Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Jhiggins on March 12, 2007, 08:58:55 PM
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Well, my "why has my topic been deleted" thread has been deleted with no explanation for either deletion.....
So, I know whos pickup's I wont be buying... Due to the content of the posts being deleted theres obviously somethig to hide.
Good bye to a highly censored forum.
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Well, my "why has my topic been deleted" thread has been deleted with no explanation for either deletion.....
So, I know whos pickup's I wont be buying... Due to the content of the posts being deleted theres obviously somethig to hide.
Good bye to a highly censored forum.
i agree it is a bit fishy................ but that won't stop me buying the Warpig. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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HOW DARE A COMPANY PREVENT ADVERTISING FOR OTHER COMPANIES ON THEIR OWN FORUM.
You'd undoubtably do the same.
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HOW DARE A COMPANY PREVENT ADVERTISING FOR OTHER COMPANIES ON THEIR OWN FORUM.
You'd undoubtably do the same.
i think it was the fact that the aforementioned pickup was VERY similar to the Warpig in many ways.
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HOW DARE A COMPANY PREVENT ADVERTISING FOR OTHER COMPANIES ON THEIR OWN FORUM.
You'd undoubtably do the same.
Yeah, its basic business.. you dont pay to advertise other peoples products!
But, if you're willing to compromise your tone because of something so stupid then its your loss :)
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I agree that other pickups should be open for discussion in off topic.
But this is a private server and BK can regulate the discussion in whatever way they see fit.
And its a valid point that people here are in the market for pickups, and this forum is essentially an advert for BK. It doesnt make sense to discuss them here (bar, in my opinion, off topic)
Its worth pointing out that though your post was deleted, Tim has approved of soundclips of other pickups going head to head with BKs in the players room:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7453
Scroll down just a little. I'd say thats as far from 'something to hide' as you can get. Looks more like 'bring em on' to me 8)
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Your loss.
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I agree that other pickups should be open for discussion in off topic.
But this is a private server and BK can regulate the discussion in whatever way they see fit.
And its a valid point that people here are in the market for pickups, and this forum is essentially an advert for BK. It doesnt make sense to discuss them here (bar, in my opinion, off topic)
Its worth pointing out that though your post was deleted, Tim has approved of soundclips of other pickups going head to head with BKs in the players room:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7453
Scroll down just a little. I'd say thats as far from 'something to hide' as you can get. Looks more like 'bring em on' to me 8)
yeah, i agree with that too. i would be pretty pissed if i saw someone spewing out other manufacturer's names in my forum..... nay, outraged!
i just think that one company may have stolen the idea of the Warpig off BKP. Take 'em down, Tim :shock: :shock:
nah, i've even forgotten the name of that company now, and i had never heard of them before, so i think BKP won't be affected in the slightest.
BKP's advertising is awesome...... they're in all of the magazines!
plus this forum pwns every other handmade pickup forum.
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Censorship is the removal or withholding of information from the public by a controlling group or body. BKP have hardly removed or withheld info on these other guys from anyone ... just off their private forum.
I'm sure anyone buying pickups will properly research a set of manufacturers, and make their decision based on balanced research and not just by reading the forum for a single manufacturer that anyone would expect to be biased and edited by the owner, and habituated by peoploe who love the product :)
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I agree that other pickups should be open for discussion in off topic.
But this is a private server and BK can regulate the discussion in whatever way they see fit.
And its a valid point that people here are in the market for pickups, and this forum is essentially an advert for BK. It doesnt make sense to discuss them here (bar, in my opinion, off topic)
Its worth pointing out that though your post was deleted, Tim has approved of soundclips of other pickups going head to head with BKs in the players room:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7453
Scroll down just a little. I'd say thats as far from 'something to hide' as you can get. Looks more like 'bring em on' to me 8)
+1 on the general sentiments in this post. :drink:
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I think we're pretty free to discuss most things on this forum - if a competitor's products are advertised here it's fair game to expect that Tim would object.
:twisted:
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I know that some threads can end up going on at great length
It is also true that Tim pays for the bandwidth on this forum and when the forum gets big it costs more.
So it could be that paying (literally and metaphorically) for people to promote and advertise other brands just seems too far to accept.
I'm sure that Tim doesn't want all threads to say other brands are rubbish and only BKP are any good - rather a sensible discussion of the finer points of each and what benefits people have found with BKPs
This forum does inform and educate but at the end of the day is part of a business site designed to sell BKPs, and as such maybe some editorial input comes into play from the admin of the site.
I will point out that neither Ol or Tim are overly heavy handed on this forum and cut a huge amount of slack to us guys
And if as the other posters have said the companyt under discussion has stolen designs or marketing ideas - why should Tim give them the oxygen of publicity on a forum that He has to pay for
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^ +1
Jhiggins, we will be very sorry to lose you and your valuable contribution of 7 posts.
Feel free to sit in a packed theatre and shout "fire" when the lights go down - your mission to expose the limits of free speech will no doubt be as appreciated there as it was here.
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I think either way "This is Tim's house, it's Tim's rules"
Wish he'd put the kettle on more though.
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I think either way "This is Tim's house, it's Tim's rules"
Wish he'd put the kettle on more though.
:lol:
An explanation of the deletion(s) would be appreciated, just so we know what to avoid saying in the future :)
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I think either way "This is Tim's house, it's Tim's rules"
Wish he'd put the kettle on more though.
:lol: Genius! :lol:
An explanation of the deletion(s) would be appreciated, just so we know what to avoid saying in the future :)
Maybe a PM to the thread-starter, at the very least.
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I removed the threads because I didn't like the direction they were going in basically, also there were several objections from other forum members who shared a similar concern.Constructive discussion, no problem but if someone wants to talk about APC or whoever then they can do it on that companies forum or one of the general epuipment forums.
I put this forum up several years ago to promote and discuss BKPs and provide a friendly and informative atmosphere for people to discuss guitar playing and music.....objective discussion and comparisons to other brands isn't a problem but I'm not prepared to promote other brands in any shape or form as they rightly wouldn't do so to our company.
Censorship.............I don't think so, just trying to keep the forum generally on topic, a friendly and informative place and good place to come to learn about BKPs.
At the end of the day it's my company and I make decisions in it's best interest. On the whole I've been really pleased with the way the forum conducts itself, there's alot of information and some great demos on tap. The vibe is friendly and mature, way more so than alot of forums on the internet and that's the way I'd like it to stay.
A big thank you to all of you who try your best to keep things objective and running smoothly!
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Seems reasonable to me.
Thanks for chipping in on this and clarifying your stance on it, Tim.
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MDV - I think you should give that Yoda avatar up to Tim :D
Kettle putting on is he. :lol:
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It's on! :lol:
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hehe Calm down now tim.... :lol: we all love you don't worry your like the father who left us all but who still sends us the best presents at christmas....
please come back daddy.... hehe
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Pretty much what I thought the "problem" was, and cheers Tim for explaining it in your own words.
Wise builder of excellent business is he.
;)
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I removed the threads because I didn't like the direction they were going in basically, also there were several objections from other forum members who shared a similar concern.Constructive discussion, no problem but if someone wants to talk about APC or whoever then they can do it on that companies forum or one of the general epuipment forums.
I put this forum up several years ago to promote and discuss BKPs and provide a friendly and informative atmosphere for people to discuss guitar playing and music.....objective discussion and comparisons to other brands isn't a problem but I'm not prepared to promote other brands in any shape or form as they rightly wouldn't do so to our company.
Censorship.............I don't think so, just trying to keep the forum generally on topic, a friendly and informative place and good place to come to learn about BKPs.
At the end of the day it's my company and I make decisions in it's best interest. On the whole I've been really pleased with the way the forum conducts itself, there's alot of information and some great demos on tap. The vibe is friendly and mature, way more so than alot of forums on the internet and that's the way I'd like it to stay.
A big thank you to all of you who try your best to keep things objective and running smoothly!
So, what exactly didn't you like about "the way it was going" no one was saying that the other companies pickups were better, quite the opposite infact.
This still doesn't explain the deletion of the other post, the only thing in that was BLOODMOUNTAIN saying "look at this company trying to rip of BKP"
The only other things mentioned in the topic was the BKP factory and its staff.
I cant see any promotion myself.
objective discussion and comparisons to other brands isn't a problem
This is exactly what was happening.... whats the problem!!
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Let it go, already.
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cheers for the reply, tim. Seems reasonable to me too. I agree, this is (generally) a pretty mature and cool forum to hang out at compared to a lot of the ones out there.
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Let it go, already.
Sorry, are you some kind of authority on this forum? You seem to like telling people what to do.
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Let it go, already.
Sorry, are you some kind of authority on this forum? You seem to like telling people what to do.
He's not telling you what to do, he's trying to stop you making a bigger t*t of yourself than you already have... :roll:
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Let it go, already.
Sorry, are you some kind of authority on this forum? You seem to like telling people what to do.
Tim is. He OWNS it. Literally, it belongs to him. And he's made himself quite clear, I think.
Stick around for a while and you'll see that this really is a nice place, friendly, relaxed and open.
And for the record, TO is well respected here (with good reason), and a cool guy. Youre dishing out a fair old hard time for a fella thats been here five minutes, I must say. Please show some more respect.
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Listen mate, I'm fairly new around here, so I'm certainly no sort of authority, I'm also not telling you what to do, but here's how I see what's going on:
You posted a thread talking about other pickups, I'm not sure if that was your first post, but it must have been somewhere near. The man who's virtual front room you are virtually sitting in didn't like the way the conversation was going and stopped it. He has a business to think about and once your head is in business mode, there is no mercy.
You started this thread bitching about how, in your opinion, the thread shouldn't have been deleted and started spouting off about how you wont be buying BKP's and that you were out of here. Tim gave a perfectly reasonable explaination and your still here, bitching at him in his own house.
I've had people like you in my actual (not virtual) front room and I've thrown them out.
And from what I can work out from my time here, Twighlight Odyssey isn't an authority figure, but he's well respected for being an alright bloke.
So please, put the kettle on on your way out and don't slam the door, you'll scare the cat.
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and don't slam the door, you'll scare the cat.
Wins.
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Let it go, already.
Sorry, are you some kind of authority on this forum? You seem to like telling people what to do.
Tim is. He OWNS it. Literally, it belongs to him. And he's made himself quite clear, I think.
Stick around for a while and you'll see that this really is a nice place, friendly, relaxed and open.
And for the record, TO is well respected here (with good reason), and a cool guy. Youre dishing out a fair old hard time for a fella thats been here five minutes, I must say. Please show some more respect.
i agree with it all.
JHiggins, put yourself in Tim's position. working his ass off to make the music industry's tone awesome, and making every customer happy. then, there are other brands mentioned on his forum. he has every reason to delete the topic really. there was quite a lot of talk about the other brands on that topic, so it's only fair that it is gone.
also, why make such a big deal? you are clearly over reacting....... it's just one topic!!!! it's not as if it was the "Pics of BKPs in YOUR guitar" thread either!
just join in the discussion that i have been doing constantly for the last few months, and you'll love the forum as much as i do.
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Let it go, already.
Sorry, are you some kind of authority on this forum? You seem to like telling people what to do.
what difference does it make if he is or not?
you're being a smartass and a loudmouth. if you dont like it here, leave no one is forcing you to be here.. but you said goodbye already, so what are you doing here? usually you leave when you say bye, dont you? if you stick around with that kind of attitute, you dont leave yourself, you're shown the door and get a swift kick in the ass in the process.
calm down, be cool, contribute in other ways, rather than shite flinging on assumptions on, as to why certain things are as they are. take this as friendly advice
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Can someone lock this mofo topic, please?
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That's what the "!" is for. :)
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Can someone lock this mofo topic, please?
definitely. it's beginning to put a scar on the forum.
those damn forum noobs don't get it.
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Tim is top knotch in my book!!
I spoke with him through PMs on the board. This morning I phoned BKP. When they answered all I said was my name and they knew my name and why I was calling without me saying what I was calling for!
...and btw...it was Tim who answered the phone.
Tim has much respect from me!