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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: hunter on April 06, 2007, 10:05:19 AM

Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: hunter on April 06, 2007, 10:05:19 AM
What do you guys think, single ended full tube combo with power soak and other great features at 299 EUR, this is agressive pricing, good for us  :twisted:

but will it be any good? What do you know/think about it? Anyone heard it yet?

http://www.musik-schmidt.de/osc-schmidt/catalog/peavey-windsor-studio-roehrencombo-p-21488.html?language=gb
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 06, 2007, 11:11:17 AM
based on the Valve King I tried, it will probably sound quite decent.  the weak point in budget combos is always the speakers - I'd figure in replacing the speaker with a G12H-30 or V30.

 :twisted:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on April 06, 2007, 03:42:06 PM
if it sounds anything like the windsor head, it'll be great for the price. as heavier says, speaker (and possibly cab construction) will probably be the weak link... should they bring out a head version (like a valve junior head type thing), that'd be even more awesome EDIT: specially if they throw £50 off!

I'm dying to try one, that's for sure. far as I know, it can take most octal power tubes too, so that could be cool as well.
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on April 06, 2007, 05:25:03 PM
Just curious: What do you need another amp for?
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: sambo on April 06, 2007, 05:57:19 PM
lol dont think he said anything about buying one if im not mistaken
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: hunter on April 06, 2007, 07:07:06 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Just curious: What do you need another amp for?


You start to sound like my girl friend, TO  :(
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 06, 2007, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Just curious: What do you need another amp for?


You start to sound like my girl friend, TO  :(


Hahahaha!

:D
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on April 06, 2007, 07:42:52 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Just curious: What do you need another amp for?


You start to sound like my girl friend, TO  :(


Hunter and TO sitting in a tree
S H R E D I N G
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 06, 2007, 07:57:01 PM
That how you spell Shredding? :p
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on April 06, 2007, 08:03:06 PM
No - but to put in the right number of D's stopped the rhyme sounding right
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: hunter on April 06, 2007, 08:04:50 PM
S H R E D I N G is like shredding, just slower ... that's what I do  :roll:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on April 06, 2007, 08:57:00 PM
lol at where this thread went since I left...

 :lol:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Kilby on April 06, 2007, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
No - but to put in the right number of D's stopped the rhyme sounding right


So are you are promoting the use of dropped D ?
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: BloodMountain on April 06, 2007, 09:11:10 PM
Quote from: Kilby
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
No - but to put in the right number of D's stopped the rhyme sounding right


So are you are promoting the use of dropped D ?

LOL!!!!  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on April 06, 2007, 09:21:15 PM
Quote from: Kilby
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
No - but to put in the right number of D's stopped the rhyme sounding right


So are you are promoting the use of dropped D ?

hahaha!
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on April 06, 2007, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: Kilby
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
No - but to put in the right number of D's stopped the rhyme sounding right


So are you are promoting the use of dropped D ?


Genius !!!

 :D
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on April 06, 2007, 10:24:52 PM
Back on subject - i like the look of the amp - a bit like a THD Univalve

I have wanted a single ended amp myself for a while- especially to be able to swap out power valve and hear the differences between them
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Kilby on April 06, 2007, 10:31:22 PM
Power soak, able to swap tubes easily.


At the price it would have to be a really bad amp to be a lemon

Plus class A amps are the way god intended amps to be  :roll:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on April 06, 2007, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Back on subject - i like the look of the amp - a bit like a THD Univalve

I have wanted a single ended amp myself for a while- especially to be able to swap out power valve and hear the differences between them


aye, i went with a valve junior for the single-ended thing, but no ability to swap tube types there unfortunately (at least without some pretty major mods). far as I'm concerned, the ability to switch power tube types almost makes the windsor combo worth it (as long as it doesn't sound like cr@p), if it sounds anything like the windsor head at all, that's a bonus. (EDIT: also, being single-ended means you won't have to faff about with biasing and the like which is handy)

I liked the thd flexi more than the bivalve (don't think i've been able to try the univalve), for some reason, i liked it for the ability to tube swap too. But this is a load cheaper (like a grand cheaper!)...

My only concern is, if it's anything like the windsor head, maybe it's a little too high gain to get the full value of tube swapping when it comes to tone (i.e. most of the tone and gain are designed to come from the pre-amp)? and the cleans on the windsor head were pretty rubbish (not that that really matters, but it kind of means you can't judge how cleans sound with loads of different power tubes...)

but i remember when it was released in the states, it was like $400, i remember thinking, "that's great, but I bet it's going to be closer to £400 over here... :(". Now that it's not, that is an extremely intriguing prospect.

what are the odds they don't turn up in northern ireland for about 5 years?

:lol:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Kilby on April 06, 2007, 11:20:16 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
what are the odds they don't turn up in northern ireland for about 5 years?

:lol:


Try Bairds on York Street as they have been very loyal Peavey dealers since the 70s

Oh yeah I noticed this in the Peavey site specs which I didn't previously notice

Transformer balanced XLR Recording Output w/passive mic simulator
XLR Ground Lift switch
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on April 06, 2007, 11:28:56 PM
^ yeah, i noticed they had a windsor head in last time I was there... that'll be my first port of call, failing that music maker in dublin normally has some peavey stuff, I might check that out next time I'm down there too.

cool it has the recording stuff, doesn't really worry me either way, i guess you might as well have it... as long as they haven't cut corners on the actual amp to be able to include those features in the price...

:drink:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Kilby on April 06, 2007, 11:36:18 PM
Quote from: dave_mc

cool it has the recording stuff, doesn't really worry me either way, i guess you might as well have it... as long as they haven't cut corners on the actual amp to be able to include those features in the price...

:drink:


Thats always the worry, I see that they also included the boost switch too.

Almost looks like they have been wathing what Matamp are doing ;)
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on April 07, 2007, 04:16:28 PM
^ aye. i have to get to try some matamps somewhere... as it is living in this god-forsaken place it'd cost me more to get to try a matamp than to actually take a chance and just buy one.

 :evil:  :lol:

:drink:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Hell Hound on April 20, 2007, 03:59:26 PM
I'm buying one of these this WE, I'll report back when I'll get it. I already planned some mods : Change the horrible peavey speaker by a lighter and better Celestion Century Vintage , some low gain 12ax7/ay7 to make it as clean as possible, and certainly a 6550EH power tube :)
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: sgmypod on April 20, 2007, 05:41:15 PM
http://www.thomann.de/gb/peavey_windsor_head_212_bundle.htm

how about this bundle
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: hunter on April 20, 2007, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: sgmypod
http://www.thomann.de/gb/peavey_windsor_head_212_bundle.htm

how about this bundle


Nice EUR price, think iron maiden  :twisted:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Hell Hound on April 20, 2007, 11:42:46 PM
The head is too powerfull, no power soak, too heavy, too big and is class AB. I think the combo isn't going to sound anything like the head, smaller, lighter (even lighter with a  change of speaker), far more diverse in the sound departement by just changing the output tube.
All in all, the head does nothing for me, the combo is just what I was waiting for in a LONG time :)
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: hunter on April 21, 2007, 04:51:46 AM
Quote from: Hell Hound

All in all, the head does nothing for me, the combo is just what I was waiting for in a LONG time :)


Feature wise agree! I can't wait to hear your clips to see whether it keeps up the standard in the sound department, but I am quite confident it will.
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: apmaman on April 21, 2007, 11:04:25 AM
http://www.gearwire.com/peavey-windsor-wnamm.html

Video of the combo.


Anyone heard about Kranks new 20w all tube Microstack? Cant find any videos or clips of it but it sounds intresting.
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: hunter on April 21, 2007, 12:22:57 PM
Quote from: apmaman
http://www.gearwire.com/peavey-windsor-wnamm.html

Video of the combo.


Haha, that sounds pretty damn bad I'd say  :(
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: sgmypod on April 21, 2007, 02:52:54 PM
http://www.guitars.co.uk/acatalog/Peavey_Windsor_Studio.html £189
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on April 21, 2007, 03:55:28 PM
^ if that comes down much more, to me anyway, it'd nearly be worth chancing even if i don't get to try it. based on the fact that i liked the head (and i realise on paper they're quite a bit different).
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Adam.M on April 21, 2007, 05:17:47 PM
Gear wire could make anything sound bad... i don't trust their video's anymore after their peavey valve king one.
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: apmaman on April 21, 2007, 05:34:19 PM
Quote from: Adam.M
Gear wire could make anything sound bad... i don't trust their video's anymore after their peavey valve king one.


the guy does make a fair amount of sloppy mistakes when he's playing. Hopefully more will appear soon!
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Hell Hound on April 23, 2007, 11:18:15 AM
I ordered one with an EH LPB-1 (OD/Boost) and an XLR cable to record it :lol: A Celestion Century Vintage is also on the way, as it'll be lighter with it and hopefully sounds even better :D
I should have it by the end of the week.
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on April 23, 2007, 03:50:23 PM
^ah, cool, be sure to let us know what it's like!
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: hunter on May 25, 2007, 05:43:06 AM
Quote from: Hell Hound
I ordered one with an EH LPB-1 (OD/Boost) and an XLR cable to record it :lol: A Celestion Century Vintage is also on the way, as it'll be lighter with it and hopefully sounds even better :D
I should have it by the end of the week.


Has the amp arrived yet? What's it sound like? Review and/or Clips?
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Mr Ed on May 25, 2007, 08:57:48 AM
Looks a great amp for a great price.
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on May 25, 2007, 12:39:51 PM
^ ^ i heard that the release date was put back until september, but that's hearsay (from someone on another forum who emailed peavey to ask).
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Hell Hound on June 12, 2007, 02:19:21 PM
The store lied to me 2 times about the delivry date (you know like :" We'll have them on monday, no problem", on monday nothing, "We'll have those in 2 weeks, no problem" and so on...) so I canceled my order. The last rumour I eard about was they're to be released mid-jun so we'll see :)
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on June 13, 2007, 05:32:14 PM
^ i emailed peavey's european site a few days ago, apparently it won't be out in europe till the third quarter of the year.
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Hell Hound on June 14, 2007, 12:33:32 PM
Damn  :?
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on June 14, 2007, 04:09:52 PM
did i say third quarter? I meant final quarter.  :oops:

double damn.

 :lol:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: hunter on June 14, 2007, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
did i say third quarter? I meant final quarter.  :oops:

double damn.

 :lol:


I prefer No Quarter  :oops:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: sgmypod on June 14, 2007, 07:11:50 PM
the heads are in stores tried one the other week
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: dave_mc on June 15, 2007, 02:42:14 PM
^ yeah, they've been out for ages. The combo is a whole different kettle of fish though, the ability to change output tubes, etc. I'd like to try one, at least.

^ ^ :lol:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: sgmypod on January 20, 2008, 11:48:44 PM
anyone got one yet?
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Hell Hound on January 21, 2008, 10:06:28 AM
Still nothing in store, this thing is a freakin year late :lol:
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: badgermark on January 21, 2008, 11:36:25 AM
Heard reports that they are pretty cr@ppy. Someone was saying the clean tone is almost non-existent and well worth avoiding...
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Henk on January 21, 2008, 12:03:11 PM
Probably they will have a really cr@ppy speaker and the cheapest tubes available, but i cant imagine a simple tube amp like this can be really bad apart from that.
Title: Peavey Windsor Studio - 299€ - a steal or a lemon?
Post by: Scotty477 on January 21, 2008, 12:53:44 PM
Quote from: badgermark
Heard reports that they are pretty cr@ppy. Someone was saying the clean tone is almost non-existent and well worth avoiding...


I'd heard this as well.

To get a clean tone you need to reverse the preamp and master settings and even then it doesn't give a true clean sound but tends to break very easily.

My search for a small tube amp for recording in the house continues ...  :cry: