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Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 10, 2007, 04:29:03 PM: Each time I listen to my Strangers in the Night cd I want a vee, but I never really liked the look of the Gibson headstocks.. I just saw the ad for these on Harmony Central, they look so good and have a great headstock! I like the slight offset as well, subtle yet effective.

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/set_neck_series/volcano.html

(http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/set_neck_series/hi-res/volcano_cream_lg.jpg)

Are Reverend generally good quality? They're only $499!

I wont be able to afford one for some time but its something to consider for the future :twisted:
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: dave_mc on March 10, 2007, 04:48:15 PM: dunno, they look pretty nice, and the mags say they're good, but that depends how much you trust the mags. They certainly look pretty nice on paper. Only thing I dislike (on paper) is the darn nut width (42mm). There's a conspiracy out against me, I swear.

:lol:

EDIT: just in case it's not clear by this, I haven't tried them, so they could be awful for all I know.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: the_bleeding on March 10, 2007, 05:47:43 PM: see if you can find one, and play it, and tell us how it is.... I love wierd lookin guitars....
Title: Re: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: Philly Q on March 10, 2007, 06:19:33 PM: Quote from: _tom_
Each time I listen to my Strangers in the Night cd I want a vee, but I never really liked the look of the Gibson headstocks.. I just saw the ad for these on Harmony Central, they look so good and have a great headstock! I like the slight offset as well, subtle yet effective.

I think you need a V shaped headstock to harmonise with the body shape, but each to his own. :wink:

Obsessed with customising as I am, I think it's a bit weird that the controls are on the scratchplate but the switch is on the body. That'll make rewiring a nightmare, unless the scratchchplate's only cosmetic and there's a rear cavity.

Still, nice looking guitar. I like the hint of Firebird with the raised centre section.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 10, 2007, 06:32:57 PM: Hmm yeah it might make it a bit of a bitch to re-wire, cant be that bad though.. I cant find these anywhere in the UK to buy :( Dolphin Music stock Reverend but not the V's. Guess its kinda a good thing in the way, because it'll stop me spending all my money :lol: And yes, I think the raised middle looks really good.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: BloodMountain on March 10, 2007, 07:14:55 PM: that looks cool...... except for the headstock, which just doesn't fit in in my book.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: dave_mc on March 10, 2007, 07:15:53 PM: to be honest, I'm not all that fussed on the V, I'm with philly on the headstock front- but several of the other reverends look pretty nice.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 10, 2007, 10:41:33 PM: I guess I'm the only one who likes the headstock then :lol: Theres something about the proper gibson one.. it just somehow makes the guitar look like a toy to me, thats the best I can describe it, weird I know.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: BloodMountain on March 10, 2007, 10:47:57 PM: i'm not saying this headstock is bad, it just looks completely out of place to me.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: Philly Q on March 10, 2007, 10:57:41 PM: Quote from: _tom_
I guess I'm the only one who likes the headstock then :lol: Theres something about the proper gibson one.. it just somehow makes the guitar look like a toy to me, thats the best I can describe it, weird I know.

This ain't no toy! :twisted:

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/michael20schenker2001.jpg)
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 10, 2007, 11:36:21 PM: hmm very true, it actually looks perfect there.. I think I may like it after all :lol: Whenever I think of it in my head it seems to be wider and rounder than it actually is, weird I know :?
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: Philly Q on March 11, 2007, 12:07:07 AM: Quote from: _tom_
Whenever I think of it in my head it seems to be wider and rounder than it actually is, weird I know :?

Well, the V headstock shape has varied a LOT over the years. Schenker's guitar in that picture is a 1975. The current Gibson V headstock is a bit longer and pointier, like a mid/late 1960s model.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 11, 2007, 12:11:44 AM: Ah I see, I didnt know that. So was it just 60s and 70s that had the thinner, pointier headstocks?

The one I'm thinking of is kinda short and stubby, which doesnt look very good imho. Planning the next guitar purchase allready and I havent even finished upgrading my Charvel yet :lol:
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: Philly Q on March 11, 2007, 12:46:02 AM: The original '58 V headstock was quite wide and pointed, the '60s ones were a little narrower with a very elongated point.

Then in the 70s they got smaller and more rounded. The most rounded of all were the early '80s V2 models, which I must agree are pretty ugly!

The current Gibson "V-Factor" is pretty close to '67 spec.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM: Just looked up that V-Factor:

(http://www.gibson.com/Files/images/flyingv-guitar.jpg)

Nice!
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: maverickf1jockey on March 11, 2007, 09:33:37 AM: I don't really like the V but i do think it is far better than the Jackson and BC Rich distortions of the concept. It is ridiculously easy to build - so no real craftsmanship is involved, It has poor upper fret access because of the neck joint and it dives like an ordinance bomb. Sitting for me is fine because you can put the lower leg between your legs so that the neck tilts upwards.
With a few modifications though it can become a KICK ASS guitar:

Through neck
The wings moved down so that they don't get in the way
24 fret
Floyd
Roller knobs
Caparison style headstock
Holoflash finish
Maple fretboard
satin neck
BKPs :twisted:
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 11, 2007, 10:42:06 AM: Caparison style headstock?! Even worse than the chunky v ones! I wouldnt want a floyd either, too much hassle and I'd never really use it.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 11, 2007, 10:50:23 AM: HOW DARE YOU insult Caparison Headstocks!

They're the coolest and smoothest looking headstocks in existance!
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 11, 2007, 10:56:13 AM: They look like a pixies boot, and a very gay pixies boot at that! :lol:
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: BloodMountain on March 11, 2007, 10:57:39 AM: Quote from: noodleplugerine
HOW DARE YOU insult Caparison Headstocks!

They're the coolest and smoothest looking headstocks in existance!

i agree, but they too only go with certain body shapes..... and unsurprisingly, they go best with Caparison body shapes!
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 11, 2007, 11:12:30 AM: True that it wouldn't look great on a V, but saying it suits a Caparison shape is a bit silly xD

It's just a standard super strat shape xD
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: BloodMountain on March 11, 2007, 11:15:17 AM: Quote from: noodleplugerine
True that it wouldn't look great on a V, but saying it suits a Caparison shape is a bit silly xD

It's just a standard super strat shape xD

you got me there.
restatement:
looks great with a super strat shape :P
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: gingataff on March 11, 2007, 01:40:19 PM: My favourite V at the moment is the Greco Zemaitis V, really tasty but unfortunately Kanda Shokai have the clunkiest website so finding a picture to share with you has so far been impossible.
Doh! just found a pic http://www.two-five.net/newlist.html#gzv
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: hunter on March 11, 2007, 01:49:50 PM: I want a V in this style please :P
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 11, 2007, 03:51:34 PM: Quote from: hunter
I want a V in this style please :P

Hell yeah :D
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 11, 2007, 05:10:10 PM: (http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/4700/kittyvet8.jpg)

8)
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: Philly Q on March 11, 2007, 07:33:39 PM: :lol: I'd buy that!

But it needs a pink headstock too.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 11, 2007, 07:58:20 PM: Pretty ace :p
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 11, 2007, 08:12:12 PM: Had to be done:

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/200/schenkerkittyqf6.jpg)
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: Philly Q on March 11, 2007, 08:14:46 PM: Now you really have hit Rock Bottom....
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 11, 2007, 08:20:48 PM: Hopefully no one will want to Shoot Shoot me for creating it.. or that bad pun :oops: :D
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: the_bleeding on March 11, 2007, 10:26:15 PM: $%&#... that V has been added to my GAS list.

also on the list:
bc rich mockspecial
bc rich exotic classic
schecter tempest custom
eastwood hummingbird
...

i wish i could win the lottery right about... ... ...NOW
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: gwEm on March 13, 2007, 09:34:56 AM: philly q ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

that hello kitty V looks ace! i'd buy one ! needs a cream cold sweat ;)

the reverend would look the bollocks with an explorer head stock...
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 13, 2007, 11:25:25 AM: It does look good!

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2127/veeum3.jpg)

hmm.. guess I'd better save for a Feline custom now :lol:
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: BloodMountain on March 13, 2007, 05:26:26 PM: wow...... a gibson flying V with 80s headstock :lol: awesome!!!

i had a brainwave the other morning....... A RAZORBACK EXPLORER!

basically an explorer with both of the pointy bits near the neck razorback-ified! my brother is currently photoshopping....
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 13, 2007, 05:39:09 PM: Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN
wow...... a gibson flying V with 80s headstock :lol: awesome!!!

i had a brainwave the other morning....... A RAZORBACK EXPLORER!

basically an explorer with both of the pointy bits near the neck razorback-ified! my brother is currently photoshopping....

Just did a quick one - doesnt look too bad (better than the "proper" razorback in my opinion):

(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/8646/razorbackyg8.jpg)
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 13, 2007, 06:20:12 PM: Give that a through neck and a nice finish - would be ace.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: BloodMountain on March 13, 2007, 06:44:59 PM: yeah, that looks very good, although the angle on the biggest point is slightly too acute for an explorer. can you use your IMMENSE PS skills to change that? i basically want a standard Explorer shape, just looking like a razorback......
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: Mr Ed on March 13, 2007, 06:48:33 PM: If you wanted that to look more "Explorer"-like then try splitting the headstock so it'd be like a pointy take on the classic banana style.

But blimey, that's a brilliant mockup! You should seriously send that off to Dean. I'd put a lot of money on him making it.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: BloodMountain on March 13, 2007, 07:13:40 PM: Quote from: Mr Ed
If you wanted that to look more "Explorer"-like then try splitting the headstock so it'd be like a pointy take on the classic banana style.

But blimey, that's a brilliant mockup! You should seriously send that off to Dean. I'd put a lot of money on him making it.

nooooo you need the V headstock...... although you can always experiment

but seriously, try the standard Explorer proportions, _tom_, for me :D
pleeeeeeeaaaaase!

thanks
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 13, 2007, 08:03:29 PM: Ok, hows this? btw I'm by no means a photoshop expert, I'm really sloppy at it compared to what some people can do with it :lol:

(http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/5852/guitar2oc5.jpg)

added a background for coolness
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: BloodMountain on March 13, 2007, 08:08:09 PM: NAILED IT!!!!!!!! wow, now i can't wait to get hold of one, despite how long it will take me to get the money and the waiting list :D oh yeah an finding the right custom builder.......

thanks dude, love the background too. it looks great!

edit: wow, also saw that you've done a fixed bridge!!!! perfect!!!!
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 13, 2007, 08:12:24 PM: it does look pretty good, preferred it with the gibson style headstock though to be honest, I've never liked dean 'stocks :P
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: Ratrod on March 13, 2007, 08:16:35 PM: That Razorback Explorer (or should I say Z) looks killer.

Would be nice in that two tone finish that they do along with amber knobs and that V style bridge.

Seriously, you should send that pic to Dean.
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: _tom_ on March 13, 2007, 08:17:57 PM: Cheers, I'll send it in a minute :) I dont know what to put in the message though?!
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: Ratrod on March 13, 2007, 08:28:00 PM: Check out this topic on the Dean Forum. Plenty of fotoshopping.

http://www.deanguitars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18585&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=razorback&start=0
Title: New Reverend flying V copies
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 13, 2007, 08:39:18 PM: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/noodleplugerine/Razorback3.png)

Was going for something more like this myself.

(Sorry for aliasing, couldn't be bothered to do anything cept wand.)