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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: HTH AMPS on April 07, 2007, 06:50:53 PM

Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 07, 2007, 06:50:53 PM
finally got my Explorer all tarted up with the hardware I like, looks purdy eh? still undecided about the black pickup rings though, think I'll have some creme ones on there and see how it looks.

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2213/korinaexplorer1ih5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

the 'death metal' pedal is surprisingly good though limited to that one thing - not bad for £36.

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8742/korinaexplorer2ru6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

the bridge pickup is a Nailbomb and the neck pickup is a SD '59.  Will be putting a NB neck p/up in there soon as funds allow.

the NB just loves distortion - begs you to heap on as much gain as you dare and still stays focused but is still a very natural guitar tone (not forced)

 :twisted:
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: 808 on April 07, 2007, 07:08:23 PM
SWEET!


I like the black pup rings. They bring out the pups making them easier to see!
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 07, 2007, 07:19:14 PM
Love it! :D
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on April 07, 2007, 08:10:41 PM
There is an exactly copy of that explorer here in brazil for sale.... oosp, the only problem is that its“not an explorer, but a FLYING V epiphone korina gold.
And the guy don“t want to trade it with me for a ibanez rg 570
ah theres an explorer too
same colour, wood/model
Q:(
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: Crazy_Joe on April 07, 2007, 08:23:38 PM
Keep the black pickup rings!

I tried a digitech death metal once and it was surprisingly good for a budget distortion stomp box, much better than boss!
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: CJ on April 07, 2007, 08:34:25 PM
i actually think white pickup rings would look better..
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: LazyNinja on April 07, 2007, 09:12:33 PM
I'd keep the pickup rings but change the pickguard to black  :twisted: I love black on natural.
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: dave_mc on April 07, 2007, 10:40:10 PM
natural explorers are really nice- awesome!

the decimator is a nice piece of kit too.
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: BloodMountain on April 07, 2007, 10:40:26 PM
keep everything the same. looks killer, and yes, the pup rings accent the pickups  :twisted:

could you describe that pedal's (digitech DM) tone? also, could you tell me if you could turn the gain down and use it as a boost in front of an amp?

thanks dude, sexxxy setup!
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: the_bleeding on April 07, 2007, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN
keep everything the same. looks killer, and yes, the pup rings accent the pickups  :twisted:

could you describe that pedal's (digitech DM) tone? also, could you tell me if you could turn the gain down and use it as a boost in front of an amp?

thanks dude, sexxxy setup!



i have one, there is no gain knob.  The gain is permanently set to 11.5  Its $%&#ing rediculous.  All you have is volume, and an EQ... i find it has a very scooped sound, sterile lows, sterile mids, and hissing highs.  I could make a PERFECT dying fetus sound with it though... heh I find that the gain is very buzzy grindy styles, very interesting tone... sounds GREAT when you downtune, not so much in standard tuning.
i'm addicted to valve crunch so i dont like mine anymore...
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 07, 2007, 11:27:00 PM
Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN
keep everything the same. looks killer, and yes, the pup rings accent the pickups  :twisted:

could you describe that pedal's (digitech DM) tone? also, could you tell me if you could turn the gain down and use it as a boost in front of an amp?

thanks dude, sexxxy setup!


the pedal reminds me of some of the bands I grew up on like Carcass & Napalm Death.  it does have a naturally scooped tone but it's still ballsy - depends on how you have the amp set.  it's a one trick pony, but it IS called 'death metal' so it's unlikely to do 'booster' duties or have much 'valve crunch' - not what it's designed to do.

I'm using this whole rig with the Explorer in D or C depending on my mood.  It nails the sound I was after, but then again - I WANTED that grindcore/death-metal tone from the 80s that was all over those Earache records albums, most people probably don't (heh).

 :twisted:
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: willo on April 07, 2007, 11:41:41 PM
Sweet!

Only one pedal and you have to use an ISP? You must be running some crazy gain  :D
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 08, 2007, 12:41:54 AM
Quote from: willo
Sweet!

Only one pedal and you have to use an ISP? You must be running some crazy gain  :D


this one goes to eleven  :lol:
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on April 08, 2007, 01:36:05 AM
Where's the amp??
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: indysmith on April 08, 2007, 11:03:22 AM
http://www.digitech.com/flash/DeathMetal.htm

Digitech Death Metal demos


totally off topic - but what do you guys think is a better metal pedal; the digitech death metal or the line6 uber metal? Been looking for something HEAVY AS HELL for use with my ibanez (+Nailbomb) and 100W peavey poweramp. (looking for pure death metal tones kinda like WFD's 5150 clips)
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: Pierre on April 08, 2007, 01:04:12 PM
The Uber Metal is a great distortion. It eats batteries for breakfast though. And I mean this, if you play at night the battery will be dead for breakfast.
I couldn't find a sound I liked from it, but it's a real good one.

I thought the Death Metal was absolutely horrible and annoying sounding in comparison :P You may want to try the Uber Metal.

But neither pedals are really organic or natural sounding.
It's a bit useless having a BK and then playing through those pedals I'd say. I mean obviously it's better than a Powersound on those cheap Ibanez... but you're ruining the pup a bit.
If I were you I'd save up some more and get some real cool like a Vox Bulldog or a Radial Hot British. Or a valve amp with a distortion channel ;)

Though all this may just be me :)
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 08, 2007, 01:22:58 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Where's the amp??


out of shot (heh), it's a '76 Superbass 100w head.

 :twisted:
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: Crazy_Joe on April 08, 2007, 02:55:52 PM
Quote from: Pierre
The Uber Metal is a great distortion. It eats batteries for breakfast though. And I mean this, if you play at night the battery will be dead for breakfast.
I couldn't find a sound I liked from it, but it's a real good one.

I thought the Death Metal was absolutely horrible and annoying sounding in comparison :P You may want to try the Uber Metal.

But neither pedals are really organic or natural sounding.
It's a bit useless having a BK and then playing through those pedals I'd say. I mean obviously it's better than a Powersound on those cheap Ibanez... but you're ruining the pup a bit.
If I were you I'd save up some more and get some real cool like a Vox Bulldog or a Radial Hot British. Or a valve amp with a distortion channel ;)

Though all this may just be me :)


The uber metal is pure shite. I had one and all it gave me was gay line 6 nu metal distortions.
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: Pierre on April 08, 2007, 03:04:20 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
Quote from: Pierre
The Uber Metal is a great distortion. It eats batteries for breakfast though. And I mean this, if you play at night the battery will be dead for breakfast.
I couldn't find a sound I liked from it, but it's a real good one.

I thought the Death Metal was absolutely horrible and annoying sounding in comparison :P You may want to try the Uber Metal.

But neither pedals are really organic or natural sounding.
It's a bit useless having a BK and then playing through those pedals I'd say. I mean obviously it's better than a Powersound on those cheap Ibanez... but you're ruining the pup a bit.
If I were you I'd save up some more and get some real cool like a Vox Bulldog or a Radial Hot British. Or a valve amp with a distortion channel ;)

Though all this may just be me :)


The uber metal is pure shitee. I had one and all it gave me was gay line 6 nu metal distortions.


Hehe exactly what I thought of the Death Metal or Boss MT2 myself. The Uber Metal almost felt right compare to these two. But still not organic enough for me. It's VERY modern sounding and yes, you can make it very nu metal. I boosted my mids myself though so it didn't sound anything like Nu Metal, sorry to disapoint you ;) There are many ways to set it up.
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: indysmith on April 08, 2007, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: Pierre
The Uber Metal is a great distortion. It eats batteries for breakfast though. And I mean this, if you play at night the battery will be dead for breakfast.
I couldn't find a sound I liked from it, but it's a real good one.

I thought the Death Metal was absolutely horrible and annoying sounding in comparison :P You may want to try the Uber Metal.

But neither pedals are really organic or natural sounding.
It's a bit useless having a BK and then playing through those pedals I'd say. I mean obviously it's better than a Powersound on those cheap Ibanez... but you're ruining the pup a bit.
If I were you I'd save up some more and get some real cool like a Vox Bulldog or a Radial Hot British. Or a valve amp with a distortion channel ;)

Though all this may just be me :)

i have multiple valve amps.I'm not looking for something "organic and natural sounding", hence why i'm looking at cheap stupidly high gain solid state distortion boxes :P i just want something that will sound like death. my mesa's very bluesy and my marshall's very rocky and my matamp's very clean (and organic and natural), i want something really cheap'n'cheerful for the VERY little death metal i play.
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: Pierre on April 08, 2007, 04:22:21 PM
Well then the Uber Metal should be just right your alley :)
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: indysmith on April 08, 2007, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: Pierre
Well then the Uber Metal should be just right your alley :)

sweet. thanks man
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Post by: gorath23 on April 08, 2007, 04:36:27 PM
Nope you're all wrong  :P  The 'old-skool' pedal to have for 80's/90's DM is the Boss HM-2 Heavy Metal, loads of bands were using this back in the day. Really cheap off Ebay too.
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: indysmith on April 08, 2007, 04:37:35 PM
Quote from: gorath23
Nope you're all wrong  :P  The 'old-skool' pedal to have for 80's/90's DM is the Boss HM-2 Heavy Metal, loads of bands were using this back in the day. Really cheap off Ebay too.

i've heard nothing but bad things about it though... keeley one looks good but it's expensive
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: Crazy_Joe on April 08, 2007, 04:41:01 PM
Not to be awkward but i think the Digitech will be better for Death :lol:
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: indysmith on April 08, 2007, 04:41:50 PM
bar-stewards...¬¬ *goes cross-eyed and falls over*

I thought this was gonna be a real quick decision, lol. Looks like i'm gonna have to do some more research...
http://www.digitech.com/products/xseriesflash/MetalMaster.html
the tour of hell setting on here sounds cool 8) the rest is yuck though
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: Crazy_Joe on April 08, 2007, 05:56:42 PM
For high gain death metal the Digitech Death Metal leads the way, such a good pedal for death metal, hence the name :lol: You can get it in my local shop for £45! Theres no point spending another 20 or so quid on something that you aren't really going to use, there isn't much difference in them anyways.
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 08, 2007, 07:26:35 PM
I've got all the organic valve overdrive I want... '76 Superbass, 60's Laney Supergroup, AC20 (homebrew), 3x Simms Watts heads, '63/43 copper panel AC30, Fender Tweed Deluxe (5E3 homebrew).  The last thing I need is more organic overdrive, I bought the Death Metal pedal specifically for masses of mental gain and that oldschool buzzsaw tone.

I got mine off ebay for £36, ended up as £41 by the time postage was figured in.  Digitech also do a distortion pedal called the Distortion Factory, that'll do a wider range of overdrives/distortions... http://www.digitech.com/products/DF7/DF7.htm



 :twisted:
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: the_bleeding on April 08, 2007, 08:37:59 PM
heres my rule: avoid pedals with "metal" in the name


i have an hm-2, and it sucks... no wonder it only cost me 12$... very nasally and smooth... no crunch that i like.  Listen to a celtic frost album, thats straight up hm-2 tone.  Its fun to put into a lightly overdriven tube amp though... that can get you chainsaw grind a la dismember... i'll post a clip

Personally, for the deth metallzlzz tone, i'd plug a tube screamer into a mesa v-twin... or just use a straight up engl preamp


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=686797
clip details:
eastwood GP bridge pickup (super 2), tone knob set to 0, volume to 10
--> hm 2 (volume dimed, gain layed off a bit... dont remember EQ)
--> marshall 6100 LM crunch channel, VERY sparing on the amp gain.
--> line 6 spider II cab
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 09, 2007, 01:09:55 AM
Quote from: the_bleeding
heres my rule: avoid pedals with "metal" in the name


i have an hm-2, and it sucks... no wonder it only cost me 12$... very nasally and smooth... no crunch that i like.  Listen to a celtic frost album, thats straight up hm-2 tone.  Its fun to put into a lightly overdriven tube amp though... that can get you chainsaw grind a la dismember... i'll post a clip

Personally, for the deth metallzlzz tone, i'd plug a tube screamer into a mesa v-twin... or just use a straight up engl preamp


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=686797
clip details:
eastwood GP bridge pickup (super 2), tone knob set to 0, volume to 10
--> hm 2 (volume dimed, gain layed off a bit... dont remember EQ)
--> marshall 6100 LM crunch channel, VERY sparing on the amp gain.
--> line 6 spider II cab


y'see, I actually LIKE Celtic Frost.

 :twisted:
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: Crazy_Joe on April 10, 2007, 02:42:58 PM
Yeah what's wrong with Celtic Frost?! :lol:
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on April 10, 2007, 03:20:56 PM
i like the first two albuns/ep
Emperor“s return and Morbid tales.
Q:p
Not the new stuff. to slow for my tastes.
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: Crazy_Joe on April 10, 2007, 04:21:09 PM
Yeah new stuff isn't thrash anymore :(
Title: my new Explorer / metal rig (pictures)...
Post by: the_bleeding on April 10, 2007, 05:41:00 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
Yeah what's wrong with Celtic Frost?! :lol:


i just dont like their guitar tone... it doesnt sound heavy in my ears.

listen to my soundclip though!  :roll: