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Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Afghan Dave on April 03, 2007, 10:01:15 AM
I am getting so frustrated with my right hand speed limit on the palm mutes into chord stabs.

I just can't bust through the barrier to play "Bark At The Moon" at the correct performance speed.

I've been VERY diligent with the metronome and I just can't make "that jump"

I've plateaued.   :evil:

Has anybody been at the palm mute into chord roadblock and found an exercise / riff that helped kick the door down?

My alternate/tremolo picking is spot on but my palm mutes are letting my down badly.

Any suggestions will be welcomed  :?
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Crazy_Joe on April 03, 2007, 12:52:22 PM
In my experience if you just keep practicing it then you will get it right eventually, at first i didn't like it but now i can play it fine.

You could try doing the same riff except on on the low e string and just practice the palm muted rhythm bit instead of it all at once since that's what you are having the most problems with.
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on April 03, 2007, 01:42:11 PM
Davey and I were talking about that song a couple of days ago, and I remarked how difficult a tune it is to play!

I think I can help you out, dude. TABs, etc to follow ...
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Sekhmet on April 03, 2007, 01:49:58 PM
Just dilligence really, i find it with alot of things, you'l practise it for ages and not get any better, then just as your about to give up you suddenly get better.

Trying mixing things up a bit, work on down picking for a while then switch to legato, then come back and see if its got any better.

Just remember to stay relaxed, don't tense up your arm and also control your breathing (surprising how much of a difference it makes).
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: indysmith on April 03, 2007, 01:52:50 PM
what guage strings are you using? i have 11s on my ibanez and my les paul. i canplay it fine on my ibanez, but the LP has less string tension and i find it tricky on that
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Ratrod on April 03, 2007, 04:11:17 PM
Dump your girlfriend. Your right hand will be in shape in no time.  :wink:
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Davey on April 03, 2007, 04:14:59 PM
i'll look at it later this week.. my guitar learning is on hold at the moment, as i need to get better with insane gilbert-esque stretches hehe
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: dave_mc on April 03, 2007, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Davey and I were talking about that song a couple of days ago, and I remarked how difficult a tune it is to play!

I think I can help you out, dude. TABs, etc to follow ...


haha, i've been learning it recently too. the worst bit is that speed picked bit at the end of the solo in the middle of the piece. that's darn hard. jake e. lee = awesome.

i think practice is the only real way to do it, dave... i learnt it recently, so I was kind of already at the level where the riff wasn't really a problem (apart from the fast left-hand chord changes, lol, but that's not where you're having difficulties!), so I can't really give any specific pointers unfortunately. i guess just practice fast picking and palm-muting one note at first, with metronome, gradually upping the speed?

Quote from: indysmith
what guage strings are you using? i have 11s on my ibanez and my les paul. i canplay it fine on my ibanez, but the LP has less string tension and i find it tricky on that


While I agree more tension will probably help, practice will help too... I can play it fine with 9's (then again, I'm used to 9's)...

:drink:
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: gingataff on April 03, 2007, 05:32:57 PM
Hey, what's going on here??!!
I was learning the riff from BATM and trying to get a decent JEL tone from my Line6 yesterday. Is there some kind of mind control, going on?
Must...fret...using...thumb...
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/gingataff/guitarworld1986-11_10.jpg)
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Philly Q on April 03, 2007, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: gingataff
Must...fret...using...thumb...

Only if you've got dinky little hands like Mr Lee.

I would also love to be able to play BATM, but I'm too old, lazy and untalented to bother.  Not sure which is the greater, my laziness or my lack of talent.

Good luck to you all.  :)
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: shaman on April 03, 2007, 11:56:15 PM
i remember that appearing in Guitar World...all the unusual techniques of JAke E.-check out "suicide Solution" live on Utube-he does everything-he is one unorthodox dude,but my fave part of his playing is the AGRESSION-you can hear him ATTACKING the damn thing-RR really knocked me out with how he was able to inject that energy...raw...wicked,man
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on April 04, 2007, 12:33:22 AM
wont help with the playing but made me smile

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/FUNNIES/rubes2091641070403.gif)
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: gingataff on April 04, 2007, 02:39:19 AM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
wont help with the playing but made me smile

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/FUNNIES/rubes2091641070403.gif)

Were Toto on the bill? :roll:
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on April 04, 2007, 03:51:44 AM
^ Ouch! PDT_008
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Afghan Dave on April 04, 2007, 01:54:28 PM
Quote from: gingataff
Hey, what's going on here??!!
I was learning the riff from BATM and trying to get a decent JEL tone from my Line6 yesterday. Is there some kind of mind control, going on?
Must...fret...using...thumb...
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/gingataff/guitarworld1986-11_10.jpg)


 :lol: My hands are tiny but I could never get that technique down  :lol:

I guess I better nail this before the LGS as ALL of you are gonna smoke me so badly on the same song!

Only a few weeks left  :?  :twisted:  :wink:
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: gingataff on April 04, 2007, 02:30:06 PM
Does anyone have a good online tab of this track or one that can be emailed? I've only got the main riff and I'm not even sure that's been tabbed right (it says it's in in Eb but the original seems to be in standard tuning.)
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Davey on April 04, 2007, 02:40:40 PM
try 911tabs, they have a selection of website that have it, including powertab and guitar pro versions
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: dave_mc on April 04, 2007, 04:59:17 PM
i got one off ultimate guitar, seems not too bad. (meaning, i doubt it's 100%, but close enough to not really sound "wrong")
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Will on August 12, 2007, 03:35:42 PM
I would advise learning 'I don't know' intro first, should get you into it
buuut anyway, this is months old lol and I am just looking through past threads. I also have a tab that is right if anyone wants it scanned and emailed
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Woogie on August 12, 2007, 05:27:32 PM
Jake tabbed it properly for jakeelee.com and seeing as I am an all access member, I have access to it ;).

All hail Mr Lee
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Davey on August 12, 2007, 05:30:58 PM
come on man.. post it
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Will on August 12, 2007, 05:33:31 PM
SLC version :?:
don't get me excited for nothing
or remember my username for jakeeleel.com
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Woogie on August 12, 2007, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: Davey
come on man.. post it


Will do, I`m off to have a couple of currys first then I shall be back!!

I`m waiting on Jake for his Paranoid solo too, he takes ages to email.

Back soon!!
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Will on August 12, 2007, 05:57:53 PM
I was just looking for it, but realised I'm not all access.
Nice job there!
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Afghan Dave on August 12, 2007, 07:45:46 PM
Please, pretty please... could someone post it? PDT_001
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Bird on August 12, 2007, 07:53:11 PM
I've got a transcription in Guitar One 2003 (Frusciante on cover) I'll scan it and PM it.  :)
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Davey on August 12, 2007, 08:48:57 PM
Quote from: Afghan Dave
Please, pretty please... could someone post it? PDT_001

get the backing track and we do some recordin n stuff?
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Bird on August 12, 2007, 08:55:54 PM
I need a hotmail address to send this thing to, it's a 6 mb file
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: LazyNinja on August 12, 2007, 09:01:21 PM
Funny this got resurrected I was just learning this yesterday. Woogie can you send me one if you have an official tab?
Title: Bark @ the Moon - My right hand will not cooperate
Post by: Woogie on August 12, 2007, 09:03:55 PM
PM me your email addy if you want a copy of what I`ve got!!

Cheers