Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on April 01, 2007, 06:56:46 PM
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I decided that my Laney needs a bit more oomph! More harmonics, more life. So i have decided to put an OD pedal in the mix for a good tone boost.
I was looking at the MXR Dist+, it looks like what i want, and should give me a good boost.
Is there anything else that people would recommend for this kind of tone?
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are you gonna be using the pedal to boost an already overdriven amp tone? if so then I would advise against the dist+, I'm not a fan of it's tone used in that way (goes farty/mushy).
the best pedal for the use you're suggesting is a plain old SD-1 or Tube Screamer.
:twisted:
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The MXR Dist+ is VERY similar to the DOD 250 Overdrive that I use. I'd have a hunt around and see which you can get cheapest. I got my DOD recently for £23 but they've sold out now :(
I use mine into a pretty clean amp though, so what HTH says above might be a consideration...
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The MXR Dist+ is VERY similar to the DOD 250 Overdrive that I use. I'd have a hunt around and see which you can get cheapest. I got my DOD recently for £23 but they've sold out now :(
I use mine into a pretty clean amp though, so what HTH says above might be a consideration...
I do like them into a clean/crunchy amp, but try boosting a 2203 Marshall with a dist+ and it looses focus in the bass end (imo).
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Randy Rhoads boosts his JMP 2203 with an MXR Distortion+
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I have a Boss Sd-1 SUper Overdrive,from 80´s
made in japan
i think i can part ways with it.
but it´s pretty scratched,cause i got it fromanother person.probably, he´s from 80´s, cause he has 56 years old etc
ahahahahahaha
JP
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here it is
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blatantly get an SD-1 for that kind of tone. Or if you prefer it a wee bit tighter, more midrange (and imo more processed sounding) go for a tubescreamer. Don't even consider anything else.
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if you only need a slight boost, clean boosts can be nice.
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Japanese OD-1 like Jake E Lee, MXR Zakk Wylde (modded SD-1, I own it), Tubescreamer TS808 would be my first choices.
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the mxr distortion plus is a distortion pedal and not an overdrive, instead of adding a gain stage or kicking your preamp section harder, it will actually change the sound.
i'm personally not a fan of boss pedals infront of the amp because they kinda eat tone...
I recommend the maxon OD 808, it can make poop sound good. In my eyes its the all-star overdrive.
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blatantly get an SD-1 for that kind of tone. Or if you prefer it a wee bit tighter, more midrange (and imo more processed sounding) go for a tubescreamer. Don't even consider anything else.
Summed it up.
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I use the SD-1 as well with my Marshall and a Bad Monkey with my 5150. Those combinations work better than vice versa.
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The bleeding is spot on, the Maxon 808 is absolutely blinding! Keeps your overall tone & add's that lovely harmonic overdrive that you'r looking for. Give them a try...I did & it cost me £125 :lol:
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Depending on what your budget is, I really like a Fulltone Fulldrive II into an overdriven amp.
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the mxr distortion plus is a distortion pedal and not an overdrive, instead of adding a gain stage or kicking your preamp section harder, it will actually change the sound.
i'm personally not a fan of boss pedals infront of the amp because they kinda eat tone...
I recommend the maxon OD 808, it can make poop sound good. In my eyes its the all-star overdrive.
I think the MXR Distortion+ can be used as a booster, I`ve tried it and it sounds good. Just put level on 100 and drive on 0 :D
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Randy Rhoads used his Dist + as a booster i believe. I can afford any pedal, though i would prefer it to be under £100.
I listened to clips of the Boss SD-1 on MusiciansFriend and it sounded awful, i mean really cr@p, and i have always hated the tone of Boss pedals. Maybe the MXR Zakk Wylde is the way to go, or a tubescreamer of some sort.
With the Dist+ i was planning to either take the gain down on my amp and use the DIst+ like that OR put the gain on practically nothing on the Dist+ and the Level to like 10 and use it into an overdriven amp.
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TS7 with a TS808 mod (available on ebay) are good budget options for TS808 clones - the JRC4558D op amp chip is the same and only two components need to be changed to bring it up to TS808 spec + it has an added distortion switch.
It doesnt have much snob value, but I couldn't hear any difference between a TS808 reissue and a modded TS7.
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Looks like the Maxon OD808 is very popular in here for what i want, i just listened to clips and it sounded great!
Got a question though, is it good use a general tone booster like the Maxon OD808, and then get another pedal for a solo boost or will it be too noisey or will i even need it?
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Cheapest way to do it = find a good solo tone with pedal & your guitar volume on full, then just back it off for rhythm.
Seymour duncans boosters quite good I hear
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Good idea, but surely that will rob me of some good tone?
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What will? Back the volume off? If it is then I'd suggest adding a capacitor, the guys on here would know a lot better than I. If you mean the SD booster then I didn't notice it when I heard one last, but that was a year ago & senile dementia is starting to set in :lol:
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I meant backing off the volume.
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BTW is it worth getting a clean boost thing instead.
I want my tone to stay the same but have more harmonics and just generally boosted if that is possible?
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to get the 80s lead sound you need to add a little gain aswell. A clean boost would be great for rhythm (unless yu want decent muted notes)
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Well i'm feeling fairly cheap at the moment and there have been a lot of recommendations for the SD-1 too. So i think i'll buy that since it is a classic 80's boosting pedal.
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Noo get the MXR Zakk, its basically a modified SD-1. I got it new for £50.
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Noo get the MXR Zakk, its basically a modified SD-1. I got it new for £50.
noisy though.
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BTW is it worth getting a clean boost thing instead.
I want my tone to stay the same but have more harmonics and just generally boosted if that is possible?
If you get a proper clean boost pedal and put it in the FX loop you will get more volume. Put it in front of an overdriven amp though, and it will drive the amp harder and result in more gain.
An SD1 wont do this, nor an 808 or ZW because they have a built in overdrive sound that imparts its tonal quality on the amp. However, they do also sound really good, so its a bit of a toss-up.
I had a clean boost and I've had the analogman modded SD1 (which switches into an 808 as well) and they are fairly different beasts. I dug the clean boost, but only into an already driven amp. It resulted in some really fat lead tones.
But on a relatively clean amp, it was no good. I preferred the clean boost into an overdriven Plexi, but the SD1 into a light gain JCM800.
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I've had the analogman modded SD1 (which switches into an 808 as well) and they are fairly different beasts.
i have it now....muahahaha
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Ok i am confused as to what to get now. The MXR, the Boss clean boost??!
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^ How about something that does clean boost AND overdrive, like this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/BradshawPedal.jpg)
Or this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/Twilight%20Drive/Top1.jpg)
(But you would have to get the HBE custom made for you)
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Get the MXR Zakk.
I use it through a Laney also and it sounds great!
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TO those look mightily fine and i would love one that does both!
How much are they?
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MXR micro amp.
Its just a clean boost. Place it in the FX loop, or somewher ein the chain and all it will do is make your guitar louder. PERFECT for solo boosts.
its also super cheap... i can get one in canada for 75$... so that would translate into about 30-40 quid at most.
the zakk wylde pedal is just a microamp with 2 more knobs and a logo on it. Adds alot to the pricetag... damn endorsements.
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£50 new isn't too bad in my books
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So by adding 2 pedals it won't get too noisey?
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No, aslong as you set the levels sensibly.
I think the micro amp is better for boosting a guitar signal through a long chain of pedals.
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So which was for which again?
The Micro amp is the clean boost for solos and the OD pedal is for the general tone that will be on all the time, right?
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You can use the OD to vary you tone more. You could put level on 100 and gain on 0 for tightening those lows. You can use it for a boost.
More versatile than a micro amp!
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Thing is i want to keep my sound pretty much the same, as i like it though just add more harmonics and for it to sound a little more boosted in general.
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MXR Zakk oozes harmonics.
Just turn level up and gain to 0
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Another option is the marshall bluesbreaker 2, that has clean boost and and crunch modes. Though the Buesbreaker 1 is better
It suits some amps better than others (I preferred it to the Tubescreamer through fender amps), especially through a dirty amp (it even improves the VAT I have lurking)
Best of all it's cheap
The Proco RAT calso works pretty well into a dirty amp
Rob...
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Cool, i use Marshall FX a lot i have a Jackhammer (which i don't use anymore, in fact it might even work for what i want it to do! ima go try i now :lol:) a Reflector reverb and a Supervibe chorus.
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jesus, how hard is it to just make the right choice and get an SD-1 or a modded SD-1 (zakk, keeley, analogman). To be honest, although i love my clean boost, i don't use it for any 80s rawk other than VERY early def lep, g'n'r, ACDC (more classic rock guitar sounds really).
The sd-1 will add some nice harmonic overdrive to your already overdriven sound and through your laney should be able to make any multitude of 80's rock guitar sounds!
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Sounds great, but then everyone else comes in and says something different! Though you have pretty much sold me by saying 80's so many times :lol:
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the other good thing about the sd-1 is you can really wind it up if you want and get more modern sounds aswell. With them so simple and cheap, i think every guitar player should definately have one. Never heard of anyone not liking their SD-1
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Well me likes cheap so looks like ima gunna have to buy it.
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Don't bother with the Marshall BB-2. Bunch of muddy pantsness on the gain setting.
Clean boost is OK if you only need that, but I'd probably go for something better if I were you.
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You got something in mind?
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Nope - I don't use a clean boost so can't recommend anything decent. Sorry.
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lol alright then. Still looks like the SD-1.
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Hey Joe,
in all fairness you are right when you say that everyone's coming in with different opinions and options, and each time you think that this one is the one and so on.
I've played and heard almost all the suggestions on this thread, and many others too, and here is the best advice I can offer you:
Get out and try as many as possible.
Some people like one thing, and others like another. And sometimes that flies against the face of what everyone else says.
So get out and try things when possible!
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Good advice there, i think my local has 2 or 3 of the pedals mentioned in this thread, though my amp is not there so it will sound completely different :(
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also try different types of pedal - not just clones of one type - also try pedals according to the settings you use on your amps as the amp setting often dictates how the pedal will sound.
Can I also check in the Award Session JD10 - buffer, booster, distortion, pre-amp DI box all in one - £80 with postage.