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Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: siN on March 06, 2007, 08:45:53 PM

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: siN on March 06, 2007, 08:45:53 PM

I'm a proud owner (received today) of a VHII humbucker.

But I'm looking at the wiring and this is what I see:
- one ground wire
- one black wire
- one red wire
and it seems that the white and green wire are connected together (under some black tape of wire-shield).

1st question:
Can someone tell me if this is braided two conductor of four conductor?


2nd question:
I want to connect this pickup on a five-selector. Do I have the right pickup and/or wiring?


I'm sorry if my English isn't too well, my native language is Dutch...

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: WezV on March 06, 2007, 09:12:39 PM

so you have a red, black, white and green wire + the ground wire - thats 4 conductor.

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: Guitarzan on March 06, 2007, 09:15:27 PM

Quote from: sIN

1st question:
Can someone tell me if this is braided two conductor of four conductor?

That would be a 4-conductor

Quote from: sIN

2nd question:
I want to connect this pickup on a five-selector. Do I have the right pickup and/or wiring?

With a 5-way switch you can make the pickup coil tap. So, yes you have the right pickup.

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: siN on March 06, 2007, 09:18:01 PM

Quote from: WezV

so you have a red, black, white and green wire + the ground wire - thats 4 conductor.

Quote from: WezV

so you have a red, black, white and green wire + the ground wire - thats 4 conductor.

Ok. Thanks for your answer. I'm not that techy at all and I thought maybe I got the wrong wiring.

The green and white wire are connected to each other and it seems to be shielded in black tape or so.

It looks like I can only use (soldering) the black, red and the ground....

Title: Re: Braided two conductor or four conductor, which do I have
Post by: HTH AMPS on March 06, 2007, 09:18:29 PM

Quote from: siN

I'm a proud owner (received today) of a VHII humbucker.

But I'm looking at the wiring and this is what I see:
- one ground wire
- one black wire
- one red wire
and it seems that the white and green wire are connected together (under some black tape of wire-shield).

1st question:
Can someone tell me if this is braided two conductor of four conductor?

2nd question:
I want to connect this pickup on a five-selector. Do I have the right pickup and/or wiring?


I'm sorry if my English isn't too well, my native language is Dutch...

(1) four conductor.  the two taped together are to connect the two coils in series (i.e. standard humbucking configuration)

(2) yes, this pickup is fine to use with a 5-way switch (assuming we're talking about a Strat-type guitar?).  the red wire will go to the selector switch, the black and 'bare' wires both connect to ground on the back of the pots.

checkout a wiring schematic here... http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/1h_2s_1v_2t_5w.html

 :twisted:

Title: Re: Braided two conductor or four conductor, which do I have
Post by: siN on March 06, 2007, 09:26:02 PM

Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL

(1) four conductor.  the two taped together are to connect the two coils in series (i.e. standard humbucking configuration)

(2) yes, this pickup is fine to use with a 5-way switch (assuming we're talking about a Strat-type guitar?).  the red wire will go to the selector switch, the black and 'bare' wires both connect to ground on the back of the pots.

checkout a wiring schematic here... http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/1h_2s_1v_2t_5w.html

 :twisted:

Thanks for your answer and the wiring scheme.


Just one last question to be sure:
When I use the wiring scheme on my strat-type guitar (Ibanez), the Humbucker can function as a single coil in position 4 (from the 5)?



I'm sorry, but I just want to be sure before I open my guitar....

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: siN on March 06, 2007, 09:31:14 PM

Adding a small webcam pic:

Upper (unshielded) wire is black.

Than 2 wires connected together (shielded?): White and Green.

Lower (unshielded) wire is red.

The most right (totally unshielded) wire is the ground.


Please don't let the shades fool you....



Repeat of the one last question to be sure:
When I use the wiring scheme on my strat-type guitar (Ibanez), the Humbucker can function as a single coil in position 4 (from the 5-selector)?

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: Doog on March 07, 2007, 02:55:11 AM

ok assuming you've got the same pickup configuration as me (HH with 5-way switch so position 4 is inside coils of both pickups and position 2 is neck in parallel... if you have HSH then disregard this post).  for the bridge pickup all you need to do is remove the black insulation cover from the green and white wires and attach it to the switch for the coil tap - you don't need to separate the two wires.  the green and white wires on the neck pickup however need to be separated in order for the pickup to operate in parallel

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: siN on March 07, 2007, 07:46:57 AM

Quote from: Doog

.... all you need to do is remove the black insulation cover from the green and white wires ....

Thanks for your reaction.

My setup is HSH.

I think the black insulation cover on the green and white wires has confused me. It's my first time opening a guitar.....

I also think that removing this cover is the solution to my problem.

Final question:
Do I break my lifetime-warranty when I remove that black insulation cover?


(I'm sorry if I don't know the correct English words... native language is Dutch)

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: Doog on March 07, 2007, 06:04:43 PM

well even with HSH, if you want to split the coils you'll have to take the insulation off the green and white wires and solder them to the pickup switch.  make sure you remember where all the wires were attached from the old pickup and pay attention to the wiring diagram that came with the pickup and you shouldn't have any problems

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: Philly Q on March 07, 2007, 06:09:40 PM

Quote from: siN

Final question:
Do I break my lifetime-warranty when I remove that black insulation cover?

No, I'm sure you don't - the insulation's only there to stop the pickup shorting out if the green/white wires come into contact with other wires or metal parts.

Here's an HSH wiring diagram that will split the coils of the humbuckers in positions 2 and 4 on the switch:

http://www.dimarzio.com/media/diagrams/C.pdf

It's a DiMarzio diagram, so you need to convert to BKP colour coding:

DiMarzio:  Red, White+Black, Green
BKP:         Red, White+Green, Black

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: siN on March 07, 2007, 06:55:46 PM

Philly,

Thanks. I think that's the info I was after...


Where does BPK describe their color codings compared to other pickup-manufacturers?

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: Philly Q on March 07, 2007, 07:05:40 PM

Quote from: siN

Philly,

Thanks. I think that's the info I was after...


Where does BPK describe their color codings compared to other pickup-manufacturers?

There's a good colour codings chart here:

http://www.guitarelectronics.com/category/wiringresources.11pickupcolorcodes

BKP aren't listed, but they use the same coding as Tom Anderson.

Title: Do I lose my lifetime-warranty removing black insulation cvr
Post by: gingataff on March 08, 2007, 12:25:47 AM

BKP never compare their products to other manufacturers but if you're technical the colour codes are here (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/faq.html#13).