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Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 05, 2007, 03:08:32 AM
Well, Tim should be (hopefully) winging his way back to England at this point in time.

Thanks to a long layover @ Newark airport, Tim was able to spend the day with Phil King and m'self.

I took NYC transit out to Hoboken where I met up with Phil, and then we drove up to Newark to pick up Tim. What followed was about 7 hrs, all of them very enjoyable, that was by turns inspiring & entertaining.

Thanx to Phil for driving and supplying his most excellent home/guitar laboratory. Tim sat perched in Phil's living room for most of the day just shredding away on various guitars, relaxing and swapping stories.

A few things of note:

- Tim is a scary guitar player. He can play everything from Yngwie to Jimmy Page and all points between with aplomb.

- Tim is totally passionate about music, guitar playing, and Bare Knuckle pickups.

- Tim is a font of knowledge regarding all kinds of aspects of playing guitar, gigging, running a business, etc ... and he's not stingy with his knowledge!

By the time we dropped Tim off at the terminal, I felt like I had been in a master class all day; it was definitely a learning experience for me. I was so pleased to see that, tonally, my taste is not that far off from Tim's.

Phil can tell you all the guitars & amps that were played; I lost track. All I know for sure was that we played through my live rig for a fair amount of time. (Splawn Quick Rod/Hiwatt 4x12)

I can't begin to get into all the subjects we discussed (from crazy gig stories to the Green Man; the nature of good pizza to getting a good guitar tone for solos)

So: Thanx again to Phil for being the coolest host this side of the Rio Grande, and to Tim for being a good friend, great guitarist, and inspiring figure!
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 05, 2007, 03:11:53 AM
Sounds freaking awesome :>

Hope I get to meet him at LGS.
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 05, 2007, 03:14:19 AM
A couple of pics ...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/TimPhilBen.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/TimPhil.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/TimBen1.jpg)
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: lulusg on March 05, 2007, 08:16:31 AM
Thanks for sharing Ben. So Tim is a down to earth guy, great. :)
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: ToneMonkey on March 05, 2007, 08:45:13 AM
So whos who then?  :lol:

I know that's TO in the Newcastle shirt (Geordies pop up everywhere), you can always spot them as they only wear Newcastle shirts.
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: _tom_ on March 05, 2007, 09:11:48 AM
Tims the one with long hair and Phil is the other one :)

Did you find out when the new Iced Earth album with him playing on it will be released? Looking forward to it for the tone as much as anything :twisted:
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: ToneMonkey on March 05, 2007, 09:32:07 AM
Should have guessed, everyone in Cornwall has long hair  :lol:
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Antag on March 05, 2007, 10:39:10 AM
I feel so much better about buying gear made by someone who looks like a rock warrior :)
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: PhilKing on March 05, 2007, 11:40:20 AM
)It was a great day.  Just to reiterate what TO said, Tim is an incredible player. I will now try to list the equipment we used:

Guitars
Tim's Terry Morgan 1959 Les Paul Clone - with Mules - just an incredible guitar
1953 Les Paul conversion to 58 specs, with Black Dogs
1967 335 with unpotted Stormy Mondays
1964 Firebird III - all original
Nash 1957 aged Strat with Van Zandt pickups
1957 Strat with Apaches (sounded so much better than the Nash  8) )
Bacchus Zemaitis with Emerald/Mule combo
Super Strat with Holy Diver/2xTrilogy Suites
1990 PRS Standard with Rebel Yells
1957 Tele with Brown Sugar/Slowhand
Ibenot - Ibanez body/Warmoth neck Nailbomb/Slowhand/Cold Sweat
1971 John Birch J1 - original John Birch Pickups

Tim also did a quick rendering of Ace or Spades on my Rickenbacker bass which I was just setting up!!

For amps we used:

Mini-Mat with Matamp 1x12 with heritage G12M
Splawn Quick Rod with Hiwatt 4x12 (Fanes) or Ear Candy 1x12 (Celestion Sidewinder)
McIntyre Bluesmaker 20w with Avatar 2x12 with Eminence Tonespotters or Ear Candy 1x12

Effects (used very sparingly)
Klon Centaur
ArielFX Wah

Tim played everything equally jaw dropping.  It didn't matter if it was the Firebird with old Gibson mini humbuckers or the super strat with the HD/TS set.  The John Birch was brought out for 2 reasons, one was because I thought Tim would like it (it is a phenomenal sound - just totally early 70's heavy rock but with clarity on all notes), and secondly to try to persuade him to build a pickup with that sound!!!

The time passed really quickly, it was great to see Tim again and I'm looking forwards to seeing everyone at LGS in a couple of months.
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: carlaz on March 05, 2007, 12:11:47 PM
Quote from: PhilKing
Tim also did a quick rendering of Ace or Spades on my Rickenbacker bass which I was just setting up!!

Just for the record, I want to reiterate that if BKP ever do more with bass pickups, and they do some tasty Ric replacements, I'll get some for my '76 4001 in a heartbeat! :)  

(Meanwhile, 'cause they don't, I'm thinking of swapping the resin-potted Bartolini in my 4001's bridge for a stock Rick HB1.  I dig the 'bucker thing even in my Ric. :)  And if I felt super keen, I could ask BKP to rewind the HB1!)

Quote from: PhilKing
The John Birch was brought out for 2 reasons, one was because I thought Tim would like it (it is a phenomenal sound - just totally early 70's heavy rock but with clarity on all notes), and secondly to try to persuade him to build a pickup with that sound!!!

Mmmmm! 8) Do you have more "tasting notes" on the Birch pups?
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: PhilKing on March 05, 2007, 12:20:36 PM
Quote from: carlaz
Quote from: PhilKing
Tim also did a quick rendering of Ace or Spades on my Rickenbacker bass which I was just setting up!!

Just for the record, I want to reiterate that if BKP ever do more with bass pickups, and they do some tasty Ric replacements, I'll get some for my '76 4001 in a heartbeat! :)  

(Meanwhile, 'cause they don't, I'm thinking of swapping the resin-potted Bartolini in my 4001's bridge for a stock Rick HB1.  I dig the 'bucker thing even in my Ric. :)  And if I felt super keen, I could ask BKP to rewind the HB1!)


My Ric is a checkerboard 72, and has been modified a lot over the years (i bought it with no pickups).  It has a schaller bridge (there is a maple block inlaid where the Ric bridge was), a Basslines Musicman bridge and a toaster top Ric neck.  It also has active tones from an old RC Greco circuit.  It lost the lacquer on the fingerboard years ago when I had it refretted.  I asked them to clean off the fingerboard as I prefer thar feel.

I have just ordered a Jazz set for a 62 Stack pot that I an having built by john Elliott at Bravewood guitars.  My P-bass set is amazing, so I am sure that the Jazz will be equally awesome!
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 05, 2007, 12:47:39 PM
Quote from: _tom_
Did you find out when the new Iced Earth album with him playing on it will be released? Looking forward to it for the tone as much as anything :twisted:

I think Tim said that the single will be released in June, and it will have 3 songs. I forget the names of the songs, though. PDT_008
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Sekhmet on March 05, 2007, 05:00:07 PM
Awsome stuff, interestingly enough i was discussing Tims unreal guitar abilities to some of the guys at Mansons as they had never heard clips of him playing.

Really looking forward to the new Iced Earth stuff, does anyone know if Tim will be doing any solos?
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Davey on March 05, 2007, 05:06:34 PM
cant wait for LGS!!!
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 05, 2007, 05:15:27 PM
Quote from: Sekhmet
Really looking forward to the new Iced Earth stuff, does anyone know if Tim will be doing any solos?

Tim is doing all the solos. (Schaffer does not do solos)
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: chrisola on March 05, 2007, 07:11:22 PM
sounds like a great day!!

i cant wait til august, get to see Mr Mills in Iced Earth live... and say 'hmm yeah he handwound my pickups in my guitar he did!' ;)
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: JamesHealey on March 05, 2007, 07:33:13 PM
haha, tim even looks like a rock star.

loving those tattoos, im coverd in them myself..  8)
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Philly Q on March 05, 2007, 09:32:53 PM
Can't wait to see how the full-force Mills Factor affects the Iced Earth sound!
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: dave_mc on March 05, 2007, 09:46:58 PM
i dig tim's t-shirt. That'd have been a cool day. :drink:
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: 38thBeatle on March 06, 2007, 07:31:23 AM
Tim is a great musician and a very approachable bloke too.I am a bit disappointed that I am not going to be able to get to LGS this year now that I have far more experience of BKPs than I did last year when I had just one set.
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: JamesHealey on March 06, 2007, 08:36:48 AM
i met tim years ago at Music Live in Birmingham but didn't buy a set of BKP's until a few years afterwards but I remember playing a few of his les pauls and thinking they were absolutely outstanding.

I tried a cornford and a few music man JPM's out that year, and a crate blue voodoo which to me sounded like a bad 5150.. ooh and I went to the ENGL booth coz i was playing engl gear and tried the Savage 120 and Powerball..
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on March 06, 2007, 09:10:02 AM
Hahahahahahaha
Excellent
i thought tim was older.he looks younger than i expected
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Sekhmet on March 06, 2007, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Quote from: Sekhmet
Really looking forward to the new Iced Earth stuff, does anyone know if Tim will be doing any solos?

Tim is doing all the solos. (Schaffer does not do solos)


I thought that would be the case, sounds like its going to be awsome :-)
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: broken cord on March 06, 2007, 03:48:56 PM
That day must of been a treat for Phil's neighbors too, I can picture them lining up at the door trying to pay admission to come in. :wink:

I must have been a great day to be sure. Hails to Tim.
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 06, 2007, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: Sekhmet
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Quote from: Sekhmet
Really looking forward to the new Iced Earth stuff, does anyone know if Tim will be doing any solos?

Tim is doing all the solos. (Schaffer does not do solos)


I thought that would be the case, sounds like its going to be awsome :-)

It's Iced Earth. If you like IE albums of the past, you will like this one. If not, aside from the solos, there's not going to be much different. I know Tim brought some riffs to the table, but I don't know if they were changed much after they went through the Schaffer Triplet Machine.
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Sekhmet on March 06, 2007, 06:25:08 PM
Heh Shaffer is a bit of a Rythm Monster, might have to go listen to Horro Show now.
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Dennis on March 06, 2007, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: WITH FULL DISTORTION
Hahahahahahaha
Excellent
i thought tim was older.he looks younger than i expected


Are you sure you don't mix Tim up with Seymour Duncan now?  :D
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Davey on March 07, 2007, 02:55:30 PM
Quote from: Sekhmet
Heh Shaffer is a bit of a Rythm Monster, might have to go listen to Horro Show now.

just a bit?  :twisted:
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 07, 2007, 07:19:26 PM
Sounds like a very cool day!!  8)
Title: My day with TIM MILLS ...
Post by: Tim on March 07, 2007, 09:36:04 PM
Just wanted to say thanks to Ben and Phil for a great day in NY. A fantastic  chance to chill and be with friends especially after 3 extremely long days in the IE studio(11am to at least 2am the following day-every day!!).Phil's guitars are seriously great and I had a lot of fun trying out all sorts of things I'd never had the chance to play before-also Ben's Splawn(serious tone machine) and awesome Hiwatt cab. Thank you so much guys, looking forward to seeing you at LGS and maybe NY again if not before!