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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Mavet on March 23, 2007, 11:04:01 PM

Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Mavet on March 23, 2007, 11:04:01 PM
Just this one question:
Which pickup do you think will get me as close as possible to chuck's sound (on Death's Symbolic album) on a maple neck-thru guitar (aside from the obvious x2n)?

cheers
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 23, 2007, 11:36:01 PM
Miracle Man.

Edit: Actually what era of Death are you talking about?
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Mavet on March 24, 2007, 12:24:48 AM
^ Symbolic - sound of perserverance
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: ericsabbath on March 24, 2007, 03:34:10 AM
uh... painkiller  :?:
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 24, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
I still say Miracle Man.
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Mavet on March 24, 2007, 03:34:10 PM
Won't the MM have too little midrange?
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 24, 2007, 03:57:28 PM
Just turn up the mids on the amp :lol: X2N is for a more scooped tone, and that's what Chuck used.

Edit: you might even want to look at a Ceramic Warpig or Alnico Warpig.

Edit 2: http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1937&highlight=crystal+mountain

There's a clip of Crystal Mountain with a Warpig
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Mavet on March 25, 2007, 04:26:46 PM
Amazing sound!!! thanks man
Title: Re: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: The Emperor on March 27, 2007, 10:30:27 AM
Quote from: Mavet
Just this one question:
Which pickup do you think will get me as close as possible to chuck's sound (on Death's Symbolic album) on a maple neck-thru guitar (aside from the obvious x2n)?

cheers




 Bought a BKP yet ? :twisted:

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Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Mavet on March 27, 2007, 12:15:59 PM
^ Not a single one yet  :(  (nor a humbucker :wink: )
but I think I'm going for the warpig after hearing the link above...
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: The Emperor on March 27, 2007, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: Mavet
^ Not a single one yet  :(  (nor a humbucker :wink: )
but I think I'm going for the warpig after hearing the link above...




I´m a  fan of Death. I can get very close to Chucks tone with the MM...the MM have that roar to it and very metal kida pickup ...open and Organic just as the overall feeling on Symbolic. I can't speak for the Warpig though but clip is ok.

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http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=65749
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Mavet on March 27, 2007, 04:10:19 PM
^ Now, this poses a dilemma.
do you use a marshall valvestate, like chuck, to get your tone?
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: The Emperor on March 28, 2007, 01:27:00 PM
Quote from: Mavet
^ Now, this poses a dilemma.
do you use a marshall valvestate, like chuck, to get your tone?



No a Engl Savage 120. But i had a Valvestate 8008..something  in the past and i hated it! thin sounded boring cr@p.

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Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Mavet on March 28, 2007, 03:02:03 PM
I have your little brother, and you'll never see him alive...  MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

his name is ENGL Savage 60  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: The Emperor on March 29, 2007, 08:28:07 AM
Quote from: Mavet
I have your little brother, and you'll never see him alive...  MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

his name is ENGL Savage 60  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:



Sounds awesome!

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Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 29, 2007, 03:47:35 PM
You need any more help in choosing, or have you decided on the Warpig?

You could always get the best of both worlds and have a Ceramic Warpig! The standard Warpig has an Alnico V magnet, and the Miracle Man has a Ceramic magnet. Ceramic is for a tighter low end, more harmonics, Alnico V in the Warpig is for more grinding mids kinda thing (i think thats right!)

If it were me, i would go for a Ceramic Magnet pickup as the X2N is ceramic, i think i would go for the Miracle Man, but Ceramic Warpig will sound just as good just more bass because of the double row of screws on the pickup.
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Mavet on March 29, 2007, 07:09:05 PM
I still don't know  :?
I did not like most of the clips I've heard of the Miracle Man (lack of midrange) and Ceramic Warpig (too much bass).
I like the Alnico 5 sound pickups (Nailbomb and War pig) from the clips I heard, and that's one of the reasons I'm not going for the x2n righ away.
I also have a guitar equipped with two SD Invaders (ceramic magnet), which are OK, but there is something in it's midrane balance that is just wierd (too much low midrange and not enough high midrange I think).

in short, I think I'm going for the warpig but that may still change as I'm not going to buy it for another month or two...
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 29, 2007, 07:47:56 PM
I think you want a standard warpig! :twisted:
Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: The Emperor on April 03, 2007, 01:28:47 PM
Quote from: Mavet
I still don't know  :?
I did not like most of the clips I've heard of the Miracle Man (lack of midrange) and Ceramic Warpig (too much bass).
I like the Alnico 5 sound pickups (Nailbomb and War pig) from the clips I heard, and that's one of the reasons I'm not going for the x2n righ away.
I also have a guitar equipped with two SD Invaders (ceramic magnet), which are OK, but there is something in it's midrane balance that is just wierd (too much low midrange and not enough high midrange I think).

in short, I think I'm going for the warpig but that may still change as I'm not going to buy it for another month or two...




The MM is your pickup imo. I can't get closer to chucks sound. If anyone out there can.... which pickup except the X2N could that be? the Painkiller??.

 Maybe Tim could make a "Human" pickup   :twisted: ?

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Title: Chuck Shuldiner's sound
Post by: MDV on April 03, 2007, 07:45:41 PM
Out of what I have, ceramic warpig is closest, but I have a feeling from clips that the painkiller would be better.

Dakines were really helpfull here: he has some cwp/painkiller clips so I can hear the difference to mine quite well and eliminate the guitar and amp to a degree, and I think the additional mids of the PK will help a lot in getting chhucks sound.