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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Manji on February 04, 2007, 11:09:03 AM

Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Manji on February 04, 2007, 11:09:03 AM
I'm seriously considering getting a seven string guitar in order to add another dimension to my musical playing... I tune down a lot anyway, so another extra low string that means I don't have to tune down as much is always going to be a bonus :D

My question is this: does anyone have any recommendations for good seven string guitars that aren't too expensive?  I'm not going to set a budget just so I can see what kind of stuff gets suggested, but needless to say a BlackMachine isn't going to be an option- I'm a student, I don't have 2 grand lying around to spend on guitars :D

I've got my eye on a Schecter at the moment as well, so can anyone verify whether they're any good or whether they're a pile of wank?  It's the Blackjack C-7 I'm looking at.

Thanks!
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: noodleplugerine on February 04, 2007, 12:17:55 PM
If you're looknig at Schecters then a 7 string Hellraiser would do you proud.

Play nicely and have some decent equipment while being cheap.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: apmaman on February 04, 2007, 01:09:30 PM
Ibanez UV77MC
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: gingataff on February 04, 2007, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: apmaman
Ibanez UV77MC

 :lol:
Try and find one first!

A better Ibanez 7 string is the new RG8427-FE. There's a black stained flame top as well if you don't like the burst.
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/gingataff/70795_b.gif)
A snip at only 925 quid (at todays ludicrous exhange rate).
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Manji on February 04, 2007, 03:14:50 PM
That looks like a nice Ibanez, gingataff- with a tremolo bridge I see.  Where can you actually find those?
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: maxingwell on February 04, 2007, 06:33:09 PM
I've recently bought an Ibanez RG1527gk and it was a lot easier to get used to the extra string than I thought it would be. The neck is quite thin and really easy to play. The only downside is that it hasn't got an extended scale so if you want to go any lower than A or G on the 7th string it might strugle a bit - even with thicker guage strings.
The Schecters are supposed to be good though - the necks are chunkier than the Ibanez's (Ibanii, not sure what the plural of Ibanez is!???).

What ever you decide, post some pics (when you have fitted the BKPs which you are obviously going to get for it!  :wink: )
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Sifu Ben on February 04, 2007, 07:13:01 PM
Not cheap but the ESP LTD SC-607 and 607B Steph Carpenter models are seriously nice (and hard tailed). I also quite like the new hardtailed Munky signature from Ibanez. Unfortunately there are very few mid point 7 strings though  :(
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: metalmonkey on February 04, 2007, 07:15:12 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: http://www.deanguitars.com/dean_winter_07/rustycooleysig_enlarged.htm
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Sifu Ben on February 04, 2007, 07:22:56 PM
The Rusty Cooley 7 string is beautiful, but if the last NAMM was anything to go by, it won't be available for a few months  :evil:
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: metalmonkey on February 04, 2007, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
The Rusty Cooley 7 string is beautiful, but if the last NAMM was anything to go by, it won't be available for a few months  :evil:


true true but you can always import it from the U.S and get it ALOT CHEAPER to
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: noodleplugerine on February 04, 2007, 07:33:27 PM
If money's no object then a Blackmachine B7  :twisted:

It's a shame that he's got such a huge waiting list.

If you're budget's more around the £1k mark, then an Ibanez K7 is a nice guitar, although I personally wouldn't get it just because it's got someone else's name on it.

Carvin make some nice cheap 7 strings aswell, and ESP have an awesome Viper 7 string in the LTD series.

Depends if you mind Koreans or not, and your budget.

There are more 7 strings around now then I think there have ever been.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Sifu Ben on February 04, 2007, 07:42:21 PM
Quote from: metalmonkey
Quote from: Sifu Ben
The Rusty Cooley 7 string is beautiful, but if the last NAMM was anything to go by, it won't be available for a few months  :evil:


true true but you can always import it from the U.S and get it ALOT CHEAPER to

 In theory I could order a US Soltero from the states and make a huge saving, but they still haven't filled all the orders they took for it at the LAST NAMM.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: BloodMountain on February 04, 2007, 07:44:40 PM
oooo the new import soltero is available is trand black  :)

sorry for that little hijack

back to the topic of 7 strings..... i would go for a Schecter

BM
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Sifu Ben on February 04, 2007, 07:45:34 PM
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If you're budget's more around the £1k mark, then an Ibanez K7 is a nice guitar, although I personally wouldn't get it just because it's got someone else's name on it.

Going back to my recent comments about production guitars generally involving a degree of compromise for the buyer, ultimately they've ALL got someone else's name on them, they're all someone else's idea of what makes a good guitar. Why should a signature model be any different? Indeed, it may be that a signature model is closer to your ideal than the standard model.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: noodleplugerine on February 04, 2007, 07:47:10 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
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If you're budget's more around the £1k mark, then an Ibanez K7 is a nice guitar, although I personally wouldn't get it just because it's got someone else's name on it.

Going back to my recent comments about production guitars generally involving a degree of compromise for the buyer, ultimately they've ALL got someone else's name on them, they're all someone else's idea of what makes a good guitar. Why should a signature model be any different? Indeed, it may be that a signature model is closer to your ideal than the standard model.
You're right, but I'm talking aesthetically, not phillosophically :P

The fact that anyone that sees it would tell me - Hey, that's the guitar made for that guy from Korn!!! - Bound to annoy me, especially since I don't even particularly like Korn.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: metalmonkey on February 04, 2007, 07:48:12 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
Quote from: metalmonkey
Quote from: Sifu Ben
The Rusty Cooley 7 string is beautiful, but if the last NAMM was anything to go by, it won't be available for a few months  :evil:


true true but you can always import it from the U.S and get it ALOT CHEAPER to

 In theory I could order a US Soltero from the states and make a huge saving, but they still haven't filled all the orders they took for it at the LAST NAMM.



uh the soltero looks so hot.god its mighty hot.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: BloodMountain on February 04, 2007, 08:21:13 PM
i prefer hardtails....... they are pure sweet lush guitar  :)

i want a Hardtail select (import) in Trans red, then put a Nailbomb (but with a higher output!) in it.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Dennis on February 04, 2007, 09:38:49 PM
Well....a Ernie Ball / musicman John Petrucci 7-string is pretty nice!
But also not very cheap...It would be nice if there would be a OLP JPM 7-string, but they don't  :(
But if you are looking in a budget class....why don't find a more expensive guitar second hand?

I was wondering...why does everyone like Ibanez guitars?  :D
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: noodleplugerine on February 04, 2007, 09:44:38 PM
Well, Ibanez are good at everything except Pickups, and coincidentally we're on a Pickup maker's forum :P
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Dennis on February 04, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
:D  good point maybe  :D

But there are so many brands that are good, and not only Ibanez, but there are soooo many people playing Ibanez...it's the same as driving a Opel / Vauxhall..... no offence though!  :wink:
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: noodleplugerine on February 04, 2007, 09:54:51 PM
Quote from: Dennis
:D  good point maybe  :D

But there are so many brands that are good, and not only Ibanez, but there are soooo many people playing Ibanez...it's the same as driving a Opel / Vauxhall..... no offence though!  :wink:


There are alot of people recommending Ibanez, but honestly, I see very people actually using them.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Dennis on February 04, 2007, 09:58:40 PM
Lots of people use them here. And if they don't use one regularly they have one as spare...very well selling guitars here in holland!

I like the Floyds they make; like them better than the original actually...but who needs a floyd when you don't raise the tone  :)
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Manji on February 05, 2007, 12:04:18 AM
Thanks a lot guys, some really good advice here- also, roughly how much would a new Black Machine B7 cost?  The figure will probably make me clutch my desk in shock and horror, but I still want to know :D

I'm thinking I'll probably go for a Schecter, unless there's an Ibanez seven string which is pretty good quality (and not bolt-on?  Do they make set-neck guitars?) and not too expensive. :D
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: gingataff on February 05, 2007, 02:29:38 AM
Ibanez only make bolt on 7 strings. The J-Custom on page 1 is supposedly for sale in Japan only but some UK dealers do get them (they charge you a lot extra though). Some guys here have bought guitars from Japan via Ishibashi and some of the other big stores who will ship overseas. Expect to pay some duty & tax though.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Transcend on February 05, 2007, 04:08:51 AM
if you can find one a LTD M-307 theyre good solid instruments but hard to come across all they need is a pickup change.

the lower end 207 is a bit naff really due to the agathis body but they are a lot easier to come across
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: maxingwell on February 05, 2007, 08:15:05 AM
Quote from: hate_growth
if you can find one a LTD M-307 theyre good solid instruments but hard to come across all they need is a pickup change.

I've been looking out for an M307 for ages. Its a shame ESP don't make them any more. There are occasionally ones for sale on ss.org or jemsite but you'd have to get them shipped for the US.
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: maliciousteve on February 05, 2007, 11:20:32 AM
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4565

It's actually going for £650
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Transcend on February 05, 2007, 03:55:59 PM
Quote from: maxingwell
Quote from: hate_growth
if you can find one a LTD M-307 theyre good solid instruments but hard to come across all they need is a pickup change.

I've been looking out for an M307 for ages. Its a shame ESP don't make them any more. There are occasionally ones for sale on ss.org or jemsite but you'd have to get them shipped for the US.


thats exactly where ive seen them what really got to me was about 2 month ago there was one on UK ebay for £350 BIN and i didnt have any money
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: Manji on February 09, 2007, 12:46:38 AM
Also, on a somewhat related topic, how exactly does the Ishibashi webshop work?  There's some really amazing guitars on there for stunning prices, but I can't quite figure out how you order stuff.  All that Japanese. :D

Would someone who's bought from Ishibashi before be willing to PM me some instructions on how you can actually go about ordering stuff from the site?

Thanks!
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: LazyNinja on February 09, 2007, 09:21:21 AM
I speak Japanese so I could help you if you ask nicely :wink: Also there are a few people on this forum that have bought from ishibashi check the Edwards thread:
 http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5200&highlight=edwards
Title: 7 string guitars- any recommendations?
Post by: JoshuaLogan on February 12, 2007, 11:35:43 AM
ibanez prestige RG1570 or RG1527... or any other prestige 7-string

and you shouldn't be worried about the bolt-on neck construction. neckthroughs are no better... in fact, a lot of neck throughs are overly bright sounding, because most have maple necks, and in a neckthrough the maple neck goes all the way through and has the pickups on that part of the body... tonewise, I would prefer a basswood body over a neckthrough with maple neck,, although I would still prefer mahogany over that ;)

these are great guitars... people recommend ibanez so much because the playability is really incredible. throw in a good pair of pickups and you have a great sounding guitar that plays as good as any out there