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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: OD-Black_Fire on March 17, 2007, 01:48:08 AM

Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on March 17, 2007, 01:48:08 AM: I've been playing around with my B-52 AT-212 and I've found that I can get a pretty tight sound. Kinda, vintage tight, like Ride the Lightning tone.

But, over the years, I've developted a tone in my head and the tighter I make my amp sound the closer I get too it.

What amp (preamp, power amp, and cab setup) has the tightest, most focused bass around? Minimum flab, doesn't matter if its a 6, 7, or 8 string guitar. I'm not too focused on clean or overdrive sounds, my B-52 does those just fine.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: maliciousteve on March 17, 2007, 10:44:36 AM: Mesa Mark IV is probably the most tightest amp i've ever played through.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: QS-Nalle on March 17, 2007, 11:25:42 AM: Diezel VH4.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: MDV on March 17, 2007, 11:44:42 AM: I dont find mk IVs tight

Never payed a VH4, you could be right

Powerball is the tightest I've played thats coming to mind right now.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: maliciousteve on March 17, 2007, 12:27:45 PM: Quote from: MDV
I dont find mk IVs tight

Never payed a VH4, you could be right

Powerball is the tightest I've played thats coming to mind right now.

The thing with Mark IV's is that they react heavily to what cabinet is used, settings (even the tiniest of adjustments) and guitar/leads are used not to mention all the experimenting needed to get the right sound (though worth it in the end). Mark IV straight into a Marshall 1960 cab with Celestion V30's sounds amazing.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: MDV on March 17, 2007, 12:42:18 PM: Fair enough mate.

I played it through a mesa cab, if thats any help in assesment of the tightness scale.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: shaman on March 17, 2007, 03:29:45 PM: I own a mark IV-not a plug in and play amp-through an evm 12L 200 watt speaker, like found in thiele ported cabs, and proper settings(this takes patience!!!!just a little paaaaatience...)and you get tight!want one step beyond?shell out 3 grand for a boogie Mark IIc+-think early metallica/current petrucci
my IV can get tight/can also pull off clean headroom for country chickin pickin...can pull off classic tones as well(Zepp,ZZ..)thanks to simulclass....6l6 and el34's...you want it, you can get it for sure..seems to be 2nd most prized mesa amp behind IIc+-I have access to three of those, and they are incredible-if you didnt a/b the IIc and IV, however, it is hard to tell a difference--I snagged my IV for 1200, so that was the MAIN diff. for me
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: HTH AMPS on March 17, 2007, 03:45:05 PM: Quote from: QS-Nalle
Diezel VH4.

^ +1

The Bogner Uberschall was very tight in the bass end too.

For a total different type of solid bass end, I've found Randall amps to be very, very good in this respect - all depends on whether you like that tone.

:twisted:
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: dave_mc on March 17, 2007, 10:02:46 PM: Quote from: MDV
I dont find mk IVs tight

Never payed a VH4, you could be right

Powerball is the tightest I've played thats coming to mind right now.

+1 on powerball.

I haven't tried the mark IV, so bear that in mind.

I have tried a vh4, I'd say engl is tighter... though the herbert is probably the one you want to try if you're after metal from diezel ( i haven't tried it).

best bet is to try everything you can.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 17, 2007, 10:36:20 PM: The amp has less to do with it than your cabinet's construction, guitar's makeup, and your technique.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: BloodMountain on March 17, 2007, 10:38:02 PM: Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
The amp has less to do with it than your cabinet's construction, guitar's makeup, and your technique.

isn't it mainly your technique?
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 17, 2007, 10:38:32 PM: Engl E670? :>
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 18, 2007, 12:37:58 AM: Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
The amp has less to do with it than your cabinet's construction, guitar's makeup, and your technique.

isn't it mainly your technique?

Not necessarily, but it has a part in it. If you don't do heavy palm muting, you will get a lot of overhang from low notes. I think that the speaker cabinet is the part that determines how fast/tight or slow/flabby the bass will be.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: MDV on March 18, 2007, 01:23:00 AM: Cheers dave.

Wise words TO.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: Mavet on March 18, 2007, 02:49:27 PM: ENGL savage.
tight as hell...
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: dave_mc on March 18, 2007, 04:09:58 PM: Quote from: TwilightOdyssey

Not necessarily, but it has a part in it. If you don't do heavy palm muting, you will get a lot of overhang from low notes. I think that the speaker cabinet is the part that determines how fast/tight or slow/flabby the bass will be.

yeah, that too, lol. Any time I make any recommendation, I'm assuming that the guy (or girl)'s technique is up to the job.

definitely agreed about the cabs.

and cheers mark.
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Post by: the_bleeding on March 19, 2007, 04:54:12 AM: mesas are NOT TIGHT. They are not designed to be tight, and probably never will be, they do sound tight at bedroom levels but once you bring up the volume it all goes to spongy. Bogner Uberschall is decent, but thats a $%&#load of cash to dish out. Engl savage isnt as tight as the power ball ;)

my knowledge in order of crazy tightness

Engl Powerball (tightest you will ever get)
Engl Fireball (a powerball with half the wattage and less channels)
VHT Pitbull
Engl savage (i dont know if it should be before the pitbull though...)
peavey 5150
Engl SE

throw any of these on a VHT, mesa, or orange cabinet, and you'll have a tight ass monster.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: Prawnik on March 19, 2007, 01:08:56 PM: I have found VHTs to be tight, but I am just a tabbycat, what do I know?
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: mesfigas on March 19, 2007, 03:31:28 PM: i heard a VHT pitbull combo last week because i am searching for
a new amp.

i have a mesa boogie DC-5 right now

VHT is tight................mesa is not

Also the VHT has a fat warm drive.......
Mesa has only tons of gain that means that you can play only metal with my boogie ....nothing more.

Maybe VHT will be my next amp.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: shaman on March 19, 2007, 08:23:46 PM: the dc-5 is more of that spongy sound-night and day when compared to a mark series(not rectifier..) through the proper cab-mine sounds gooodntite running at high volumes but my cabs are ported and they have massive ev speakers- as always, play through one first-i believe you would be happy with the ones listed above
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: Daemon Barbeque on March 29, 2007, 01:38:44 PM: The Powerball is a tight sounding amp.It has lots of lows ,wich are well focused and not farting!
the Fireball is the best sounding ENGL IMHO ,and has more character tan the Powerball.
The Blackmore sig is just an amazing amp ,but tightness is not it's major strength.But not loose as Recto IMHO.
BTW ,VH4 is the tightest Rythm machine ever i heard.The speed picked Powerchords are really really clear ,and present!The Powerball is very close to that!
The Rockverb 50 was surprisingly tight too.But you need the dedicated cab for it!2x12's sound allways tighter for my ears.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: maliciousteve on March 29, 2007, 01:43:54 PM: Yeah I realised that the Powerball really is probably the tightest amp about. It f*cking roars like a beast too :lol:
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: Alex on March 29, 2007, 11:55:27 PM: Dunno... what happened to the JCM800 in this thread?
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: indysmith on March 30, 2007, 02:33:00 PM: Quote from: Alex
Dunno... what happened to the JCM800 in this thread?

JCM800 is not a tight amp imo
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: JoshuaLogan on April 05, 2007, 06:23:46 PM: Uberschalls are not tight. They are only supposed to be slightly tighter than rectos, and that's not saying much.

And the guy saying mesas aren't tight.... they were talking about the mark iv... which is not the same as the rectos at all. way tighter.
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: gwEm on April 05, 2007, 06:26:58 PM: Quote from: indysmith
Quote from: Alex
Dunno... what happened to the JCM800 in this thread?

JCM800 is not a tight amp imo

+1

in fact, the slightly loose feeling is what makes them cool - IMHO
Title: Tightest amp ever.
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 05, 2007, 06:32:03 PM: Played an ENGL Screamer today - WHAT A BEAST!!!

Tight as hell too.