Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: LazyNinja on February 12, 2007, 04:21:56 PM
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Hi all, sorry for a long post
I play and love the sound of my LP Studio, warm and thick but with the added bite and clarity from the Nailbombs. However, I have small hands and I have trouble getting around to the higher frets. If I keep my thumb on the neck, the highest I could go is about 19-20th fret on the high e string. Otherwise I'd have to take my hand off and I dont really like doing that because it's very awkward.
Im frankly getting frustrated with this and I was thinking of replacing it with something that sounds similar but with a better high fret access. I also want slim but rounded profile neck if I can because I like to grab the neck for wraparound barre chords every now and then. I find that with typical thin necks this is too uncomfortable. Something like the neck of LP studio but just slightly thinner and flatter would be ideal I think. The only worry is that I would lose warmth and sustain from a smaller neck, is that likely?
My budget would be up to ~£600, considering I get about £500 for selling my LP. the ones I've thought of so far are:
LP doublecut
Washburn WI series
Ibanez Artist
LAG Roxanne
LTD Viper 400
Explorer
Hamer USA studio (import second hand from the states)
PRS CE22/24 (used)
most of those I have no hands on experience with, so I would appreciate any info on these guitars and also any other suggestions would be useful. Thanks
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I want an ARX320, i dont like the other ibanez's in the artist range.
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Of the ones you've listed, obviously the Hamer is the best bet, but obviously relies on luck.
Check out the Dean Evo Special Select and the Hardtail Select. Actually the Hardtail Select sounds better the more I think, it's a double cut with good access, a generous neck that's a bit smaller than a Les Paul,looks killer, and it's easily in your range with change for some BKs. The feeling I got when I played it was kind of like "the best SG you've ever played" (and I've played the Viper 400).
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I've owned a few double-cutaway Hamers - the neck shapes have varied a bit but they've all been quite slim. Too skinny for me, but quite close to what you described, I think.
Gibson Explorers usually have quite big rounded necks, probably not what you're looking for.
What about a Yamaha SG or an early 80s Ibanez Artist? They're excellent, and turn up on eBay quite often.
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How 'bout a Tokai Love Rock/Love Rock II?
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If your looking for better access to higher frets the Explorer is NOT the way to go. Definatley a more chuncky neck on Tokai and Gibson.
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Oh yeah forgot about those Deans. hardtail, caddy, vendetta etc, they definitey are very attractive.
Yamaha SGxxxxs are pretty cool yeah forgot about them too. Theyre quite rare though arent they. Their tobaccoburst looks killer.
Its definitely good news that Hamers have small necks becuase there are some very good deals out there. Like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Hamer-Studio-Sunburst-Electric-Guitar-CASE-NEW_W0QQitemZ280081817419QQihZ018QQcategoryZ33042QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If it wasnt in such a nasty bright red I'd seriously considered it. Philly Q, did you try the USA models or the far eastern ones?
thanks for the ideas guys, keep them coming!
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Tokais'll have the exact same problems for him though.
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If your looking for better access to higher frets the Explorer is NOT the way to go. Definatley a more chuncky neck on Tokai and Gibson.
really? considering their shape and strap pin position I would have thought they'd be good for that.
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Although they sound a bit thinner than a Les Paul, what about some sort of SG? A fully pimped up Epi (like my '65 reissue) is within your budget, or a Gibson Special?
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Although they sound a bit thinner than a Les Paul, what about some sort of SG? A fully pimped up Epi (like my '65 reissue) is within your budget, or a Gibson Special?
I thought SGs would be too cutting. I tried a lot of Epi SGs and theyre bit brighter and thinner than LPs. I also tried lots of SG specials wasnt really impressed that much. They all tend to have suicidal tendencies too with the heavy neck and light body.
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Its definitely good news that Hamers have small necks becuase there are some very good deals out there.
If it wasnt in such a nasty bright red I'd seriously considered it. Philly Q, did you try the USA models or the far eastern ones?
Only the US ones - my much-abused '81 Special (like a Sunburst, with an unbound body) was my first "proper" guitar, and I've owned an Artist and a Special with P-90s. All variations on that double-cutaway LP Junior shape. I've also owned a couple of other Hamer models.
I suspect that Studio on eBay is a much nicer colour than it looks in the pics. Good price too.
I don't know much about the far eastern Hamers - they seem fairly low-spec so I wouldn't expect them to be very good.
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Thought that might be the case! Sounds like you want a double cut Les Paul-a-like with a 60's slim taper type neck:
Ideal candidate: Gordon Smith Graduate Double Cutaway
Alternative: Yamaha SG series (if the neck is slim enough)
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what about an ibanez ar300? nice guitars but im not sure the necks slimmer than an lp as ive never played an lp!! nice guitars though. surely your hands cant be that small :roll:
id say just try as many as you can till you find one thats comfortable!! :P
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Another vote for an Ibanez Artist, especially the older ones from the late 70's/early 80's. But the recent reissues seem to be pretty good too.
The LAG Roxanne seems to be pretty much an Artist replica.
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Have you considered the Dean Cadillac?
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All the recent talk has got me thinking that I may well get a Caddy for my Eb/drop C# guitar. Man, I've just bought a guitar, you'd think my GAS would be getting better :( Still, it should arrive this week, so maybe then it'll die down.
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Holy cr@p, that AR300 is PERFECT for me!
I can't see these on their website, i saw some really nice ones in 2006 but they dont seem to be on the website anymore? :( i don't like the proper LP style ones, but these 'double cut away' style artists are spot on for what i want.
If only they were 24 frets...
Is there an artist with 24 frets?
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Well.....What I think..... (and now everybody's going to shoot me :) )....
When you like the sound of your LP Studio, you want that LP studio, and not some other guitar, because for example a PRS does not sound like an LP. It just doesn't :D
So...why not bring the guitar to a professional who can rework the neck to shape it the way you like it?
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the gordon smiths are sweet and if you can find a second hand guild bluesbird...there great...have both so am spoilt and couldn't choose between(also love sg's have one so again couldn't choose)
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hmm, so you want good high-fret access eh? - Flying Vee, no contest.
I'd personally go for a Dean one but you've got Tokai and of course Gibson to choose from as well. Oh, and Hammer may even have something in the Vee range for you.
ahh (again), an Edwards Vee would TOTALLY rule.
:twisted:
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Oh, and Hammer may even have something in the Vee range for you.
From the USA, only the Vector Korina, which costs a ferkin' fortune.
The far-eastern (Chinese, I think) Hamer XT series Vectors look OK, but I think I'd sooner buy a Dean. Or Edwards, as you so rightly say.
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Hmmm havent really thought about Vees to be honest. I suppose it's worth giving them a try. Edwards do a nice flame maple one that looks so PG they look nice. Philly Q you had an Edwards V didnt you, how do they play? It seems like youve got all the guitars I want lol.
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Philly Q you had an Edwards V didnt you, how do they play? It seems like youve got all the guitars I want lol.
Don't know about that, I've sold a lot more than I still own! :wink: I still have my old Hamer Special and the Edwards V, but nothing else on your list.
The Edwards V is very good for the price - the workmanship and finishing are at least as good as a standard Gibson, the hardware's excellent. I'm not sure about the quality of the timbers - my V's a bit lighter in weight than I'd expect, and you can't see how many pieces the body's made from. It certainly sounds nice, very resonant with good sustain.
Playability wise, the neck is narrow but quite chunky, not the best neck I've ever played but very comfortable. Of course top-fret access is excellent.
I liked it enough to order another one - I've got a honeyburst E-FV-100STD on the way, hopefully it'll arrive next weekend! It'll be interesting to see how it compares.
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What about an Aria PE series
Well built if you get the right one
Sculpted heel - very nice!
All thats needed are some BKPs
(http://www.ariausa.com/series/PEANNIV/images/peanniv_02.jpg)
see here:
http://www.ariausa.com/titles/pe/pe.html
Shame your budget is small - otherwise I would suggest one of our guitars
Already fitted with BKPs as well!
(http://felineguitars.com/news/images/sunburst-lion-full-front.jpg)
Here is a work in progress shot that shows the heel area...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/lp-heel.jpg)
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What about an Aria PE series
Well built if you get the right one
Sculpted heel - very nice!
All thats needed are some BKPs
(http://www.ariausa.com/series/PEANNIV/images/peanniv_02.jpg)
see here:
http://www.ariausa.com/titles/pe/pe.html
Shame your budget is small - otherwise I would suggest one of our guitars
Already fitted with BKPs as well!
(http://felineguitars.com/news/images/sunburst-lion-full-front.jpg)
Here is a work in progress shot that shows the heel area...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/lp-heel.jpg)
Everytime you post a pic of a Feline you remind me more and more to save up and buy one :(
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me too...why the hole at the back?
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still say bluesbird though(second hand..not made anymore)
(http://www.guitarattic.com/Guitars/Guild%20Bluesbird%20Q.jpg)
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I liked it enough to order another one - I've got a honeyburst E-FV-100STD on the way, hopefully it'll arrive next weekend! It'll be interesting to see how it compares.
Yeah that's the one I was talking about! Very reminiscent of Ibanez rocket roll. Nice indeedy.
Feline, your guitars are work of art. Unfortunately theyre way out of my price range at the moment, but if youre still making guitars in say 10 years time I'd come to you before any Gibson any day!
I did consider the PEs but I just thought that double cuts would be better. I guess I'll have to try one if I ever come across one.
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me too...why the hole at the back?
Toggle switch hole. Doesnt the bluesbird have one too?
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yeah but ain't open...thats all
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Yeah that's the one I was talking about! Very reminiscent of Ibanez rocket roll.
Exactly what I thought! :D I always wanted a Rocket Roll but they're as rare as hens' teeth.
I also like the fact that it has the crown inlays, binding etc - it's a V trying to diguise itself as a Les Paul.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-1978-Musician-Ibanez-MC300-Electric-Guitar_W0QQitemZ180084971922QQihZ008QQcategoryZ33043QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
this is nice too...ibanez
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Fernandes Monterey Deluxe.
Miles and miles better than half the guff Gibson are turfing out for over a grand.
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How about Ruokangas Duke =) (www.ruokangas.com)
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http://www.guitar-village.co.uk/product-detail.asp?id=4010
Ever considered one of these? Guitarist in our band has one (with Mules in, of course...) - really nice guitar!
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How about Ruokangas Duke =) (www.ruokangas.com)
They're lovely guitars, but pretty pricey aren't they?
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Yes but... they are still much cheaper than a real Gibbo LP - fret access is good and the neck is very nice.
Other thought would be an Eggle Berlin Stop Tail - if you can find one for sensible money!
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They're lovely guitars, but pretty pricey aren't they?
yes :(
they are expensive, but i'm gonna buy me a one someday =)[/quote]
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You have some fantastic luthiers in Finland, Ilkka. :D
My own "dream guitar" is a Versoul (http://www.kolumbus.fi/versoul/index2.htm) Henry.
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What I got:
(http://www.fernandesguitars.com/ravelledwr.jpg)
... and the next Fernandes I shall own:
(http://www.fernandesguitars.com/meiv.jpg)
(http://www.fernandesguitars.com/mehb.jpg)
A true Les Paul-beater.
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always consider the fernandes guitars..just havn't found one for me yet
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Eastwood GP. I have one, it plays like a les paul, but with a faster neck, and brighter pickups (imitation dimarzio super 2's are stock). It can sustain for hours, and has lovely fret access.
Pretty much everything is the same as a lespaul: mahogany body, mahogany neck, rosewood fingerboard, maple carved top, les paul style controls. My favorite difference is that it is neck thru, i have one and you can VERY clearly see the lines on the back... all for CHEAP. I loves my gp.
http://www.myrareguitars.com/ultraGP.html
neck joint: http://i10.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/83/8f/7783_12.JPG
pulled form http://cgi.ebay.ca/EASTWOOD-GP-GOLDTOP_W0QQitemZ110089516476QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2384QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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Eastwood GP. I have one, it plays like a les paul, but with a faster neck, and brighter pickups (imitation dimarzio super 2's are stock). It can sustain for hours, and has lovely fret access.
Pretty much everything is the same as a lespaul: mahogany body, mahogany neck, rosewood fingerboard, maple carved top, les paul style controls. My favorite difference is that it is neck thru, i have one and you can VERY clearly see the lines on the back... all for CHEAP. I loves my gp.
http://www.myrareguitars.com/ultraGP.html
neck joint: http://i10.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/83/8f/7783_12.JPG
pulled form http://cgi.ebay.ca/EASTWOOD-GP-GOLDTOP_W0QQitemZ110089516476QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2384QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
DUDE!! You have impeccable timing, I'm always looking at the Ultra-GP's and wonder one thing... I'm convinced by everything... apart from the wrapover bridge.
I know it has adjustable saddles but how do you find it? Does it stay in tune well even with wicked bends? Easy to setup and intonante and such?
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that Ibanez and the Eastwood both look really cool. I'd add Schecter to the list too - I always think they 'play' like Gibsons but have more of a Fender look to them. Certainly worth considering AND the price is right on 'em.
checkout this one, they play SO nice (P90s too)... http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mod_1/pages/mod_1.12/pages/mod_1.12.1/pages/mod_1.12.1.1/pages/index.php?sku=1.1.1.1.1-64-224-8.111
or if you prefer humbuckers... http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mod_1/pages/mod_1.12/pages/mod_1.12.1/pages/mod_1.12.1.1/pages/index.php?sku=1.1.1.1.1-64-11700
no problem with top-fret access here... http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mod_1/pages/mod_1.12/pages/mod_1.12.1/pages/mod_1.12.1.1/pages/index.php?sku=1.1.1.1.1-6-24
this is a bit tasty too... http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mod_1/pages/mod_1.12/pages/mod_1.12.1/pages/mod_1.12.1.1/pages/index.php?sku=1.1.1.1.1-82-7721
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Yeah, those PRS Se's are extremely nice guitars to be frank.
Think the Soapbar is lurvely.
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Those Schecter Tempests look awesome and so do the Eastwoods! I'm not sure about the schecter's quality though they tend to be a bit of hit or miss. I have tried a really nice C1 Exotic at soundcontrol a while ago though.
I've tried an Ibanez SZ ages ago and I remember it had the most awful neck I've ever encountered. Maybe the top of range stufff are different I dont know.
I dont like Tremonti SE too much it's thin, light and felt like a cheap guitar (which it is, to be fair).
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DUDE!! You have impeccable timing, I'm always looking at the Ultra-GP's and wonder one thing... I'm convinced by everything... apart from the wrapover bridge.
I know it has adjustable saddles but how do you find it? Does it stay in tune well even with wicked bends? Easy to setup and intonante and such?
Its wierd to string because you have to hold it in the saddle with one hand while you use the other to stick it through the tuner and tune it, but other than that its balls easy. Usually i just get my girlfriend to hold the ball in the notch while i stretch it and wind hahaha.
Another thing to note is that it is NOT a wraparound bridge, it just has little notches where the ball end sits tightly behind the tune-o-matic bit. Also, it stays intune VERY nicely, i do full 2 step bends on every string and it comes back perfectly. (queens of the stone age solos have alot of huge bends)
Those Schecter Tempests look awesome and so do the Eastwoods! I'm not sure about the schecter's quality though they tend to be a bit of hit or miss.
Funny that you say that, my next guitar (after i sell my Jr. V) is either going to be a Tempest Custom or a BCR Mockingbird exotic or special.
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edwards...looks nice..but a bit pricy
http://www.wesleyguitars.co.uk/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=44184&c=773852&i=231305469
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edwards...looks nice..but a bit pricy
http://www.wesleyguitars.co.uk/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=44184&c=773852&i=231305469
That is a friggin rip off. You could save over £200 if you imported it from Japan yourself.
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skip the edwards, you're paying an escalated price for a cr@ppy guitar that they beat the shite out of before putting a simple circuit in it that they advertise as fancy and special. Honestly, if you wanted, i could wire in 3 push pull pots to do the same thing for ya.
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skip the edwards, you're paying an escalated price for a cr@ppy guitar that they beat the shitee out of before putting a simple circuit in it that they advertise as fancy and special. Honestly, if you wanted, i could wire in 3 push pull pots to do the same thing for ya.
I would take the cr@ppy out of that sentence and I disagree about the relic-ing I think they look pretty cool. Just replace the pups with BKP unpotted mules and its good as real, well, near enough. Gibsons are way more overpriced than the Edwards, at least when new.
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I'd add Schecter to the list too
Schecter's are great, I love the Tempest models but I'd steer clear of Epiphone solidbodies unless you plan on getting the electrics sorted out and replacing the pickups.
And the bridge on the PRS SE models is terrible, that's why I sold my Tremonti.
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Its wierd to string because you have to hold it in the saddle with one hand while you use the other to stick it through the tuner and tune it, but other than that its balls easy. Usually i just get my girlfriend to hold the ball in the notch while i stretch it and wind hahaha.
Another thing to note is that it is NOT a wraparound bridge, it just has little notches where the ball end sits tightly behind the tune-o-matic bit. Also, it stays intune VERY nicely, i do full 2 step bends on every string and it comes back perfectly. (queens of the stone age solos have alot of huge bends)
Thanks very much for the info mate, much appreciated. That bridge sounds bloody weeeeird. :?
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Thanks very much for the info mate, much appreciated. That bridge sounds bloody weeeeird. :?
its wierd, but its damn easy. I've had this thing for well over a year and i've never had problems.
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I know the pickups are Super 2 copies, I remember reading several glowing reviews when they first came out... like TG and Guitarist... and they said they cut through superbly.
How hot are the pickups? They sound pretty hot to be honest, I don't suppose you have any idea on the sort of output? Do they sound good on a clean channel... with all that top-end, I'd imagine so.
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theyre beautifully sparkly. First neck pickup i've had that isnt muddy as shite. I can go from a decent clean to awesome gain. The clean sounds somewhat accoustic, not very fat (which i can attribute to my amp), but very sparkly, almost fender twin reverb sparkly. I plug this thing into my marshall 30th anniversary head and play anything from progressive punk (fall of troy, circa survive) to stoner rock (like the Sword, High on Fire, Open Hand) to hardcore and death metal (Between the Buried and Me, Job for a Cowboy, Dark Tranquillity, Bloodbath (with a boss HM-2 of course...) It has all the gain without the muddiness.
My other guitars are a bc rich JR. V with emg 81/85, and an ibanez RG stock.
They do not have as much output as the emg's, but they have essentially the same amount of bass with slightly looser attack (to be expected when comparing passive to active), and a bit more trebel. They arent as sterile and hollow sounding.
Compared to the ibanez stocks, theyre WAY tighter, alot more output, and have slightly less bass, and a bit less mids.
I've had a problem though with old pots, and i took them into a tech who replaced them with 250k's instead of the standard 500k, which cut off some of my trebel and adding a bit of darkness. I'm upgrading to 500k once i have some free time so i can get its true tone back.
The only thing i find it lacks is a bit of punch and mids, but its amazingly clear and articulate.
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sorry..edwards I posted cause never seen them in the uk sites.....and a lot here rate them...the schecters are great guitars...have a great neck quite different to other guitars I played
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sorry..edwards I posted cause never seen them in the uk sites.....and a lot here rate them...the schecters are great guitars...have a great neck quite different to other guitars I played
Oh, no no I wasnt having a go at you at all just the website :? I cant stand these importers who mark up a great amount on the imported instruments. Talking of imports, I think the Schecters are great value in US prices, but in the UK, with the Soundcontrol being the sole distributor, theyre only average imo. Having said that, I actually cant remember too well how they played. I may go play one this weekend.
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theyre beautifully sparkly. First neck pickup i've had that isnt muddy as shitee. I can go from a decent clean to awesome gain. The clean sounds somewhat accoustic, not very fat (which i can attribute to my amp), but very sparkly, almost fender twin reverb sparkly. I plug this thing into my marshall 30th anniversary head and play anything from progressive punk (fall of troy, circa survive) to stoner rock (like the Sword, High on Fire, Open Hand) to hardcore and death metal (Between the Buried and Me, Job for a Cowboy, Dark Tranquillity, Bloodbath (with a boss HM-2 of course...) It has all the gain without the muddiness.
My other guitars are a bc rich JR. V with emg 81/85, and an ibanez RG stock.
They do not have as much output as the emg's, but they have essentially the same amount of bass with slightly looser attack (to be expected when comparing passive to active), and a bit more trebel. They arent as sterile and hollow sounding.
Compared to the ibanez stocks, theyre WAY tighter, alot more output, and have slightly less bass, and a bit less mids.
I've had a problem though with old pots, and i took them into a tech who replaced them with 250k's instead of the standard 500k, which cut off some of my trebel and adding a bit of darkness. I'm upgrading to 500k once i have some free time so i can get its true tone back.
The only thing i find it lacks is a bit of punch and mids, but its amazingly clear and articulate.
Good stuff! I've been sold on the guitar for a while, the pickups is the only concern for me.
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nah don't worry lazyninja....was just an idea..a bit pricey as you say..ain't played an edwards yet..liked the schecters...place in doncaster imports the american market ones...and they seem to have a lot in soundcontrol last time I went
PRS even cheap end seem a good guitar
How about gordon smiths http://www.fairplay.demon.co.uk/ , are handbuilt well made..great necks...and if you look under accessorys on there site they have a couple of ones on sale, especially a nice gs2(at least £100 less than normal..and will knock of even more if you don't buy there pickups(guessing BKP's are going in)
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Good stuff! I've been sold on the guitar for a while, the pickups is the only concern for me.
If you're on this forum, wont you be switching at least one of them anywa? :roll:
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The Schecter Tempests are a no brainer for the price - I always have to start upgrading bit & pieces on guitars anyway to suit my tastes. At £229 for the goldtop one you can't go wrong (I'm tempted myself).
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Good stuff! I've been sold on the guitar for a while, the pickups is the only concern for me.
If you're on this forum, wont you be switching at least one of them anywa? :roll:
Maybe, maybe not.
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If youre looking for the closest match to a les paul but with better fret access, i would say it would have to be a peavey wolfgang. You can get them with a standard stop tail bridge, the feel and tone is very simliar (as i own both). Although they dont make them anymore you can pick one up of ebay for what youve got to spend.
They really are great guitars, you wont find a better neck out there.
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I'm fairly new to this forum but thought I'd put my two pennies in.
Have you thought about an ESP. They do the Eclipse range which is Les Paul like but with a slimmer body and a much slimmer neck.
They do them with Duncan pickups (rather than the ESP active 81/85) too if you want to replace them with BKL's.
Or they have the Horizon range of double cutaways.
Check them out.
I play a Gibson Les Paul. I tried one of the eclipse guitars and was impressed. A much easier neck to play and a smaller body suits me a little better (I'm not the tallest guy!!)
I may be tempted to get one.
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ESP's are rediculously expensive for only semi decent quality. Honestly, the Eastwood GP outdoes any esp or LTD i've played, way better fretjob, not rediculously heavy, thinner neck, and it just overall sustained and sounded better.
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If I hadn't just bought 2 guitars I'd be going for this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DEAN-CADILLAC-SELECT-Transparent-Cherry-Sunburst_W0QQitemZ110093159906QQihZ001QQcategoryZ41435QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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If I hadn't just bought 2 guitars I'd be going for this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DEAN-CADILLAC-SELECT-Transparent-Cherry-Sunburst_W0QQitemZ110093159906QQihZ001QQcategoryZ41435QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
With BKPs already fitted!
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If I hadn't just bought 2 guitars I'd be going for this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DEAN-CADILLAC-SELECT-Transparent-Cherry-Sunburst_W0QQitemZ110093159906QQihZ001QQcategoryZ41435QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
With BKPs already fitted!
looks sexy to me.
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Right dude i know you probably wont listen to me but from a fellow yorkshire man but if you want an absolutly fantastic guitar and i'll guarantee it will be better than anything you will have ever played les pauls pah nothing, esp eclipse yes esp not ltd i have played, nothing compared to these, edwards nice guitars but not what your after....
What am i talking about, im talking about one of the greatest guitar companies that most people have never heard of, they only use the finest woods, ebony fretboards, and only the best parts schaller, grover, sd etc....
really i promise if you buy one of these you wont be dissapointed
Boogie Street Guitars - they take washburns and fully customise them and make them great plus there limited runs so you have something special not like les pauls or whatever....
check out the nick catanese idol guitar in there ebay shop at the minute, yes i know the price is cheap but these far surpass the quality of gibsons....
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/BoogieStreet-WorldWide-Guitar-Sales
http://www.boogiestreet.com/
anyone get one of these they are stunning guitars!
and i dont even work for them hehe
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Those Eclipses are indeed sexy.
However, when you say "Don't go for Edwards go for ESP"
Are you aware that they're the same company?
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hey lazy dont waste your money ^^^^
and they do do the idols with out the graphics have a look at their feedback in there ebay shop and click on the item number of guitars that people have bought you can see afew there.... like i said you wont get better
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Tokai super quality
Go there http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=b859fb61d3761fac28747488fe21a293
I have an LS 180 tokai guitar ....far better from all the standard gibsons
i put the abraxas on my tokai.
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mesfigas you clearly didnt read the first post. My criteria was "a guitar that sounds like a Les Paul but with a better high end access" so Les Paul copies by other brands are ruled out, unless its like feline's with a contoured heel.
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errr, I thought I'd revive this old thread rather than make a new one. It's my search for a LP toned guitar with good highend access.
I saw this
(http://www.imuso.co.uk/images/Product/EG00407.jpg)
for £299 at Drums n Bass in Huddersfield today. I tried it out and loved the neck and the action. Good deal easier to play than my Gibson. However it was quite light and plugged in it sounded quite average. I did quite like it so I'm thinking of buying it but I get this feeling I could do better with £300. What do you guys think?
The guy won't budge on the price at all btw, not even to £280. So don't tell me to haggle with him!
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Hmmm - if it's as well made as the old '80s Artists (which I guess it probably isn't), it would be the steal of the century at £300! I don't know much about the new ones though.
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On the one hand, guitars often sound average in the shop - years/months on the rack with people putting their grubby mitts all over them, scabby strings, cr@ppy stock pickups, not being able to turn the amp up etc etc.
On the other hand, a guitar should give you a "buzz" whe holding it that makes you want to get the credit card out.
It looks nice enough in the picture & sounds playable. Would you put the NBs in it?
& do you really like it enough that it could TOTALLY replace the LP?
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Nah philly, I doubt it'd be that impressive. It retails at £380 new and it was mint so its just a good saving over a new one. I prefer the brown sunburst version though so shame it wasn't that. I'm just concerned about the plugged in sound. Hope it was the pups and not the guitar that made it sound kinda unlively. It'd look great with zebra mules in it.
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On the one hand, guitars often sound average in the shop - years/months on the rack with people putting their grubby mitts all over them, scabby strings, cr@ppy stock pickups, not being able to turn the amp up etc etc.
On the other hand, a guitar should give you a "buzz" whe holding it that makes you want to get the credit card out.
It looks nice enough in the picture & sounds playable. Would you put the NBs in it?
& do you really like it enough that it could TOTALLY replace the LP?
Yeah I agree with the buzz thing. I was like, hey this guitar is sweet when I was playing it unplugged and when I plugged it in I thought, meh.
I'm not looking to totally replace the LP though. Still gonna keep it.