Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Sifu Ben on February 01, 2007, 11:31:14 AM
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Well, been getting so much GAS talking to you guys that I just ordered a Dean Vendetta 4.0. Should be here in a couple of weeks. Just gotta bag a couple of overtime shifts for a pair of Cold Sweats now. I'll post some pictures when I get it.
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Good stuff buddy!
Deans are nice guitars - not my type of thing (too much like a Gibson) but when I have played them they have been lovely :D
Andy!
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Ha, I'd almost forgotten that Dean thread. Crazy Joe started it off but since then he's changed his mind about 100 times - he was last spotted in Ibanez land, I believe. :lol:
Glad somebody ended up buying a Dean, looking forward to the pics.
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:lol: yeah i was going to buy a Vendetta 4.0, but then i decided i wanted a floyd but i couldn't find anywhere in the UK that sold the Vendetta 4.0 with floyd.
That guitar will rule though.
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Whereas I'm getting it because I'm pissed off with floyds :lol:
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yeah! more deans!
im getting pretty pissed with my floyd on the razorback (tuning, maintenance etc.) so ill probably get a tremel-no.
good buy!
BM
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Floyds are GREAT, till ya break a string mid gig :)
Horse for courses ;)
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Floyds are GREAT, till ya break a string mid gig :)
Horse for courses ;)
Back up guitar?
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but why make yourself have to rely on a backup guitar? :lol: :wink: :lol:
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One would imagine if the set needs a trem guitar a backup may be in similar predicament.
And yes, a backup is preferable, pretty obvious really :roll:
Point is Floyds ARE time consuming.
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One would imagine if the set needs a trem guitar a backup may be in similar predicament.
And yes, a backup is preferable, pretty obvious really :roll:
Point is Floyds ARE time consuming.
Yes, however with a lot of practice it can be done in a matter of minutes, and the chances of a string breaking on another guitar in the same set are low. I havn't even heard of anyone breaking a string on stage, it all depends on the quality of the instrument i think.
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Hmm, how many gigs have ya played then Joe?
Or seen for that matter?
I have seen hundreds and all to often in the heat of voracious playing a string can break. Of course, with 'big' bands a guitar tech does most of the 'donkey' work and indentical guitars abound often so a change is'nt often noticed by everyone.
LOVE to see ya change a double locking Floyd set-up in minutes BTW.
Oh and BEFORE ya ask. I played out since was about 16/17 yo in bands and am now in my 30's, so played enough to know abit :roll:
And have owned a double locking Floyd guitar which could def. NOT string change in 'a matter of minutes' although a 'matter' is subjective, do you mean 5,10,20..........?
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Hmm, how many gigs have ya played then Joe?
Or seen for that matter?
I have seen hundreds and all to often in the heat of voracious playing a string can break. Of course, with 'big' bands a guitar tech does most of the 'donkey' work and indentical guitars abound often so a change is'nt often noticed by everyone.
LOVE to see ya change a double locking Floyd set-up in minutes BTW.
Oh and BEFORE ya ask. I played out since was about 16/17 yo in bands and am now in my 30's, so played enough to know abit :roll:
And have owned a double locking Floyd guitar which could def. NOT string change in 'a matter of minutes' although a 'matter' is subjective, do you mean 5,10,20..........?
I havn't played any gigs, i meant more professional bands, i have seen loads, as well as smaller bands in my town. None have broken strings, and i didn't mean me i meant other people, i mean there are plenty of youtube videos of people showing how to do it fairly quickly and they arn't even doing it at their speed. I meant 5-10 minutes really.
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By the way, i have seen 2 MAJOR whammy abusers, Children of Bodom (alex laiho) and Dragonforce, they didn't break a string in their whole set.
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Joe, I have seen thousands and it CAN be a pian in the arse!
In fact a guy I saw years ago (at end of set) broke 3 strings and was so fed up he continued into one of the BEST renditions of Silver Machine by Hawkwind I have ever heard on 3 strings :)
Point is, IMO, a Locking FLoyd 'can' be a thing of beauty. But beauty comes with a price.
I am NOT a trem lover (prefer vibrato) but sold my FLoyd guitar and went with the Petrucci which has a 'vintage' style trem, that is string through body and locking tuners. Tuning stability is immense and re-stringing is effortless.
I am NOT against Floyds just NOT my cup of tea and they DO take time to set up.
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By the way, i have seen 2 MAJOR whammy abusers, Children of Bodom (alex laiho) and Dragonforce, they didn't break a string in their whole set.
Jeez, luck has summit to do with it, no-one says a string WILL break.
Why do you continuously argue for the sake of it to make a point which is not conclusive?
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I havn't even heard of anyone breaking a string on stage, it all depends on the quality of the instrument i think.
Many years ago I read a review of a Larry Carlton gig where he broke a string mid-song, so he took out his string clippers, cut the other two treble strings and finished the song on the bass strings.
So it can happen to anyone.
Good story, but I suppose his guitar tech must have been cursing.
(edit: which is basically the same as Nick's Silver Machine story, but it's too late to delete mine now...)
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By the way, i have seen 2 MAJOR whammy abusers, Children of Bodom (alex laiho) and Dragonforce, they didn't break a string in their whole set.
Hehe there is a string breaking on one of the songs on the album though. But no they didnt break a string when I saw them either. I feel sorry for the strings on his Ibanez :lol:
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I havn't even heard of anyone breaking a string on stage, it all depends on the quality of the instrument i think.
Many years ago I read a review of a Larry Carlton gig where he broke a string mid-song, so he took out his string clippers, cut the other two treble strings and finished the song on the bass strings.
So it can happen to anyone.
Good story, but I suppose his guitar tech must have been cursing.
Lol, Philly good memory. Indeed, it CAN happen to anyone.
And FLoyds are not especially known to like downtuned guitars a whole lot either.
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By the way, i have seen 2 MAJOR whammy abusers, Children of Bodom (alex laiho) and Dragonforce, they didn't break a string in their whole set.
Jeez, luck has summit to do with it, no-one says a string WILL break.
Why do you continuously argue for the sake of it to make a point which is not conclusive?
You started it :P
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Joe,
I swore off posting because of this very situation.
I for one am tired of listening to you asking inane questions, and then later on passing off the information you gain as your own experiance.
You have done this repetidly, and it's getting to the stage where people cannot ignore you or be bother offering advice.
You are arrogant and very rude for the most part, and are ignorant of this fact.
Please for the greater good think before posting.
Most of us have phrased things badly on occasion, but this really is too much.
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Joe,
I swore off posting because of this very situation.
I for one am tired of listening to you asking inane questions, and then later on passing off the information you gain as your own experiance.
You have done this repetidly, and it's getting to the stage where people cannot ignore you or be bother offering advice.
You are arrogant and very rude for the most part, and are ignorant of this fact.
Please for the greater good think before posting.
Most of us have phrased things badly on occasion, but this really is too much.
Ok, i have no idea where this hate is coming from. WHat exactly have i done wrong in this thread, all i said was that i was going to buy a floyded version of the Dean he just bought.
Then Dakine launches an assault on floyd roses. I have no idea where you got all this from. I think you are rather cheeky for posting that because you don't know me and don't know what i do with my life, you have no idea if i have tried things or not. And what's the point in asking for advice if you can't learn from it and pass it on to others.
And where did i ask a question in this thread, more to the point what does this debate between me and Dakine have to do with you?!
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This is exactly why I'm not going to post any more
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An Assault?
Ummm, can you read english ???????????
I said that re-stringing can be a time consuming exercise and that am not a Floyd lover but HAVE owned em!
Joe, you started ALOT of cr@p last nite and trust me, from the pm's I got, made a HUGE ass of yourself.
If ya wanna upset ALL the regulars on here, all the people who have experience (real experience) then carry on.
Sheesh, NEVER EVER say I started an ATTACK when I voiced an opinion (with YEARS of gigging experience) on somthing when you have NONE by your own admission Little BOY!
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Floyds are GREAT, till ya break a string mid gig :)
Horse for courses ;)
This is YOUR definition of an ASSAULT is it?
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You know what i can't be bothered anymore with defending my cause because you simply won't listen. Big deal you have experience, so that somehow makes you superior to younger people.
From now on i won't even waste my time posting anything unless it is to do with a pickup.
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probably a safe bet.
And what does experience count for? KNOWLEDGE.
It HAS to be earnt, like an apprentiship.
Spouting stuff ya hear from elsewhere is worthless.
Superior was NEVER mentioned but if you don't think experience counts for anything, good luck with LIFE! There are countless amazing young musicians, but most got there by asking and listening and NOT arguing.
And if ya feel like you are being singled out, DO'NT.
YOU accused ME of ATTACKING Floyd equipted guitars which is BLATANTLY obvious I did nothing of the sort.
I know NOT why I even bother rising to your posts, I guess somehow I would like to think you would LEARN somthing (as I said last nite) but it seem's your 'I know EVERYTHING' attitude will always prevail.
Good Luck and Good Nite.
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For what it is worth, I do not have a Floyd equipped guitar however I have broken strings on many occasions at gigs and I do take a spare with me for that reason.Years ago, before I had a spare, the band I was in at the time had a "string breakage song" that they could do without me and the plan would be for me to get a new string on and tuned in time for the solo and I managed to get it done each time-but as I say, it wasn't a Floyd guitar, just my standard US hardtail Strat. Changing a string in 5 minutes is all very well but on stage, that is a lifetime-which is why I got myself a spare cos it relieved the presure and gave me a great excuse to persuade the missus that I "needed" another guitar.getting a new guitar is always a good thing which brings me to the thread-great stuff old chap!
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No offence to the guy, but Steve Vai's floyd abuse has put me COMPLETELY off Floyd Roses. I'm happy with the vintage trem just as long as it stays in tune ok.
CrazyJoe and Dakine, please, there is no room for your bickering here :!:
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No offence to the guy, but Steve Vai's floyd abuse has put me COMPLETELY off Floyd Roses. I'm happy with the vintage trem just as long as it stays in tune ok.
CrazyJoe and Dakine, please, there is no room for your bickering here :!:
Absolutley correct.
But do NOT expect me to sit idol after someone accuses me of launching an 'Attack' when they should first read the post and second 'by their own admission' have NO knowledge of the subject involved.
I admit, this should and was a great/friendly forum (but why try and impart some advice/knowledge/experience) when it seem's some KNOW IT ALL anyway :!: