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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: metalmonkey on February 04, 2007, 07:52:31 PM
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any ideas,price range up to £400 max combo,footswitch, 2chanells minimum.reverb.tube or solid state or hybird preferbale hybird because of price range.prferable without onbaord effect,but i dont mind.
few ideas.
marshall avt
randall rg g3 75
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Well if you are putting the marshall avt into the running then I would suggest looking at one of the Vox hybrid amps.
The current AVT range isn't as bad as some people claim, but there is better out there.
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Well I use this:
http://www.spectresound.co.uk/product.asp?ID=2111
(OK, I've got the old model without the DSP, but it is a great amp, great tone and really versatile)
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Well if you are putting the marshall avt into the running then I would suggest looking at one of the Vox hybrid amps.
The current AVT range isn't as bad as some people claim, but there is better out there.
Get some extra money and head after Dakines Mesa is another option ;)
yer i know bout the vox but there more modalin amps,there have too many amp presets i just want a simple 2 channel clean overdirve or even a second overdrive channel
but i think im leaning towards the randall
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Not so sure about the AVT - Low end Marshalls don't cut it for me at the moment.
Haven't heard much or anything on the Randall :S
H&K make a tube amp for about £400, 20w, 1x12 combo.
I think you can get the 5w Peavey that Satch endorses for about that aswell, which is meant to be ace.
Laney LC30 combo is about £400 I think - Never played one but Laney's tend to play nicely.
Best thing you could do is get a 2nd hand high end amp though. Look around on places like Ebay or if you have contacts in the US, (Which I've heard you saying before) then you could get a great deal.
Edit: I have the VOX AD30VT - Don't get it. Sooo much better out there, and the stupid amount of amps makes it impossible to use with pedals.
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Well I use this:
http://www.spectresound.co.uk/product.asp?ID=2111
(OK, I've got the old model without the DSP, but it is a great amp, great tone and really versatile)
hey that looks great,good price.got any sound clips.i think im going to have to try one of them out definatly.
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That Ashdown is GORGEOUS.
Have to try one.
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Not so sure about the AVT - Low end Marshalls don't cut it for me at the moment.
Haven't heard much or anything on the Randall :S
H&K make a tube amp for about £400, 20w, 1x12 combo.
I think you can get the 5w Peavey that Satch endorses for about that aswell, which is meant to be ace.
Laney LC30 combo is about £400 I think - Never played one but Laney's tend to play nicely.
Best thing you could do is get a 2nd hand high end amp though. Look around on places like Ebay or if you have contacts in the US, (Which I've heard you saying before) then you could get a great deal.
Edit: I have the VOX AD30VT - Don't get it. Sooo much better out there, and the stupid amount of amps makes it impossible to use with pedals.
i agrre with the comment about low end marshalls but for with the cash i have i cant realy be picky.i no about the h and k amp but its no quite what im after.i wil lhave a look at that laney
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what type of music do you play?
I really wouldn't recommend the avt though.
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what type of music do you play?
I really wouldn't recommend the avt though.
i play anything to be honest,but mainly i need it for my band,and since we play at school i mainly need it for pop punk kinda stuff.well basically it needs a good gain channel.but at home i play anything.
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for gain, a Randall is always good.
TG gave the randall RG (RH?) head 5 star, and said that the clean channel was ok, but the distortion channel was destructive :twisted:
also it has changeable gain from modern to lower gain on the distortion channel.
if you want quotes, just say :wink:
BM
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User Reviews on HC seem very friendly to the Laney LC30, but Harmony Central is either 10/10/10/10 or 1/1/1/2/1, so don't take me too seriously.
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for gain, a Randall is always good.
TG gave the randall RG (RH?) head 5 star, and said that the clean channel was ok, but the distortion channel was destructive :twisted:
also it has changeable gain from modern to lower gain on the distortion channel.
if you want quotes, just say :wink:
BM
yeah i played through a randall rg g3series and the gain was just well,wow,is how i would put it,and yeah it has to gain channls,classic gain for al your acdc stuff then a more metal modern gain.i found the clean to be pretty good to,well better than i thought it would be.
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sounds good....
if you really like it, then go for it!
i wouldn't try to investigate any more amps.... i would get confused!! :lol:
BM
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sounds good....
if you really like it, then go for it!
i wouldn't try to investigate any more amps.... i would get confused!! :lol:
BM
well im leaning towards th randall
but that ashdown seems tempting aswell
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I'd try the laney - They seem sexy, I've been looking around.
If you're not willing to order online for the 400, and not willing to pay the 500ish they'll ask in shops, then you can get a 2nd hand one for about 150-300.
That Ashdown does seem sweet - And it's full tube - Would deffo look at that before the Randall.
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I'd try the laney - They seem sexy, I've been looking around.
If you're not willing to order online for the 400, and not willing to pay the 500ish they'll ask in shops, then you can get a 2nd hand one for about 150-300.
That Ashdown does seem sweet - And it's full tube - Would deffo look at that before the Randall.
im having a look. :lol: seems good for price.and the vox you have,i didnt want ,becasue of the reason you dislike it,just too many amp modles,it kool for practice but not for onstage.
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The Ashdown is an all tube amp for very little money, and has a very good clean channel, as well as an awesome gain channel (and when you add the volume boost on the gain channel it's nuts). The sound is warm, full and rich, and very controlable. The EQ controls can completely change the character of it, from a honky blues crunch, to a spikey punk sound, to sludgey alternative riffs to crushing thrash tones, it does pretty much everything when it comes to Gain. The bass definition is unbelievable, and when you play a downtuned guitar through it it grabs you by the throat and roars :twisted:
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The Ashdown is an all tube amp for very little money, and has a very good clean channel, as well as an awesome gain channel (and when you add the volume boost on the gain channel it's nuts). The sound is warm, full and rich, and very controlable. The EQ controls can completely change the character of it, from a honky blues crunch, to a spikey punk sound, to sludgey alternative riffs to crushing thrash tones, it does pretty much everything when it comes to Gain. The bass definition is unbelievable, and when you play a downtuned guitar through it it grabs you by the throat and roars :twisted:
thanks for the good review,sounds very tempting,defo going to try that out.
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I'd try the laney - They seem sexy, I've been looking around.
If you're not willing to order online for the 400, and not willing to pay the 500ish they'll ask in shops, then you can get a 2nd hand one for about 150-300.
That Ashdown does seem sweet - And it's full tube - Would deffo look at that before the Randall.
im having a look. :lol: seems good for price.and the vox you have,i didnt want ,becasue of the reason you dislike it,just too many amp modles,it kool for practice but not for onstage.
Not even cool for practice, since I use a Boss ME-50, and basically I can't get any sound from the amp which isn't either a "US Hi-Gain" amp, or a 1950s boutique amp. Since I play modern death metal - not the most suitable of choices.
And you can't create your own sounds, only alter the other amp sounds, and since none of them sound too great, it's a pain in the ass.
Shame that there isn't a hi gain scooped death metal amp model >.<
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I'd try the laney - They seem sexy, I've been looking around.
If you're not willing to order online for the 400, and not willing to pay the 500ish they'll ask in shops, then you can get a 2nd hand one for about 150-300.
That Ashdown does seem sweet - And it's full tube - Would deffo look at that before the Randall.
im having a look. :lol: seems good for price.and the vox you have,i didnt want ,becasue of the reason you dislike it,just too many amp modles,it kool for practice but not for onstage.
Not even cool for practice, since I use a Boss ME-50, and basically I can't get any sound from the amp which isn't either a "US Hi-Gain" amp, or a 1950s boutique amp. Since I play modern death metal - not the most suitable of choices.
And you can't create your own sounds, only alter the other amp sounds, and since none of them sound too great, it's a pain in the ass.
Shame that there isn't a hi gain scooped death metal amp model >.<
aww poor you,just get a cheap line6spider,they have an insane channel :twisted:
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I'd try the laney - They seem sexy, I've been looking around.
If you're not willing to order online for the 400, and not willing to pay the 500ish they'll ask in shops, then you can get a 2nd hand one for about 150-300.
That Ashdown does seem sweet - And it's full tube - Would deffo look at that before the Randall.
im having a look. :lol: seems good for price.and the vox you have,i didnt want ,becasue of the reason you dislike it,just too many amp modles,it kool for practice but not for onstage.
Not even cool for practice, since I use a Boss ME-50, and basically I can't get any sound from the amp which isn't either a "US Hi-Gain" amp, or a 1950s boutique amp. Since I play modern death metal - not the most suitable of choices.
And you can't create your own sounds, only alter the other amp sounds, and since none of them sound too great, it's a pain in the ass.
Shame that there isn't a hi gain scooped death metal amp model >.<
aww poor you,just get a cheap line6spider,they have an insane channel :twisted:
Yeah, poor me :(
Spiders are far too characterless for me, my next amp will be a 2nd hand Laney half stack of some sort, or a Genz Benz if I can get my hands on them xD
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ugh Spiders always sound too processed...... i'd much rather have a proper cranked valve amp, and i can't wait to get one :) yeah its a Laney for me
BM
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I'd try the laney - They seem sexy, I've been looking around.
If you're not willing to order online for the 400, and not willing to pay the 500ish they'll ask in shops, then you can get a 2nd hand one for about 150-300.
That Ashdown does seem sweet - And it's full tube - Would deffo look at that before the Randall.
im having a look. :lol: seems good for price.and the vox you have,i didnt want ,becasue of the reason you dislike it,just too many amp modles,it kool for practice but not for onstage.
Not even cool for practice, since I use a Boss ME-50, and basically I can't get any sound from the amp which isn't either a "US Hi-Gain" amp, or a 1950s boutique amp. Since I play modern death metal - not the most suitable of choices.
And you can't create your own sounds, only alter the other amp sounds, and since none of them sound too great, it's a pain in the ass.
Shame that there isn't a hi gain scooped death metal amp model >.<
aww poor you,just get a cheap line6spider,they have an insane channel :twisted:
Yeah, poor me :(
Spiders are far too characterless for me, my next amp will be a 2nd hand Laney half stack of some sort, or a Genz Benz if I can get my hands on them xD
i was just sayom get a cheap one for a metal tone that you wont,rather than your vox.i no there pretty bad beacuse yes i had one,actualy i still have it.
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ugh Spiders always sound too processed...... i'd much rather have a proper cranked valve amp, and i can't wait to get one :) yeah its a Laney for me
BM
well there are processed,and i think everyone would rather have a proper cranked valve amp,unless they no nothing about guitars and amps lol,or if there on a very tight budget with only a small box of a room to practise in.
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they could always get a laney practice amp..... some of them are valve and a couple are dead cheap
but, like i was, if you know nothing about guitars, and you see something that says "the ultimate amp!!! the Spider delivers whatever your need is!" you would buy it! i did with the MG250DFX.
BM
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Not even using an amp at the moment, got my guitar plugged into my ME-50 straight into my PC, where I have a surround sound system going on - Recording some stuff at the moment, but in reality I can't even be bothered to go back into my amp :P
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they could always get a laney practice amp..... some of them are valve and a couple are dead cheap
but, like i was, if you know nothing about guitars, and you see something that says "the ultimate amp!!! the Spider delivers whatever your need is!" you would buy it! i did with the MG250DFX.
BM
lol yepo bin there done that with my mg100dfx and my spider was a free upgrade as my first ever amp some fender thing that come with my squier strat kept blowing up,as in ,caught of fire,lol :twisted: that amp was posesed :twisted:
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they could always get a laney practice amp..... some of them are valve and a couple are dead cheap
but, like i was, if you know nothing about guitars, and you see something that says "the ultimate amp!!! the Spider delivers whatever your need is!" you would buy it! i did with the MG250DFX.
