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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: BloodMountain on March 24, 2007, 08:14:54 PM

Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: BloodMountain on March 24, 2007, 08:14:54 PM: yeah

i play speed death groove metal, and need new picks quick!

would Dunlop small stubbies (2mm guage) be good for this? i want to hit the strings fairly hard what playing heavy parts, and i know they have a smooth action for fast parts......

thanks for any help, BM
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: Neemo on March 24, 2007, 08:36:50 PM: I play rather fast metal and 2mm Big stubbies are the only picks I use. They have this great, solid feel. Like an extension of your arm.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: BloodMountain on March 24, 2007, 08:39:06 PM: Quote from: Neemo
I play rather fast metal and 2mm Big stubbies are the only picks I use. They have this great, solid feel. Like an extension of your arm.

thanks dude! i will go buy now. Big Stubbies look a bit big for my small fingers...... i'll try small stubbies first, then perhaps move up.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 25, 2007, 02:10:02 AM: Think they're both way too much for guitars personally.

Unless you're playing Zakk strings and need spades to move the strings.

I play .5mm ceramics atm, gets the speed of a thin pick, while being strong as a super thick pick.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: maliciousteve on March 25, 2007, 11:06:41 AM: Look into the Dunlop Jazz III picks too, they're amazing.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: samoth2 on March 25, 2007, 11:45:22 AM: Quote from: maliciousteve
Look into the Dunlop Jazz III picks too, they're amazing.

Yeah, they are awesome :D
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: BloodMountain on March 25, 2007, 11:54:41 AM: Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: maliciousteve
Look into the Dunlop Jazz III picks too, they're amazing.

Yeah, they are awesome :D

sounds like you love them....... maybe i should just buy some of them....... hey, experimenting is awesome!

hey NP, 0.5 is WAY too thin for me, i hit my strings like a bitch, and i need something that gives me huge attack. so yes, that spade analogy is exactly me, digging into my strings
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: Sekhmet on March 25, 2007, 01:22:39 PM: I found the jazz III's odd, i was wizzing up and down but it felt like i wasn't hitting anything, yet the notes was coming out, i figured it would be too much of a mind f*ck to use permanently as i'm usually inebriated :-P

I use the green Mansons picks, they're thinish but really sturdy, works for me.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 25, 2007, 03:14:08 PM: Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: maliciousteve
Look into the Dunlop Jazz III picks too, they're amazing.

Yeah, they are awesome :D

sounds like you love them....... maybe i should just buy some of them....... hey, experimenting is awesome!

hey NP, 0.5 is WAY too thin for me, i hit my strings like a bitch, and i need something that gives me huge attack. so yes, that spade analogy is exactly me, digging into my strings

Which is why I use Ceramics...
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: Kilby on March 25, 2007, 05:08:26 PM: Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN
hey NP, 0.5 is WAY too thin for me, i hit my strings like a bitch, and i need something that gives me huge attack. so yes, that spade analogy is exactly me, digging into my strings

I like these (the stainless steel ones)
http://www.fernandesguitars.com/picks.html

and these from Dunlop which are pretty cool if you use the notched section to play (heavy on the strings though) http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=32&pmh=products/picks

Rob...
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: Tarzan on March 25, 2007, 05:13:11 PM: I've always tried to stay away from metal picks, was that a bad idea?
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: Davey on March 25, 2007, 05:25:09 PM: fender celluloid heavy picks.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: BloodMountain on March 25, 2007, 05:28:25 PM: Quote from: Kilby
Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN
hey NP, 0.5 is WAY too thin for me, i hit my strings like a bitch, and i need something that gives me huge attack. so yes, that spade analogy is exactly me, digging into my strings

I like these (the stainless steel ones)
http://www.fernandesguitars.com/picks.html

and these from Dunlop which are pretty cool if you use the notched section to play (heavy on the strings though) http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=32&pmh=products/picks

Rob...

i might as well buy some, thanks! i will try as much as possible. i've never thought about them before, but now, all, i repeat ALL of mine have been worn down due to speed riffage. i was forced to re-file one of my picks to make it more pointy haha!

i will try 1 stainless steel one, and 12 Dunlop Ultex. anyone used Ultex? they look awesome, and very plain and simple.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: Kilby on March 25, 2007, 05:29:53 PM: Quote from: Tarzan
I've always tried to stay away from metal picks, was that a bad idea?

It's all personal taste, try them, if you like them use them, if you don't then find something else that works.

Brian May uses an old sixpence coins & Billy Gibbons uses Mexican pesos (they don't have serrations apparently).

I also had an unreasionable liking for the sharkfin picks in the 80s, but for the most part stick with the Dunlop Orange totrex these days.

Way back in time Clapton used to serrate the edge of his picks a little to get more attack, and apparently Dave Gilmour plays so hard he totally shreds a tortex pick within 2 songs.

As they say YMMV

Rob...

Edited becasue my spelling is absolutely cr@p !
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: BloodMountain on March 25, 2007, 05:42:53 PM: i've just bought 12 Ultex extra heavy off the Bay, so they should be here soon. i might buy some small stubbies too......
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: the_bleeding on March 25, 2007, 09:40:45 PM: i have a bunch of kinds of picks.

One made entirely out of silver... it tears the shite out of strings but the tone is insanely awesome... kinda makes a wierd scr@py sound though...

Pickboy .75-1mm... glossy, you hear the note and the note only, you dont hear the scr@pe of the pick against the strings, its quite amazing... super fast to play with too, they're my shredder picks. The one downside is that they are made of nylon and wear out fast.

Dunlop 1mm... tortex, makes the scr@py sound, but its SUPER durable, and is my practice pick because its the most difficult to play with. I practice with this puppy and use my pickboy's at gigs.

i have a few tortoise shell picks, they dont sound good, they dont flex right... i really dislike them. Perfect for accoustic guitar, not for electric, and im a strict electric player... My grandpa gave them to me and i've only used them when i was in a squeeze.

i have yet to try jazz III's...
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: MDV on March 26, 2007, 12:48:47 PM: Hell. Yes.

I just switched from ultex 1.0s to stubby 2.0s and 3.0s.

The increaase in precision and control in fantastic. If youre playing fast technical metal, these, or similar to your taste, will help you out no end!
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: BloodMountain on March 26, 2007, 12:59:28 PM: Quote from: MDV
Hell. Yes.

I just switched from ultex 1.0s to stubby 2.0s and 3.0s.

The increaase in precision and control in fantastic. If youre playing fast technical metal, these, or similar to your taste, will help you out no end!

oh well, i'll get some stubbies too :P
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on March 28, 2007, 05:26:25 PM: Ok, it may sound weird or totally Deranged
but i use 0.60,0.73, 0.91, 0.96, and 1.0 pickps
i use fender medium and fender heavy
dunlop medium and dunlop heavy(copy of that turtoise design fender guitar picks)

i have been experiemnting with guitar picks nowadays.. and each material , size and thickness influe teh way you pick it... and the sound you will get from it.
if the amp is smooth and you need to push it´s aggressiveness, then get a pick with a sharper material. like the :
i´m using these ones

http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=16&pmh=products/picks

http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=22&pmh=products/picks

http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=30&pmh=products/picks

http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=18&pmh=products/picks

i also have to mention somethign special
i do not use the normal arrow of the pick,i use the two rounded sides of it to attack the string.
I´m weird i now... i guess i´m an alien.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: Woogie on March 28, 2007, 05:56:04 PM: I use the rounded sides also. I find it much easier!
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on March 28, 2007, 06:17:56 PM: yah,and it has more Punchy
meatier TONE
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: BloodMountain on March 28, 2007, 07:05:25 PM: i never use that side..... it's not pointy enough.

thanks for the tips though, WFD... :twisted: :twisted:

EDIT: i got the Ultex extra heavy ones in the post yesterday, snd they are awesome! they're light, comfortable, VERY durable, and have a perfect attack on the string.
about the durability, i played the whole of Slayer Raining Blood, Creeping Death, Master Of Puppets, and a shiteload of my fastest riffs, and it came out with barely a scratch!
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: headtheball on March 28, 2007, 10:45:27 PM: 1 mm Stubby devotee, myself.

Rare as hen's teeth in Belfast, though, and I'm too lazy/careless to order large amounts of picks off the net.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: metal_god on March 29, 2007, 12:15:42 AM: haha i use the round sides too, i guess that makes 3 aliens :lol:
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on March 29, 2007, 03:12:05 AM: i´m curious to see a video of you all attacking the strings
Q:P
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: Muzzzz on March 29, 2007, 10:07:39 AM: Yeh, those 1mm Dunlop Tortex picks rock. I've currently got a big stash of Fender mediums and thicks, and while the thickness and bendyness is good, they're a cr@p shape, mediums are too pointy and thicks are too blunt. Next time I go pick shopping, it's be dunlop all the way.

Oh, and has anyone tried the sig Paul Gilbert Ibanez pick? It's really quite good...
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: maliciousteve on March 29, 2007, 10:14:24 AM: Quote from: Muzzzz
Yeh, those 1mm Dunlop Tortex picks rock. I've currently got a big stash of Fender mediums and thicks, and while the thickness and bendyness is good, they're a cr@p shape, mediums are too pointy and thicks are too blunt. Next time I go pick shopping, it's be dunlop all the way.

Oh, and has anyone tried the sig Paul Gilbert Ibanez pick? It's really quite good...

I always found the Paul Gilbert picks to be too easy to wear down. After about a week the pick was useless as it had worn down so much.
Title: Small stubbies for speed metal?
Post by: gingataff on March 29, 2007, 10:42:17 AM: Quote from: Muzzzz
Yeh, those 1mm Dunlop Tortex picks rock. I've currently got a big stash of Fender mediums and thicks, and while the thickness and bendyness is good, they're a cr@p shape, mediums are too pointy and thicks are too blunt. Next time I go pick shopping, it's be dunlop all the way.

Oh, and has anyone tried the sig Paul Gilbert Ibanez pick? It's really quite good...

I'm 90% sure he actually uses Dunlop tortex, the orange and yellow ones. I think the whole range of Ibanez picks is purely for promotion. Dunlop do the same, you know they are selling a Brian May pick and no it's not a replica sixpence, just a regular plastic pick with his name on. It's a bit like buying a t-shirt at a concert, the band don't actually wear them :wink: