an Electro Harmonix Metal Muff or something :twisted:
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: Canadian Steve on January 30, 2007, 09:46:14 PM
I'm using 3 Keeley pedals at the moment in my chain; MT-2, DS-1, CE-2.  I sold my 2 channel Traynor last month (great amp but too loud for my needs) and wanted something very simple but well constructed with one channel.  I've had it now for 3 weeks and it's exactly what I was after - Fender like cleans with great break up.  I use the DS-1 for classic old school Marshall -like tones and the MT-2 is great for a more scooped/modern/Mesa like tone.
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: Canadian Steve on January 30, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
I've A-Bed my old Boss MT-2 and new Keeley Twighlight MT-2 and the difference is HUGE!  The stock pedal is terrible for leads and just sounds 'tinny' overall.  The modded pedal sounds great for both single notes and chords and can even produce a very QOTSA type distortion with the guitars tone knob turned down.  The Keeley DS-1 is even better and one of the best I've tried!
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: Joe Dorcia on January 31, 2007, 12:57:44 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
I hate the metal zone, all Boss distortion sounds terrible, and the Keeley version on the sound clips doesn't sound much different to what it was originally so i think it's a waste of money. Try an Electro Harmonix Metal Muff or something :twisted:


You could not be more wrong, OMG this pedal $%&#ing screams!

Its absolutely the best metal distortion pedal ever made :-)

Love it. The toggle switch gives you three modes, being normal MT-2 but with basic mods to make it a little nicer, to the right is so $%&#ing sweet, much more real sounding and huge. Then the middle setting, OMG! you can only use the mid setting with a 4X12 as Keeley himself says it has too much bass for anything else, This pedal blew the Metal Muff out of the water, and I lover the metal muff.

A really really good mod job for rob

Joe
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: jimm on January 31, 2007, 01:14:31 AM
Joe,  

I have a 2x12 mesa boogie heartbreaker combo with 2x12 extension.  Will that do that middle mode justice?

jimm
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: Kilby on January 31, 2007, 01:38:01 AM
I have to say that with the stock setting I wouldn't touch the pedal with a 10 foot pole.

But the other 2 modes are monsters.

Joe I don't know what you are using to listening to the demos with but you need to replace them if you can't hear the difference. It moves from 2d to 3d
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: jimm on January 31, 2007, 02:47:29 AM
I am getting stoked reading these positive posts about the keeley mods.  I'll be honest, i first discovered the keeley products when i read Tims post about what he used to make some of his demo clips.  He wrote he was using a keeley modded sd-1.  I thought it was a typo and decided to get myself the ds-1 so i could get that sound when i received my nailbomb for my jackson soloist ( I later figured out he was using the sd-1 as a boost for his jcm800).  Well i went to the keeley sight and saw the other distortion pedals that were available and decided to get all three!

So now i am anxiously awaiting my bkp's and keeley mods.  Its nice to have distractions such as this 8) .

jimm
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: Bird on January 31, 2007, 03:11:46 AM
I hadn't bought or used a pedal (boss or otherwise) since the early 80's. Year or so ago I heard about Keeley and bought the DS-1 Ultra and Java Boost and was blown away. Killer pedals  :evil:
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: jimm on January 31, 2007, 03:35:53 AM
Bird,

How do you use the javaboost and what does it do in your own words(i have read the description on the keeley sight)?

jimm
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: Bird on January 31, 2007, 04:08:43 AM
Quote from: jimm
Bird,

How do you use the javaboost and what does it do in your own words(i have read the description on the keeley sight)?

jimm


It's like a treble booster with 3 different settings. By itself you can get some of those old school distortion sounds. The links to the sound clips on Keeley's site are a good representation. I like putting it before the DS-1 or amp distortion, when you kick it in it just sings. It adds some nice harmonics and some really smooth distortion. Sorry I'm not great with these kinds of "reviews". I did a clip in the players section with the DS & Java boost.. it's called Dirty Irish.
Found it
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=330&highlight=dirty+irish
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: jimm on January 31, 2007, 04:31:56 AM
Thanks Bird,  I am going to keep that pedal in mind after i have noodled around with my keeley pedals for a while :lol:

jimm
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: LazyNinja on January 31, 2007, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: jimm
I have a 2x12 mesa boogie heartbreaker combo with 2x12 extension.  Will that do that middle mode justice?

jimm


It's about bass capability more than anything, I think. If it's a closed back then it should be fine. The toggle witch to the right sounds great so you might not need it anyways.
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: jimm on January 31, 2007, 11:58:45 AM
lazy ninja,

I got you know.  The closed back cabinets will give you more bass.  The 2x12 extension has a closed back so i will give that middle mode a try when it arrives.

jimm
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: maliciousteve on January 31, 2007, 01:38:32 PM
I use the Keeley TS9-DXFlexi. Absolutly amazing pedal. I sometimes use it for the overdriven sounds when playing through my Cornford. But use it as a slight boost with my Laney. Very versatile and the switchable low end modes really help.
Title: keeley mt2 metal zone
Post by: Joe Dorcia on February 01, 2007, 07:49:31 PM
The thing about the middle setting is that on the instructions, Keeley states not to use anything less than a 2x12, i am guessing he is saying it light heartedly, but i just thought i would mention it. :)