BM
I was SOOOOOO close to buying a 30w MG, luckily it was out of stock xD
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hahahahahahhaa metalmonkey, you had amp demons!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
ahhh were straying off-topic here!!
BM
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Not even using an amp at the moment, got my guitar plugged into my ME-50 straight into my PC, where I have a surround sound system going on - Recording some stuff at the moment, but in reality I can't even be bothered to go back into my amp :P
lol i have aslo bin there and done that,with my 7.1 surround system 8) ahh twas soo fun
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they could always get a laney practice amp..... some of them are valve and a couple are dead cheap
but, like i was, if you know nothing about guitars, and you see something that says "the ultimate amp!!! the Spider delivers whatever your need is!" you would buy it! i did with the MG250DFX.
BM
lol yepo bin there done that with my mg100dfx and my spider was a free upgrade as my first ever amp some fender thing that come with my squier strat kept blowing up,as in ,caught of fire,lol :twisted: that amp was posesed :twisted:
hahahahahahhaa metalmonkey, you had amp demons!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
ahhh were straying off-topic here!!
BM
Amp Demons! xD
I've had possessed amps before - Turning themselves to full power and suprising the hell out of me when I turn them on xD
I also had a squier set when I started playing guitar (Didn't everyone?) and yeah, that stuff is painful nowadays xD
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they could always get a laney practice amp..... some of them are valve and a couple are dead cheap
but, like i was, if you know nothing about guitars, and you see something that says "the ultimate amp!!! the Spider delivers whatever your need is!" you would buy it! i did with the MG250DFX.
BM
lol yepo bin there done that with my mg100dfx and my spider was a free upgrade as my first ever amp some fender thing that come with my squier strat kept blowing up,as in ,caught of fire,lol :twisted: that amp was posesed :twisted:
hahahahahahhaa metalmonkey, you had amp demons!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
ahhh were straying off-topic here!!
BM
Amp Demons! xD
I've had possessed amps before - Turning themselves to full power and suprising the hell out of me when I turn them on xD
I also had a squier set when I started playing guitar (Didn't everyone?) and yeah, that stuff is painful nowadays xD
lol ha ha ha
oh dont remind me eww.lol i still have my strat,its staring at me now.hmmmso tempting to burn the friggin thing.
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i sold my fist ever strat ages ago
it was Behringer, it came with the Behringer GM108
Well, back then i didn't care for tone, but now i do (like hell!) i have realised just how good this practice amp is. is has warmth, power, tone, etc etc haha i bet it owns all of your little Squier amps hahaha :twisted:
BM
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i play anything to be honest,but mainly i need it for my band,and since we play at school i mainly need it for pop punk kinda stuff.well basically it needs a good gain channel.but at home i play anything.
my pick around that price would probably either be a laney vc30 or maybe a peavey classic 30- I prefer the laney, but the peavey may have a little more gain.
ashdown fallen angel or randall rg50tc would be worth a try too, and marshall dsl.
It really depends how heavy you need to get- I think I could play pop-punk with a vc30 (certainly if I could crank it), but that doesn't mean it has enough dirt for you, lol. And of course it also depends how versatile it needs to be when you aren't with your band.
The peavey windsor is a nice amp too for that 80's hot-rodded marshall type tone on a budget- it's worth a look too, the head is about £70 under budget, but you'd probably struggle to get a decent cab to go with it. and also 100 watts is a lot!
alternatively you could look second hand.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50Watt-Valve-Guitar-Amplifier-Laney-Amp-Marshall-Cab_W0QQitemZ150088620323QQihZ005QQcategoryZ10171QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ahem
Deals like that are the kind of thing I would go for.
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I got a 50W JCM800 2x12 combo (4104) for £400. You can't beat it - if i were yu i'd shop around for one! It'll do pretty much any marshall tone worth having with an sd-1 in front of it, although it'll easily do pop-punk without.
EDIT: Looking on ebay they seem to be going for about double what i paid nowadays... Lucky me i guess! You could p'haps look for a 1x12 combo instead?