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Title: 60s Blues Rock Guitar Lesson on YouTube
Post by: Elliot on March 17, 2007, 12:52:38 PM
Who is that dude?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPx3pUayCkA&mode=related&search=
Title: 60s Blues Rock Guitar Lesson on YouTube
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 17, 2007, 01:05:55 PM
Clapton...
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Post by: indysmith on March 17, 2007, 04:33:24 PM
LOL
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Post by: Philly Q on March 17, 2007, 06:38:06 PM
Brilliant, I've never seen that before.  That's the best look he ever had.  8)

First time I've seen him actually playing the Fool SG, too.
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Post by: Kilby on March 18, 2007, 01:25:23 AM
Damn you sir, I have just spent 3 hours watching cream vids because of that.

That should be a joyious thing but

1 : I can't hear Mr Bruce properly on any of them

2 : It's pointed out how much Erics tone changed (not for the better) when he stopped playing Gibsons

I whine too much I enjoyed myself really :)

Theres several vids featuring the Fool SG, and I think it looks best in the video link above where it gains a real nice purple tinge
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Post by: Tellboy on March 18, 2007, 09:57:21 AM
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2 : It's pointed out how much Erics tone changed (not for the better) when he stopped playing Gibsons



Yep....my friend and I went to see him at the Albert Hall when he was with Delany & Bonnie (just post Cream/Blind Faith) and he was playing a Strat through a Fender amp. I had been an ardent Clapton fan but remember coming out and turning to my friend and saying "Well that's it then - it''s all over." It wasn't just the tone - he seemed also to have lost his flair/agression which I don't think he has ever got back.
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Post by: Tellboy on March 18, 2007, 10:16:57 AM
I subsequently found this article which sums it up a lot better than I can.

http://twtd.bluemountains.net.au/cream/jeff/guitarist.htm

I think the author is being a little unkind to Strats ! ("cheap, unsophisticated guitar")
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Post by: _tom_ on March 18, 2007, 10:50:07 AM
I love his SG tone in that first video (until he rolls down the tone control). I just found some videos of him playing a strat on youtube, it still sounds good, but not as nice as the SG.

Watching that has made me realise how cr@p my vibrato is  :cry:
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Post by: DeanS on March 18, 2007, 12:05:38 PM
Whenever I watch these type of vids I can't help thinking of spinal tap...!
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Post by: dave_mc on March 18, 2007, 04:01:49 PM
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Whenever I watch these type of vids I can't help thinking of spinal tap...!


haha, +1

I like clapton... he was better in cream, but his tone on layla (strat, I believe) was great too.
Title: 60s Blues Rock Guitar Lesson on YouTube
Post by: Elliot on March 18, 2007, 08:14:05 PM
to be fair to the Stratocaster (niether Jimi nor Jeff Beck had a problem sounding mean on a strat) - EC changed his style pretty heavily from Bluesbreakers/Cream to Blind Faith and his solo stuff.  Objectively he probably became a better guitarist in the sense his composition became more sophisticated.  But that was the trouble - he went from angry Surrey boy playing Robert Johnson licks electrically to a millionaire coke head guitar hero.  In my view that was the change for the worse, not the guitar.
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Post by: dave_mc on March 18, 2007, 08:16:48 PM
^ yeah.

:drink:
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Post by: Kilby on March 19, 2007, 09:11:35 AM
It was that change that took place with Clapton no doubt, but that change coinsided with his change to Fenders.

Apparently some of the 'change' was to do with his manager insisting that he become a 'sosphisticated' musician with an air of mystery.

Since changing management, he has done the cream reunion gigs amongst other things. He seems to have gotten a little bit of enthusiasm together (at last).

Rob...
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Post by: 99_not_out on March 19, 2007, 01:16:52 PM
This all goes to explain why I can get the old Clapton tone off my SG, but can't get a modern Calpton tone! I always assumed he'd played Fenders all his career. Doh! :)
Title: 60s Blues Rock Guitar Lesson on YouTube
Post by: Kilby on March 19, 2007, 03:47:01 PM
Quote from: 99_not_out
This all goes to explain why I can get the old Clapton tone off my SG, but can't get a modern Calpton tone! I always assumed he'd played Fenders all his career. Doh! :)


Don't forget that he has the TBX midboost in his current guitars.
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Post by: Chicagoslim on March 19, 2007, 04:29:59 PM
Heard an interview with Clapton on U.S. radio recently and he was talking about being influenced by Delaney and Bonnie and the Tulsa sound.  Tulsa players are part of an ensemble, no star soloist, also led to his association with JJ Cale, all of which contributed to a change in his style as well as a change in his choice of guitar, the strat.  I've got to say that his strat tones sound pretty hot on the Cream reunion DVD.  I've been looking at strats lately and I believe if you want to make them wail, you need slightly hotter pickups.
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Post by: indysmith on March 19, 2007, 05:00:32 PM
Quote from: Tellboy
I subsequently found this article which sums it up a lot better than I can.

http://twtd.bluemountains.net.au/cream/jeff/guitarist.htm

I think the author is being a little unkind to Strats ! ("cheap, unsophisticated guitar")

I think that article is right in saying that a strat "can make one feel more loose, simple and uninhibited", but I don't agree that that is a negative thing. I play from the soul with a strat, moreso than with a les paul, and it kicks ass, even it is a little sloppier.
Maybe Ol' Clappy should write on his Fenders and play on his Gibsons?
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Post by: dave_mc on March 19, 2007, 06:05:50 PM
i thought gibsons were the sloppy guitars, and strats were less so? maybe that's LP's I'm thinking of, though.
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Post by: 99_not_out on March 20, 2007, 09:50:54 AM
Personally, and this may sound odd, I find the weight of the LP kind of makes me try to be more precise and clinical with my playing. Using a light weight guitar such as an SG or some Strat shaped guitars, I can sling the guitar about more as I play and tend to end up being sloppier with my style but putting more feeling into it as I enjoy playing it more.

Make sense? Or am i odd :)
Title: 60s Blues Rock Guitar Lesson on YouTube
Post by: broken cord on March 20, 2007, 03:18:01 PM
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I think that article is right in saying that a strat "can make one feel more loose, simple and uninhibited", but I don't agree that that is a negative thing. I play from the soul with a strat, moreso than with a les paul, and it kicks ass, even it is a little sloppier.
Maybe Ol' Clappy should write on his Fenders and play on his Gibsons?[/


+1 well said
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Post by: dave_mc on March 20, 2007, 04:26:18 PM
^ ^ makes sense.