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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: maliciousteve on March 22, 2007, 10:48:42 AM

Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: maliciousteve on March 22, 2007, 10:48:42 AM
Hey guys. I came across a good deal on a JCM800 2205. I wondered what you guys think of them? How do they sound and how do they compare to the more desireable 2203?
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 22, 2007, 12:21:08 PM
It is a very good amp. One thing to note about old Marshalls, however, especially on JCM800s:

The pcb on an 800 is not the best, and the way they are mounted, they start to warp over time. Plus, the power capacitors start drying up after about 15 years.

If the amp is local, I would have it checked by a qualified tech before buying.

My 800 needed to have the board and power supply caps replaced due to its age.

Sonically, it is as good as the 2203, and I sold mine for a fair amount of coin.
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: bucketshred on March 22, 2007, 01:03:54 PM
Do it.

Just got one of the JCM800 Reissues and it is a FANTASTIC amp, a little noisy but that doesn't matter - the tone, the tone!

Andy!
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: Tricalibur on March 22, 2007, 02:32:10 PM
yah the 'clean' clean channel will most liekly be cr@p but if your playin good old fashiopned rock that shoudlnt matter. You might wanna invest in a nice od pedal too tho if your interested in playing any kind of higher gain stuff on it.
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: Sekhmet on March 22, 2007, 04:30:50 PM
I have a 2205 atm, i just run a Fulltone fat boost through it and find it has plenty of distortion when cranked.

The clean channel isn't brilliant although now i have a coil tap on my neck pick up it tidys up quite nicely.

Great amp, i'd recomend it to anyone going for a more old school sound.
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: maliciousteve on March 22, 2007, 04:33:01 PM
that sounds cool guys. I love the sound of the Zakk Wylde 800 due to its 6550 valves, sounds fantastic with a boost. If I was to get it I have a pretty nice Keeley modded TS-9DX which I use with my Laney at the moment when I need something a little more crushing.

though I'm also considering getting a ENGL Powerball which is going for a very nice price. I'm torn between that, the Marshall, a Soldano Hot Rod and a JCM800 re-issue with 6550's.
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 22, 2007, 04:38:02 PM
All good amps. You should definitely listen to em all if you can.
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: shaman on March 22, 2007, 05:01:46 PM
if it is a noisy amp, get you a DECIMATOR noise gate-best I have seen yet!
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: Sekhmet on March 22, 2007, 05:31:31 PM
I think Ramstein used ENGL powerballs on their mutter album (although i could be wrong).

But Like TO said, all good amps, best if you can try them out befor you buy.
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on March 22, 2007, 07:17:45 PM
Steve I have a JCM 9800 2205

It is excellent once you get the hang of it
Clean channel isnt really clean like a Fender but its damn good sound

I run a BBE sonic maximiser in the FX loop and it does a good Zakk Wylde impression as a result

Will have it at the LGS next month too
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: psy on March 22, 2007, 09:49:56 PM
I've got the 2203.  I bought it off a mate about 6 years ago for £150.  It sounds good.  The volume knob is a bit crakley now though & I think the tubes need changing yet again.  Good amp though.
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: indysmith on March 22, 2007, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: psy
I've got the 2203.  I bought it off a mate about 6 years ago for £150.

HOOOOOLY HELL that's a damn good mate
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: psy on March 22, 2007, 10:05:32 PM
Yeah.  I don't really know what it was at the time.  I just thought.  yeah I'll have a Marshall like  8)

And the best bit was he let me pay for it over a couple of months £75 + £75.  So I hardly noticed paying at all.

Once I have some money I think I might find an amp tech to give it the once over.

Been using my 'back-up' amp Crate Powerblock at the last couple of gigs coz of the crackeling when I turn the volume knob.  You have to turn it just right to get the sound on.  Probably just need to replace the pot.
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: maliciousteve on March 23, 2007, 05:38:41 PM
Looks like i'm gonna go with the Powerball guys, I've heard alot of clips of the internet and I love the recorded sound, I've sat in front of one before and it almost knocked me over with it's low end and Kreator used them when I saw them and their tone was awesome so I think it may be the thing for me.  :D
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: HTH AMPS on March 23, 2007, 09:32:05 PM
Quote from: psy


Once I have some money I think I might find an amp tech to give it the once over.

Been using my 'back-up' amp Crate Powerblock at the last couple of gigs coz of the crackeling when I turn the volume knob.  You have to turn it just right to get the sound on.  Probably just need to replace the pot.


not wanting to spam you or anything, but I'm fairly local to you (Jarrow) and I know there are some total hack amp techs around - I know this since I've undone some of their work on old Marshalls.  Gimme a shout if/when you want some work done on that old Marshall - I love those things and know what makes 'em tick.

The pot will most likely just need some pot cleaner (please don't use WD-40).  I'd advise replacing the filter caps on that amp (it's getting on y'know) and installing a fresh set of valves - 6550s sound best in 2203s imo.

 :twisted:
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: maliciousteve on March 25, 2007, 12:08:00 PM
Well I just got the Powerball through the door this morning and my god is this thing a monster! There's so much low end it's unreal. It's pretty clear too, a bit fizzier than the Laney but I expected that with such a high gain amp but it's still cool. I'm happy  :D
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: Sekhmet on March 25, 2007, 01:23:43 PM
Awsome i look forward to hearing come clips :-)
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 25, 2007, 03:13:24 PM
I want one :(
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: keano on August 31, 2007, 01:28:09 AM
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lus, the power capacitors start drying up after about 15 years.


so how does this affect the amp? I have a old JMP 1978 and odd thing is it seems  :roll:  that is was more low endish and other times more trebly....
now it is always on trebly side??? My mind? Ears?
Title: Marshall jcm800 advice
Post by: JDC on August 31, 2007, 02:41:54 AM
the guitar shop near mine has a used hot rodded jcm 800 for £300, needs new tubes, I think it's the original version, it's oh so tempting!!! (used to be my dream amp when I was a n00b)

I think I'm gunna keep saving for my ENGL fireball though, still so tempting!!!